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Post by Minimalism on Jan 21, 2010 8:31:59 GMT -5
But according to the rumor, she's only switching back to Sony in the UK, no?
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 21, 2010 8:33:32 GMT -5
Please stop explaining youself to me....you dont owe me any explanations whatsoever....i dont know you, nor do i want to know you....so lets keep it that way.
In my opinion you are pressed...and you continue to show it.
History in this thread shows you QUOTED myself first...and there is a way u can comment to someone...and the way you did was far far farrrr reaching, nor was it ur very first time...its like the third time....so yeah. I already didnt care for ur existence and u still try it
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Post by weaver on Jan 21, 2010 8:33:50 GMT -5
Poster of the week: Memoirs2k9
Best line: "can u not comprehend to ur own font?"
I love it! LMAO!@!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2010 8:37:08 GMT -5
For the record, Valentine's Day is a Sunday and albums are released on Mondays in the UK.
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Post by weaver on Jan 21, 2010 8:38:13 GMT -5
But according to the rumor, she's only switching back to Sony in the UK, no? Well, they are referring to Mercury records, which I'm guessing is the UK arm of IDJ or something. It also sounds to me like it could be for this certain Valentine's day release only. There is so little info in the "article" it's hard to say.
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 21, 2010 8:38:51 GMT -5
But according to the rumor, she's only switching back to Sony in the UK, no? No...they dont call "Island Records" "Island Records" in the United Kingdom...its called "Mercury", same label..different names. The story is coming from the U.K thats why all the tabloids are saying this. They are saying "Sony" because "Columbia" is known as "Sony" Worldwide.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 21, 2010 8:41:46 GMT -5
FTR, an album being crap or extraordinary cannot be a FACT. It's all subjective. The truth is that, for some reason, the general public seems to lean more towards the former.
It's nice to see so many supporters for this album in Pulse, and fans in general. This album is in the bottom half of my ranking.
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 21, 2010 8:42:56 GMT -5
FTR, an album being crap or extraordinary cannot be a FACT. It's all subjective. The truth is that, for some reason, the general public seems to lean more towards the former. It's nice to see so many supporters for this album in Pulse, and fans in general. This album is in the bottom half of my ranking. Preach! ;)
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Post by Minimalism on Jan 21, 2010 8:43:40 GMT -5
Well, they are referring to Mercury records, which I'm guessing is the UK arm of IDJ or something. It also sounds to me like it could be for this certain Valentine's day release only. There is so little info in the "article" it's hard to say. I guess we'll have to wait and see. Personally I don't think switching label at this point will matter much. If she wants to, she should do it before releasing her next proper record.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 21, 2010 8:45:30 GMT -5
FTR, an album being crap or extraordinary cannot be a FACT. It's all subjective. The truth is that, for some reason, the general public seems to lean more towards the former. It's nice to see so many supporters for this album in Pulse, and fans in general. This album is in the bottom half of my ranking. Preach! ;) ;)
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Post by MiMi's Slave on Jan 21, 2010 9:27:21 GMT -5
who's listening to Nick Cannon 92.3 NOW ?
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Post by imperfect on Jan 22, 2010 0:26:26 GMT -5
FTR, an album being crap or extraordinary cannot be a FACT. It's all subjective. The truth is that, for some reason, the general public seems to lean more towards the former. It's nice to see so many supporters for this album in Pulse, and fans in general. This album is in the bottom half of my ranking. Did the public even get to hear the album to come to this conclusion? Doubtful. How can people exclaim something as crap that they didn't even bother buying? So is every album that flops, a case of the public thinking it's crap? More likely, people just didn't feel the need to buy another MC album so soon after her last one. That, combined with a lousy second single, sealed the deal. Most of the public probably couldn't name 2 songs from Memoirs. Whether the album is great or not is subjective, but most fans loved the record.
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Post by Gray. on Jan 22, 2010 0:38:30 GMT -5
I can't believe that the album was led with such a strong single and then everything after that flopped hard. I listened to "Obsessed" today for the first time in months and fell in love again. Too bad nothing else on this album piques my interest.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jan 22, 2010 0:41:35 GMT -5
FTR, an album being crap or extraordinary cannot be a FACT. It's all subjective. The truth is that, for some reason, the general public seems to lean more towards the former. It's nice to see so many supporters for this album in Pulse, and fans in general. This album is in the bottom half of my ranking. More likely, people just didn't feel the need to buy another MC album so soon after her last one.That's definitely not the reason MOAIA underperformed. 'Obsessed' was a big hit, but there was no interest in anything other than 'Obsessed', and like you said, IWTKWLI sealed the deal.
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Post by weaver on Jan 22, 2010 7:19:14 GMT -5
A different, uptempo second single might have helped. Hard to say. They seem to be a little "Obsessed" with ballad second single. Take E=MC2. That album was SO all about the uptempo tracks, yet for some reason they went w/ Bye Bye.
I was hoping for the best w/ IWKWLI but I'm not surprised it underperformed. It probably would have been better to go w/ Hate U, and release IWK to the rest of the world, but alas there is no going back now...but i still enjoy the album.
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 22, 2010 8:51:05 GMT -5
*Radio Update (01/22/2010)
Angel's Cry Remix= 1.123m AI Up Out My Face Remix= 0.660m AI
AI= Audience Impressions
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Post by Where Can It Go? on Jan 22, 2010 8:52:03 GMT -5
Sometimes the audience just isn't feeling an album. There are actually some Mariah fans that don't do this obsessive/compulsive song and dance that the people here do and have actually sort of let her go and I really don't blame them, I haven't really given a crap about her this era at all. I've just come to terms that she'll NEVER be as in top form as she happened to be in the Emancipation of Mimi era again. It's obvious that the record industry and the buying public just doesn't care about her anymore. Mariah has been running off of cheesy gimmicks since E=MC2 and her last two albums worth of songs have been really hollow and uninspired. As of late, Mariah's albums just sound and look like a vehicle to carry her perfume lines. E=MC2 came out with M and Luscious Pink. Memoirs came out with Forever and as a vehicle to carry promotion for 'Precious'. Let's face facts, she has turned into a celebrity personality platform for gossip bloggers and TV talk shows. She's no longer seen as "Mariah Carey The Singer", she's seen as "Mariah Carey The Drunk Chick On The Red Carpet With The Dorky Husband That Can't Keep His Whore Mouth Shut".
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 22, 2010 8:57:30 GMT -5
Sometimes the audience just isn't feeling an album. There are actually some Mariah fans that don't do this obsessive/compulsive song and dance that the people here do and have actually sort of let her go and I really don't blame them, I haven't really given a crap about her this era at all. I've just come to terms that she'll NEVER be as in top form as she happened to be in the Emancipation of Mimi era again. It's obvious that the record industry and the buying public just doesn't care about her anymore. Mariah has been running off of cheesy gimmicks since E=MC2 and her last two albums worth of songs have been really hollow and uninspired. As of late, Mariah's albums just sound and look like a vehicle to carry her perfume lines. E=MC2 came out with M and Luscious Pink. Memoirs came out with Forever and as a vehicle to carry promotion for 'Precious'. Let's face facts, she has turned into a celebrity personality platform for gossip bloggers and TV talk shows. She's no longer seen as "Mariah Carey The Singer", she's seen as "Mariah Carey The Drunk Chick On The Red Carpet With The Dorky Husband That Can't Keep His Whore Mouth Shut". I wouldn't count her out just yet. She was in a FAR less privileged position pre-TEOM, yet she managed to conquer the audiences once again. If she does a GOOD record and put herself together, she could be on top of all the b***hes once again. Will she do it? Maybe, maybe not... let's wait and see. That's why I still follow her, and love her (I probably always will :) ) In the meantime, I'll continue being angry, and puzzled, about her latest work and decissions and the ones of those who are around her.
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 22, 2010 9:06:15 GMT -5
MY OPINION ABOUT "Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel"
I have Been a fan of Mariah since '94.....When i first heard she was working on this album i anticipated BIG BALLADS.....not just some knock off ballads like "h.a.t.e.u.", "Inseparable", "The Impossible" etc....I wanted & still want! BIG BALLADS like "Fly Like A Bird", "I Wish You Knew", "Joyride", "Mine Again" etc....and we didnt get that with this album, and thats what i was mostly anticipating!
When i gave the album a listen when the 30 second snippets leaked...i knew right then this was not the type of album i wanted.......did my opinion change when the full songs leaked? NO! did I go out an Buy Memoirs? NO! Does that make me less than a Lamb? NO!
With Mariah, I have gotten to the point where i am sick of supporting her even when im not feeling the record: "Rainbow", "Glitter", "Charmbracelet" etc...I Actually enjoyed "E=MC2"...But I want the "The Emancipation of Mimi's", "Daydream's", "Merry Christmas's", "Mariah Carey's", "Emotions", "Music Box" type albums....
I think that the reason why this album got a lackluster reception from the general public was the fact that Mariah Carey isnt opening her mouth and singing in full voice like she did with "We Belong Together" and other successful singles similar....I think people want Mariah to SING again....and do FULL BALLADS not HALF BALLADS....I was excited when i heard she was covering "I Want To Know What Love Is", but let down when i heard it because A) It wasnt a Power Pop Ballads (Which is what i expected), B) She Made it an R&B/Gospel Version (Nothing wrong with that....just some songs dont need a genre change, and this one sure didnt), & C) The Songs length was shortened.
I didnt care for Obsessed....it was cool, but not what i wanted
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 22, 2010 9:16:41 GMT -5
One thing i am really tired of with Mariah...is when she does alot of whispering on a song.
Some songs, Mariah's whispering is sexy...like Dont Forget About Us & We Belong Together....then u have those where she is whispering to much and it just becomes flat out annoying like "H.a.t.e.u.", "Candy Bling", "The Impossible".
I love Mariah's Up Tempo's as well..I love her POP Up Tempo's. i dont like those on MOAIA. I love the Up Tempo's on E=MC2 (Especially O.O.C). if Mariah is going to do Up Tempo's i want STRONG Up Tempo's like "Fantasy", "Fantasy Remix", & "Honey".
Mariah's killer tempo is the Mid-Tempo! Always Be My Baby, Touch My Body, I'm That Chick, Dreamlover, Shake It Off.....Mariah is a Magician when it comes to these! and this album's Mid Tempo's are wack & boring: "Candy Bling"....it would have been good if she would stop all the whispering! lol.
I would like for Mariah's next studio effort to be Mid-Tempos (strong ones) & Big Ballads! Full Ballads! then i would go out an buy 10 copies myself!
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 22, 2010 9:45:23 GMT -5
My eyes sparkle... the truth is I want real Mimi back!
What do you think of "It's A Wrap". I think it's one of Mariah's best of her latest work. I just really love it!
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Post by weaver on Jan 22, 2010 10:34:17 GMT -5
Memoirs2k9...I can't believe, considering your screen name, that you didn't even get the album. No wonder it's only sold 400k. Hard core fans aren't even buying it...
Junkiex - I didn't like It's A Wrap at first but I've fallen in love with it. I can't wait for the version w/ Mary J....
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Post by wavey.✨️ on Jan 22, 2010 11:25:35 GMT -5
I can see Its A Wrap as a movie-type video. It would be so good.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 22, 2010 11:37:07 GMT -5
I just love everything about it, her voice, the lyrics, the piano.... it sets a really nice mood!
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Post by Alex on Jan 22, 2010 11:42:36 GMT -5
I pray when UOMF goes for adds next week it gains a lot of spins. Her flops are getting worse and worse. Even I STAY IN LOVE did better than HATE U...
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 22, 2010 11:44:01 GMT -5
I Love "Its A Wrap"! Definitely A Classic!!!!
Its my favorite off the album: It's A Wrap, Angel's Cry, Languishing, I Want To Know What Love Is, Angel's Prelude.
LOL! I love It's A Wrap!!! Gosh!!! If this album contained more material like it i would have broke my neck going out to purchase this album!
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 22, 2010 11:44:55 GMT -5
Memoirs2k9...I can't believe, considering your screen name, that you didn't even get the album. No wonder it's only sold 400k. Hard core fans aren't even buying it... Junkiex - I didn't like It's A Wrap at first but I've fallen in love with it. I can't wait for the version w/ Mary J.... I put this name up because it was all i could think of at the moment!
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Jan 22, 2010 11:45:48 GMT -5
One thing i am really tired of with Mariah...is when she does alot of whispering on a song. Some songs, Mariah's whispering is sexy...like Dont Forget About Us & We Belong Together....then u have those where she is whispering to much and it just becomes flat out annoying like "H.a.t.e.u.", "Candy Bling", "The Impossible". Hold up, hold up, hold tight....it seems as though so much good music is going right over your head. And you didn't even buy Memoirs? I'm gonna need you to drop that screenname, take 12 and a half steps back. Do not pass go, do NOT collect 200 dollars!
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Jan 22, 2010 11:48:12 GMT -5
I just love everything about it, her voice, the lyrics, the piano.... it sets a really nice mood! I was in Uber Love with It's A Wrap initially, then got tired of it and put it on the back burner. Recently it was brought back to my attention by the (mostly)live performances at the concerts and Lopez Tonight. I'm head over heels again.
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 22, 2010 11:53:01 GMT -5
One thing i am really tired of with Mariah...is when she does alot of whispering on a song. Some songs, Mariah's whispering is sexy...like Dont Forget About Us & We Belong Together....then u have those where she is whispering to much and it just becomes flat out annoying like "H.a.t.e.u.", "Candy Bling", "The Impossible". Hold up, hold up, hold tight....it seems as though so much good music is going right over your head. And you didn't even buy Memoirs? I'm gonna need you to drop that screenname, take 12 and a half steps back. Do not pass go, do NOT collect 200 dollars! And im not going to buy it.....Im actually liking these remixes im hearing....I may buy Angels Advocate.... Good music is not going over my head....this music is horrible majority of it wont stand the test of time...and most fans are all ready for a new album this early! It's A Wrap, Languishing, and Angels Cry are the only songs on the album that has what it takes to stand the test of time.... To me the album is nothing but under average R&B.....which is horrible none of these tracks can see "Melt Away" from "Daydream"....or "Thank God I Found You" from "Rainbow"....most definitely cant see "Breakdown" from "Butterfly"! MOAIA is a mess
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