Billboard Hot 100 - 01/23/2010

[elementd5]

Jan 8, 2010 11:39:35 GMT -5 Black Jesus said:

Ughh I know I'm going to get shot for saying this but the 'Rhythmic' format is such a joke and that's the only reason why Ke$ha is ahead on the Mediabase chart. Seriously...it's basically the same as the Pop format and basically all the same songs on the Pop format are in the Top 40 on Rhythmic

Yep. You knew it. You know good and well Rhythmic's more Urban leaning than anything so that's not it.

[badrobot]

Why is a radio format a "joke"?

It's just a format. Active Rock and Alternative/Modern Rock have a lot of overlap, as well. So do AC and Hot AC. That doesn't make any of them a "joke."

If someone is getting a lot of airplay, it's because they're getting a lot of airplay, not because of how a radio format is named.

[musik...]

it looks like "Hard" might crack the top 10 this week if its adds at radio continue and it continues to move on iTunes!!! Plus Gaga/Beyonce are finally moving up the charts with Telephone. As much as i love Bad Romance, it did well but i know that Telephone has NUMBER ONE written all over it =). Excited for this weeks charts!

[neverduplicated]

The only thing "Telephone" has working against it is the fact that by the time it's actually sent for adds, a lot of stations will be burnt out on the song as they've been playing it for over a month now. But I agree, it does have smash written all over it.

[jgizzle89]

Jan 8, 2010 12:28:00 GMT -5 bibliotheque said:

Jan 8, 2010 12:06:38 GMT -5 Young Money said:

I am obviously talking about Airplay

I think he was referring to Zach

yeah, i was.

[fridayteenage]

I'm guessing Kesha this week: 1 #1
1 other T10
1 other T40
1 other T100

Whoo, 2>1 T40 airplay. Yay for Tay.

[ListenToItTwice]

Jan 8, 2010 19:21:00 GMT -5 fridayteenage said:

I'm guessing Kesha this week: 1 #1
1 other T10

It's worth noting that Blah Blah Blah is at #1 on iTunes.

[chopped89]

Hey, not to be stupid or anything....if a singer earned so much in airplay how does he get paid??i mean they only play it!!(i'm not familiar with charts and numbers and i also don't care, but as i am here i want to know...)

and where could i see the other charts and all that...!!
Also i'm really sick of empire state of mind it should be done by now!!

[Mike]

Jan 8, 2010 22:02:54 GMT -5 chopped89 said:

Hey, not to be stupid or anything....if a singer earned so much in airplay how does he get paid??i mean they only play it!!(i'm not familiar with charts and numbers and i also don't care, but as i am here i want to know...)

and where could i see the other charts and all that...!!
Also i'm really sick of empire state of mind it should be done by now!!

Singers get paid in different ways. If a singer just records a track without writing on it, he/she will not receive money for radio play. Only the song writers/copyright holders/publishers receive money. That is called a performance right royalty. Singers that don't write on tracks can still get money for performance of a song, though. For example, if an artist performs the song on TV he or she will get something for that.

The other kind of royalty is a mechanical royalty. That is given out to the artist whenever an album or single is purchased on iTunes or in physical form.

There has been a lot of talk in the past years about changing the law to allow artists to be compensated for radio play. Many feel that because an artist has so many different sources of revenue that they don't deserve to receive extra for radio play. The NAB (National Association of Broadcasters) is the force that's keeping any bills passed. They believe that they shouldn't have to pay extra fees and claim that stations could potentially go bankrupt. Either that or they have to include more advertisements/or charge more to advertisers.

The other side of it is that an artist is the one that makes a song popular. A song writer may have an insanely catchy song, but without the right voice it may never be heard. The artist is the one that is being exposed to the public, not the songwriter -- so why shouldn't they get a cut as well?

I believe most of this info is accurate. Anyone can be free to correct me if I said anything wrong lol.

[chopped89]

^^

thanks, i thought of that, but i wasn't sure...or i didn't have the right thought!!
anyway thanks i just wanted to know how it works for an artist to not sell good but still get money because of the radio....there was an argument about hip-hop djs not playin the good music and thats why artists go broke...blah blah blah!!

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

I think they should divide up the money the song writers and publishers get with the related artists that are credited on the song.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Jan 8, 2010 15:00:04 GMT -5 badrobot said:

Why is a radio format a "joke"?

It's just a format. Active Rock and Alternative/Modern Rock have a lot of overlap, as well. So do AC and Hot AC. That doesn't make any of them a "joke."

If someone is getting a lot of airplay, it's because they're getting a lot of airplay, not because of how a radio format is named.

Tell it sista!

[bks]

Here's how Hot 100 Airplay is shaping up before recurrents are removed w/ 4 days left:

No. 1 - Jay Z / Alicia Keys (+2.8 million)
No. 2 - Ke$ha (+9.3 million)
No. 3 - Lady Gaga (+6.9 million)
No. 4 - Iyaz (+2.5 million)
No. 5 - David Guetta / Akon (+4.5 million)
No. 6 - Owl City (-0.6 million)
No. 7 - Rihanna / Jeezy (+6.0 million)
No. 10 - Kelly Clarkson (+0.5 million)
No. 11 - Young Money (+6.5 million)
No. 14 - Jay Sean / Sean Paul (+4.0 million)
No. 15 - Britney Spears (-0.7 million)
No. 17 - Trey Songz / Drake (+1.9 million)
No. 18 - Trey Sonz (+4.9 million)
No. 19 - Ludacris (+4.1 million)
No. 20 - Melanie Fiona (+3.1 million)
No. 27 - Taylor Swift (-0.4 million)
No. 28 - New Boyz / Ray J (+2.9 million)
No. 32 - Snoop Dogg / The Dream (+0.6 million)
No. 36 - Boys Like Girls / Taylor Swift (+1.9 million)
No. 37 - Cascada (-0.3 million)
No. 38 - Orianthi (+2.6 million)
No. 39 - Shinedown (+0.3 million)
No. 42 - Lady Gaga / Beyonce (+3.9 million)
No. 47 - Maxwell (+1.8 million)
No. 48 - Alicia Keys (+1.9 million)
No. 50 - Michael Buble (+1.6 million)
No. 55 - Mary J. Blige (+2.8 million)
No. 56 - Unkle Kracker (+0.2 million)
No. 57 - Kris Allen (+1.0 million)
No. 58 - Pitbull / Akon (+1.6 million)
No. 60 - Rob Thomas (+0.7 million)
No. 62 - Snoop Dogg (+1.5 million)
No. 63 - Timbaland / Justin Timberlake (+2.8 million)
No. 64 - Black Eyed Peas (+3.9 million)
No. 71 - Nickelback (+0.2 million)
No. 72 - Train (+0.5 million)
No. 78 - Carrie Underwood (+1.1 million)
No. 80 - Robin Thicke (+2.1 million)
No. 82 - Sade (-0.1 million)
No. 90 - Justin Beiber (+0.1 million)
No. 94 - Daughty (-0.1 million)
No. 104 - John Mayer (+0.7 million)
No. 110 - Kings Of Leon (-0.6 million)
No. 112 - Adam Lambert (+1.3 million)
No. 118 - Jason Derulo (+1.5 million)
No. 120 - Usher / Plies (+1.2 million)
No. 130 - Timbaland / Drake (+2.4 million)
No. 141 - Whitney Houston (-2.1 million)
No. 144 - Shakira (+1.0 million) Did It Again
No. 148 - Alicia Keys / Beyonce (+2.0 million)
No. 160 - Angie Stone (+2.8 million)
No. 174 - Shakira / Lil Wayne (-1.8 million)
No. 177 - Pheonix (+0.5 million)
No. 211 - Chris Brown (+0.4 million)
No. 318 - Taylor Swift (+1.3 million) Fearless
No. 324 - Ruben Studdard (+1.4 million)
No. 408 - Beyonce (-0.6 million)
No. 463 - Lil Wayne (+0.1 million)

On R&B airplay, Melanie Fiona is 1, Trey Songs/Drake 2, Trey Songz 3, Young Money 4, Ludacris 6, Alicia Keys 9, Mary J. Blige 12, Robin Thicke 13, Sade 16, Snoop Dogg 17, Rihanna/Jeezy 18, Usher/Plies 20, Whitney 21, Timbaland/Drake 27, Beyonce 59 (Video Phone) and Alicia/Beyonce 74.

[RockaByeBaby]

No. 2 - Ke$ha (+9.3 million)

Yes!!!

Thanks bks!

[@DiegoMarcondes_]

Mediabase Saturday Update

TOP 20

1. JAY-Z - Empire State Of Mind f/A. Keys = 114.248 (+ 1.205)
2. KESHA - Tik Tok = 102.551 (+ 3.607) ▲
3. IYAZ - Replay = 102.084 (+ 0.909) ▼
4. LADY GAGA - Bad Romance = 100.587 (+ 2.528)
5. DAVID GUETTA - Sexy Chick f/Akon = 89.813 (+ 1.199)
6. OWL CITY - Fireflies = 74.143 (- 0.558)
7. TAYLOR SWIFT - You Belong With Me = 71.726 (- 1.885)
8. JASON DERULO - Whatcha Say = 71.423 (- 1.108)
9. RIHANNA - Hard f/Jeezy = 67.426 (+ 1.988) ▲
10. KELLY CLARKSON - Already Gone = 65.894 (- 0.058) ▼
11. YOUNG MONEY - Bedrock f/Lloyd = 60.171 (+ 3.218) ▲
12. DRAKE KANYE LIL WAYNE EMINEM - Forever = 57.139 (- 0.749) ▼
13. TREY SONGZ - I Invented Sex f/Drake = 56.678 (+ 0.917) ▲
14. BEYONCE – Sweet Billboard Charts Dreams = 56.209 (- 1.060) ▼
15. TREY SONGZ - Say Aah = 53.688 (+ 2.209) ▲
16. JAY SEAN - Do You Remember Billboard Charts = 53.045 (+ 1.281) ▼
17. REBA - Consider Me Gone = 51.342 (+ 0.194) ▲
18. BRITNEY SPEARS - 3 = 50.776 (- 0.663) ▼
19. LUDACRIS - How Low = 50.467 (+ 1.630) ▲
20. BIRDMAN - Money To Blow f/Lil Wayne = 49.731 (+ 0.738) ▲


JAY SEAN - Down f/Lil Wayne = 49.679 (- 0.918)
KINGS OF LEON - Use Somebody = 48.937 (- 1.154)
MELANIE FIONA - It Kills Me = 48.454 (+ 1.984)
LADY ANTEBELLUM - Need You Now = 48.203 (- 0.129)
TAYLOR SWIFT - Fifteen = 47.077 (- 0.936)
MIRANDA LAMBERT - White Liar = 44.727 (+ 1.280)
NEW BOYZ - Tie Me Down f/Ray J = 39.366 (+ 1.012)
SNOOP DOGG - Gangsta Luv f/The Dream = 39.215 (+ 0.178)
SHINEDOWN - If You Only Knew = 31.406 (- 0.020)
BOYS LIKE GIRLS - Two Is Better Than One = 30.507 (+ 0.780)
ORIANTHI - According To You = 30.263 (+ 0.999)
ALICIA KEYS - Try Sleeping With A Broken.. = 29.500 (+ 1.451)
UNCLE KRACKER - Smile = 27.682 (- 0.065)
MARY. J. BLIGE - I Am = 27.150 (+ 0.650)
KRIS ALLEN - Live Like We're Dying = 26.367 (+ 0.429)
LADY GAGA - Telephone Billoboard Charts f/Beyonce = 26.072 (+ 1.083)
SNOOP DOGG - I Wanna Rock= 25.599 (+ 0.524)
ROB THOMAS - Someday= 25.407 (+ 0.369)
GUCCI MANE - Spotlight f/Usher = 25.014 (- 0.175)
NICKELBACK - Never Gonna Be Alone = 23.391 (+ 0.264)
CARRIE UNDERWOOD - Temporary Home = 23.104 (+ 0.725)
TRAIN - Hey, Soul Sister: 22.603 (+ 0.213)
BLACK EYED PEAS - Imma Be = 21.787 (+ 1.475)
SADE - Soldier Of Love = 21.618 (+ 0.504)
TIMBALAND - Carry Out f/Justin Timberlake = 21.608 (+ 0.669)
PITBULL - Shut It Down f/Akon = 20.586 (+ 0.774)
DAUGHTRY - Life After You = 18.122 (- 0.172)
JUSTIN BIEBER - One Less Lonely Girl= 17.580 (- 0.520)
JOHN MAYER - Heartbreak Warfare: 16.295 (+ 0.028)
USHER - Hey Daddy (Daddy's Home) = 14.248 (+ 0.483)
ADAM LAMBERT - Whataya Want From Me = 13.865 (+ 0.414)
JASON DERULO - In My Head: 12.153 (+ 0.458)
ALICIA KEYS - Put It In A Love...f/Beyonce = 11.056 (+ 0.968)
CHRIS BROWN - Crawl = 10.614 (+ 0.193)
THE SCRIPT - Breakeven = 9.178 (+ 0.039)
LADY ANTEBELLUM - American Honey= 8.307 (+ 0.514)
TAYLOR SWIFT – Fearless = 7.460 (+ 0.539)
BEYONCE - Video Phone = 6.772 (- 0.056)
LEIGHTON MEESTER - Somebody To Love f/R. Thicke = 5.060 (+ 0.123)
LEONA LEWIS - I Got You = 0.561 (- 0.045)
J-LO- Louboutins= 0.317 (- 0.109)

Updated by Fabio from brazilian community Billboard Charts> www.orkut.com.br/CommTopics?cmm=78696741

[abc]

LADY GAGA - Telephone f/Beyonce = 26.072 (+ 1.083)
ALICIA KEYS - Put It In A Love...f/Beyonce = 11.056 (+ 0.968)

[felipe]

Jan 8, 2010 22:18:10 GMT -5 Mike said:

Jan 8, 2010 22:02:54 GMT -5 chopped89 said:

Hey, not to be stupid or anything....if a singer earned so much in airplay how does he get paid??i mean they only play it!!(i'm not familiar with charts and numbers and i also don't care, but as i am here i want to know...)

and where could i see the other charts and all that...!!
Also i'm really sick of empire state of mind it should be done by now!!

Singers get paid in different ways. If a singer just records a track without writing on it, he/she will not receive money for radio play. Only the song writers/copyright holders/publishers receive money. That is called a performance right royalty. Singers that don't write on tracks can still get money for performance of a song, though. For example, if an artist performs the song on TV he or she will get something for that.

The other kind of royalty is a mechanical royalty. That is given out to the artist whenever an album or single is purchased on iTunes or in physical form.

There has been a lot of talk in the past years about changing the law to allow artists to be compensated for radio play. Many feel that because an artist has so many different sources of revenue that they don't deserve to receive extra for radio play. The NAB (National Association of Broadcasters) is the force that's keeping any bills passed. They believe that they shouldn't have to pay extra fees and claim that stations could potentially go bankrupt. Either that or they have to include more advertisements/or charge more to advertisers.

The other side of it is that an artist is the one that makes a song popular. A song writer may have an insanely catchy song, but without the right voice it may never be heard. The artist is the one that is being exposed to the public, not the songwriter -- so why shouldn't they get a cut as well?

I believe most of this info is accurate. Anyone can be free to correct me if I said anything wrong lol.

So the songwriter gets money for radio play but the producer does not? I always assumed the producer was more important than the songwriter in most cases. I think Timbaland played a bigger role in Sexyback's success than the people who wrote it. Just like David Ghetta's pproduction played a bigger role in I Gotta Feeling's success than the songwriters.

[bks]

Jan 9, 2010 10:08:23 GMT -5 felipe said:

Jan 8, 2010 22:18:10 GMT -5 Mike said:

Singers get paid in different ways. If a singer just records a track without writing on it, he/she will not receive money for radio play. Only the song writers/copyright holders/publishers receive money. That is called a performance right royalty. Singers that don't write on tracks can still get money for performance of a song, though. For example, if an artist performs the song on TV he or she will get something for that.

The other kind of royalty is a mechanical royalty. That is given out to the artist whenever an album or single is purchased on iTunes or in physical form.

There has been a lot of talk in the past years about changing the law to allow artists to be compensated for radio play. Many feel that because an artist has so many different sources of revenue that they don't deserve to receive extra for radio play. The NAB (National Association of Broadcasters) is the force that's keeping any bills passed. They believe that they shouldn't have to pay extra fees and claim that stations could potentially go bankrupt. Either that or they have to include more advertisements/or charge more to advertisers.

The other side of it is that an artist is the one that makes a song popular. A song writer may have an insanely catchy song, but without the right voice it may never be heard. The artist is the one that is being exposed to the public, not the songwriter -- so why shouldn't they get a cut as well?

I believe most of this info is accurate. Anyone can be free to correct me if I said anything wrong lol.

So the songwriter gets money for radio play but the producer does not? I always assumed the producer was more important than the songwriter in most cases. I think Timbaland played a bigger role in Sexyback's success than the people who wrote it. Just like David Ghetta's pproduction played a bigger role in I Gotta Feeling's success than the songwriters.

In both of those cases, the producer was also one of the main songwriters. Everything starts with the song but the artist and the producer deserve to be paid for radio play in my opinion along w/ the songwriters.

[Adonis the DemiGod!]

Jan 9, 2010 10:17:19 GMT -5 bks said:

Jan 9, 2010 10:08:23 GMT -5 felipe said:

So the songwriter gets money for radio play but the producer does not? I always assumed the producer was more important than the songwriter in most cases. I think Timbaland played a bigger role in Sexyback's success than the people who wrote it. Just like David Ghetta's pproduction played a bigger role in I Gotta Feeling's success than the songwriters.

In both of those cases, the producer was also one of the main songwriters. Everything starts with the song but the artist and the producer deserve to be paid for radio play in my opinion along w/ the songwriters.

Thats interesting. I think everything starts with the sound. If something doesn't sound good then it doesn't even matter.

[Rated R]

This week might be Hard's best chance to reach the top 10 of the hot 100, it is one of the largest gainers in airplay and is increasing in digital sales :)

[georgian]

I think this week Hard will be #7 or #8 on the Hot 100 :)

[J. Rob]

BKS, how is "Pretty Girls" doing on R&B Airplay? I see that it just cracked the Top 50 on Mediabase

[LC3]

^Are you accounting for Blah Blah Blah breaking into the top 10?

[J. Rob]

Jan 9, 2010 11:33:54 GMT -5 LC3 said:

^Are you accounting for Blah Blah Blah breaking into the top 10?

??? maybe you were directing this at someone else....I'm wondering how Wale is doing on R&B airplay

but for the record, I can't stand that song. It's not as bad as Tik Tok, but it sucks nonetheless.

[LC3]

Yah I was talking to georgian

[yaoer]

ALICIA KEYS - Try Sleeping With A Broken.. = 29.500 (+ 1.451)

[jgizzle89]

why are there so many huge increases this week? oh, and it looks like Ke$ha will be #1 on the Hot 100 for another week or two.

[bibliotheque]

I wonder what will dethrone her.

[It's me, bitch.]

does anyone know what happened to the mediabase login... name:ucla password:class

It doesn't work now, i want to look up a few numbers.

[HolidayGuy]

I gather Sade is suffering a fate similar to Whitney, in that Urban AC is her only big airplay outlet.

Look at Reba still ticking upward.