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Post by wavey. on Jan 12, 2010 0:51:33 GMT -5
They're not dissapointing. Shes going to be Gold with 500k already and still in the Top 20. Chilll.
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Post by WouldYouJumpTheGDTrainAlready? on Jan 12, 2010 9:18:24 GMT -5
I dont care what everyone says Rihannas numbers are disappointing. She will struggle to sell 1.2 mill in the states. Beyonce and Britney were already at a million this time last year. Maybe a Grammy perfomance could renew intrest? It's going to take a herculean RiRirerelease for her to cross a milli. |
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Post by Black Jesus on Jan 12, 2010 10:13:47 GMT -5
I dont care what everyone says Rihannas numbers are disappointing. She will struggle to sell 1.2 mill in the states. Beyonce and Britney were already at a million this time last year. Maybe a Grammy perfomance could renew intrest? Her performance at the AMAs was a disaster so I don't know if thats a good idea. I think just giving the album time will be best. Look at Clarkson, she's had 3 top 10 singles for AIEW and her album is still at 800k |
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jan 12, 2010 11:45:50 GMT -5
Billboard is the only thing that matters. They said Kesha will be #1 and that's what it will be.
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Post by KingB on Jan 12, 2010 12:08:50 GMT -5
exactly HITS just playing guessing games
soundscan >>>
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Post by as485y on Jan 12, 2010 12:13:23 GMT -5
I dont care what everyone says Rihannas numbers are disappointing. She will struggle to sell 1.2 mill in the states. Beyonce and Britney were already at a million this time last year. Maybe a Grammy perfomance could renew intrest? Her performance at the AMAs was a disaster so I don't know if thats a good idea. I think just giving the album time will be best. Look at Clarkson, she's had 3 top 10 singles for AIEW and her album is still at 800k And thats where I see Rated Retarded hitting 800k.... who hits a mill without a big single unless your a legend? |
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Post by StarSprinkles on Jan 12, 2010 12:21:48 GMT -5
David Cook sold 1.25 million of his debut without a pop hit at all. "Light On" peaked at #20 on Pop.
SuBo has sold 3 million without a hit either.
Michael Buble has sold millions of albums without ever having a hit.
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Post by neverduplicated on Jan 12, 2010 12:22:47 GMT -5
Her performance at the AMAs was a disaster so I don't know if thats a good idea. I think just giving the album time will be best. Look at Clarkson, she's had 3 top 10 singles for AIEW and her album is still at 800k And thats where I see Rated Retarded hitting 800k.... who hits a mill without a big single unless your a legend? 1) Hard is becoming a pretty big single. 2) Susan Boyle. |
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Post by KingB on Jan 12, 2010 12:26:34 GMT -5
Hard is not going to help her push another 500K
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2010 12:31:25 GMT -5
exactly HITS just playing guessing games soundscan >>> LOL HITS is a "guessing game"? HITS Tuesday chart is a measurement of overall sales, so is Soundscan. Neither are 100% accurate We call it a "guessing game" because their software rolls out the numbers in pieces over two days & people that post here take the Monday results way too seriously |
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Post by as485y on Jan 12, 2010 12:41:04 GMT -5
Hard is not going to help her push another 500K esp when it cant even go Top 10 on iTunes and I forgot about Susan Boyle.. David Cook did surprisingly well! and Buble has an amazing fan base anyone else in POP world done it? |
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Post by StarSprinkles on Jan 12, 2010 12:51:27 GMT -5
Clay Aiken sold 2.8 million of his debut, and "Invisible" peaked at #17 on pop.
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Post by as485y on Jan 12, 2010 12:56:15 GMT -5
^ wow
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jan 12, 2010 13:32:51 GMT -5
Look at Clarkson, she's had 3 top 10 singles for AIEW and her album is still at 800k The key part to remember here is that her second single was a failure digitally; it may have had a good peak on Chr/Pop (though a very fast rise/fall) but it was never a hit with the buying public, thus didn't help the album sell at all. As long as Rihanna's next single is a hit both on radio and digital outlets her album sales should remain fairly consistent. With a string of hits, I see no reason why Rated R couldn't sell one million units at this point. |
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Post by KingB on Jan 12, 2010 13:45:48 GMT -5
it couldn´t sell during the holiday season with all the discounts and promo ..alicia hasn´t had a big hit and she will cross a million easily ..
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jan 12, 2010 14:26:41 GMT -5
it couldn´t sell during the holiday season with all the discounts and promo ..alicia hasn´t had a big hit and she will cross a million easily .. You're comparing apples to oranges (which isn't surprising considering I see it all the time here). Unlike Alicia, Rihanna has never been a huge album seller. In fact, speaking strictly figures, this is one of Rihanna's most successful albums; it garnered her the biggest opening week of her career (in regard to albums) and has sold more in its first six weeks of release than any of her previous albums did in the same amount of time. The only area this album has failed is in the minds of certain people who had outlandish expectations for this album. An artist doesn't go from selling 2.5 million with four substantial hits to selling one million with an underperforming first single; it's just not realistic. |
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Post by KingB on Jan 12, 2010 14:30:01 GMT -5
I thought GGGB was her breakthrough.. so she went from breakthrough album back to struggling? even gaga´s ep sold more than her ..I mean C´mon
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jan 12, 2010 14:33:37 GMT -5
I thought GGGB was her breakthrough.. so she went from breakthrough album back to struggling? even gaga´s ep sold more than her ..I mean C´mon Well, now that I see a rational discussion is out of the question (I should have known), I don't feel the need to continue. Keep sippin the hateraid.  |
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Post by yaya on Jan 12, 2010 14:37:29 GMT -5
Hard is not going to help her push another 500K esp when it cant even go Top 10 on iTunes and I forgot about Susan Boyle.. David Cook did surprisingly well! and Buble has an amazing fan base anyone else in POP world done it? Hard is in the Top 10 on iTunes so  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2010 14:40:13 GMT -5
I dont care what everyone says Rihannas numbers are disappointing. She will struggle to sell 1.2 mill in the states. Beyonce and Britney were already at a million this time last year. Maybe a Grammy perfomance could renew intrest? Her performance at the AMAs was a disaster so I don't know if thats a good idea. I think just giving the album time will be best. Look at Clarkson, she's had 3 top 10 singles for AIEW and her album is still at 800k If you loose monumentum once, it's very hard to bounce back again... Already Gone kept the album's weekly sales at 5-10k, but a hit won't do too much when the album falls beyond the 10k mark... |
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Post by ingrownhairdyke on Jan 12, 2010 14:41:35 GMT -5
hahah^
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Post by ingrownhairdyke on Jan 12, 2010 14:45:32 GMT -5
Her performance at the AMAs was a disaster so I don't know if thats a good idea. I think just giving the album time will be best. Look at Clarkson, she's had 3 top 10 singles for AIEW and her album is still at 800k If you loose monumentum once, it's very hard to bounce back again... Already Gone kept the album's weekly sales at 5-10k, but a hit won't do too much when the album falls beyond the 10k mark... wasnt gaga below 10k? even when just dance was climbing before and around xmas she was still not selling much until pokerface came along. |
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Post by KingB on Jan 12, 2010 14:48:27 GMT -5
I thought GGGB was her breakthrough.. so she went from breakthrough album back to struggling? even gaga´s ep sold more than her ..I mean C´mon Well, now that I see a rational discussion is out of the question (I should have known), I don't feel the need to continue. Keep sippin the hateraid. i´m sipping that realisticraid ..save me the fantales |
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Post by KingB on Jan 12, 2010 14:49:19 GMT -5
esp when it cant even go Top 10 on iTunes and I forgot about Susan Boyle.. David Cook did surprisingly well! and Buble has an amazing fan base anyone else in POP world done it? Hard is in the Top 10 on iTunes so  |
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Post by as485y on Jan 12, 2010 14:52:16 GMT -5
Hard is in the Top 10 on iTunes so LOL i know iwas thinking.....in what country? |
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Jan 12, 2010 14:59:19 GMT -5
Hard is currently charting twice within the top 100 on iTunes. When the popularity bars from both versions are combined it shows the single is actually #9 on the overall chart: 
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2010 15:07:12 GMT -5
If you loose monumentum once, it's very hard to bounce back again... Already Gone kept the album's weekly sales at 5-10k, but a hit won't do too much when the album falls beyond the 10k mark... wasnt gaga below 10k? even when just dance was climbing before and around xmas she was still not selling much until pokerface came along. There are exceptions to the rule and PF is def one of em.... |
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Post by HolidayGuy on Jan 12, 2010 15:07:40 GMT -5
OK- the chart looks VERY odd now. The percentage just went up a tad to 54.98%, and it looks like this:
CHART DATE: 01/11/2010
LAST UPDATE: 01/12/2010 11:53:18
NOW IN: 54.98%
LW TW artist / album label power index
-- 1 KE$HA RCA/RMG 102,588
ANIMAL
1 2 SUSAN BOYLE COLUMBIA 48,312
I DREAMED A DREAM
2 3 MARY J. BLIGE GEFFEN 31,355
STRONGER WITH EACH TEAR
Maybe there was an error with Ke$ha's numbers yesterday?
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Post by KingB on Jan 12, 2010 15:08:41 GMT -5
DEAD punch up k$
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Post by nighttime on Jan 12, 2010 15:09:13 GMT -5
some people are quite transparent. please save the dramatic pick-and-choose digs; as they carry no value and noone wants to read them.  anyway, on topic wow that's quite an increase lol |
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