Hefty Hanna
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Mar 3, 2010 12:00:52 GMT -5
If she wants mainstream success she needs to incorporate a dancier sound to her music. That's the bottom line here.
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KMJ1
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Post by KMJ1 on Mar 3, 2010 16:30:11 GMT -5
Mimi will never ever go outside of the formulatic hip hop r&b box. Shes scared sh*t to take a risk or do something different.
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jayy
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Post by jayy on Mar 3, 2010 17:28:57 GMT -5
I don't think she should go away for that long. I don't think early 2011 would be a good time to release her next album. If she waits too long, she'll lose her fan base. If E=MC2 came out a year earlier, it would have done much much better. It would have done better because there was a huge album before it. It wouldnt matter is the next album was released a year later because MOAIA flopped.
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danny1999
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Post by danny1999 on Mar 4, 2010 1:59:43 GMT -5
Mimi's rare sold-out date
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17 Mariah Carey, RydazNrtisT The Colosseum at Caesars Palace
Las Vegas, Nev.
Feb. 27, 2010
$552,188
4,053 / 4,053
1 / 1
$250, $175, $145, $75
AEG Live
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Legoman
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Post by Legoman on Mar 4, 2010 2:59:00 GMT -5
Only 1? Damn.
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darko95
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Post by darko95 on Mar 4, 2010 3:16:56 GMT -5
Sold out shows or not, she's had an amazing career so far...Every legendary artist has ups and downs and their level of dame rises from time to time. She'll be fine
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Post by Candy Bling on Mar 4, 2010 8:15:07 GMT -5
Not all the boxscores have been released yet.
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r.enato
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Post by r.enato on Mar 4, 2010 8:38:31 GMT -5
Mimi will never ever go outside of the formulatic hip hop r&b box. Shes scared sh*t to take a risk or do something different. That's not true. When Sony wanted her to do nothing but sing ballads in long dresses, she took her risk and went urban/hip-hop and was called crazy. What I see is that she isn't willing to do a sound she doesn't like/care about, and that has nothing to do with being scared.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 8:47:44 GMT -5
If she wants mainstream success she needs to incorporate a dancier sound to her music. That's the bottom line here. I disagree completely. She needs to continue focusing on R&B and solidifying her Urban AC base. It's not worth losing credibility at formats that could continue to support her for the rest of her life for one more era of Pop success.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2010 8:59:04 GMT -5
A month ago, Nicki Minaj was a virtual unknown. Now, she is on the brink of becoming an international superstar. Maybe I'm overstating things, but Minaj is featured on three songs on this week's Hot Digital Songs chart. She has featured billing on Ludacris' "My Chick Bad," which debuts at #27, Lil Wayne's "Knockout," which inches up to #44 and Mariah Carey's "Up Out My Face," which falls to #153.
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Mar 4, 2010 13:01:48 GMT -5
DID I READ THE BILLBOARD 200 RIGHT???
MEMOIRS IS UP FROM #124 TO #65!
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bruno
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Post by bruno on Mar 4, 2010 13:10:12 GMT -5
Kind of... It's at #66!!!! Great Jump!!!
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beebee
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Post by beebee on Mar 4, 2010 13:41:44 GMT -5
I don't think she should go away for that long. I don't think early 2011 would be a good time to release her next album. If she waits too long, she'll lose her fan base. If E=MC2 came out a year earlier, it would have done much much better. Lol, she won't lose her fan base. Sade took almost 10 years to release new material and she (they ?) came back stronger than ever. Just tween artists needs to keep releasing albums constantly, 'cause they'll surely won't buy their albums when they grow up, but Mariah has a solid and mature fan base (I guess?). She just needs to release QUALITY ALBUMS,that's all. Her fans won't forget her.
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Bojangles
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Post by Bojangles on Mar 4, 2010 13:45:52 GMT -5
Taking a 2 or 3 year break won't kill her fanbase. Please.
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Hefty Hanna
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Mar 4, 2010 13:51:54 GMT -5
If she wants mainstream success she needs to incorporate a dancier sound to her music. That's the bottom line here. I disagree completely. She needs to continue focusing on R&B and solidifying her Urban AC base. It's not worth losing credibility at formats that could continue to support her for the rest of her life for one more era of Pop success. I'm not saying she should continue catering to pop audiences, but if she does want to, she needs to make dance records. I agree that it may be smarter to focus on her R&B audience.
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weaver
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Post by weaver on Mar 4, 2010 17:02:45 GMT -5
I disagree completely. She needs to continue focusing on R&B and solidifying her Urban AC base. It's not worth losing credibility at formats that could continue to support her for the rest of her life for one more era of Pop success. I'm not saying she should continue catering to pop audiences, but if she does want to, she needs to make dance records. I agree that it may be smarter to focus on her R&B audience. Well in another two years the fad will be something else. Chasing fads is not the answer. I think, at this point, what we are seeing is a less "hungry" Mariah. She has, really, nothing left to prove as far as music goes. She worked her ASS off for, say, the first 15 years of her career. She may just not be willing to work that hard anymore, and I don't blame her. Her focus has shifted.
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Caution
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Post by Caution on Mar 4, 2010 17:21:14 GMT -5
Mariah Dominates Brazilian Airwaves Mariah's "I Want To Know What Love Is" continues to reign on the Brazilian Airplay Chart, recording a consecutive 19th week at #1!
If the song stays at the top next week, it will become the biggest hit ever in Brazilian airplay history. Source: Crowley Broadcast Analysis | Joao | Mariah Daily
Can't wait ;)
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bruno
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Post by bruno on Mar 4, 2010 17:30:56 GMT -5
That's great!!!!
A Brazilian record, a great jump in the BB 200, a sold out concert... Mariah's luck is back!! Perfect time for Angels Advocate!!!! LOL
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Post by nitro on Mar 4, 2010 17:43:22 GMT -5
Hopefully.... let's keep our fingers crossed! I'm not doing today's update because it's not a good one.
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tyrannitar
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Post by tyrannitar on Mar 5, 2010 1:09:11 GMT -5
Up Out My Face" feat. Nicki Minaj Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Songs: #43 (Last week: #39) Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay: #43 (Last week: #39)
"Angels Cry" feat. Ne-Yo Billboard Yahoo Video: #8 (Last week: #6)
Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel Billboard 200: #66 (Last week: #124) Sales this week: 8,139 (+59.2%) Total Sales: 445,281 Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Albums: #19 (Last week: #27)
Snap... UOMF's totally a hot track, don't see why it's not doing better. :(
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makmak
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Post by makmak on Mar 5, 2010 2:05:56 GMT -5
Why isn't there any mention of the Jumpsmokers Remix Album? :|
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Post by qwertsy on Mar 5, 2010 4:35:43 GMT -5
That's great!!!! A Brazilian record, a great jump in the BB 200, a sold out concert... Mariah's luck is back!! Perfect time for Angels Advocate!!!! LOL cant she tour brazil and sell 100k albums there? she needs some help worldwide. ???
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qwertsy
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Post by qwertsy on Mar 5, 2010 4:38:28 GMT -5
Up Out My Face" feat. Nicki Minaj Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Songs: #43 (Last week: #39) Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Airplay: #43 (Last week: #39) "Angels Cry" feat. Ne-Yo Billboard Yahoo Video: #8 (Last week: #6) Memoirs of An Imperfect Angel Billboard 200: #66 (Last week: #124) Sales this week: 8,139 (+59.2%) Total Sales: 445,281 Billboard R&B/Hip-Hop Albums: #19 (Last week: #27) Snap... UOMF's totally a hot track, don't see why it's not doing better. :( because its the fourth fifth single off of an underwhelmingly-selling album. shoulda been the second single.
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weaver
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Post by weaver on Mar 5, 2010 7:52:13 GMT -5
^^ I agree, it would have made a great second single, far more representative of the album than I Wanna Know What Love Is....
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Post by stevyy on Mar 5, 2010 7:55:36 GMT -5
if we speak of records sold, which include singles sales too, miss chart-queen is still years ahead of her rival divas:
memoirs: 445,000 Obsessed: 1,500,000 + 30,000 physical IWTKWLI: 110,000 Betcha: 70,000 UP: 50,000 100%: 20,000 = 2,225,000 records sold this era.
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weaver
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Post by weaver on Mar 5, 2010 8:21:36 GMT -5
So do we know why Memoirs surged on the album chart?
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Post by r.enato on Mar 5, 2010 9:20:45 GMT -5
That's great!!!! A Brazilian record, a great jump in the BB 200, a sold out concert... Mariah's luck is back!! Perfect time for Angels Advocate!!!! LOL cant she tour brazil and sell 100k albums there? she needs some help worldwide. ??? Apparently she can't. she's always promising, though.
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nitro
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Post by nitro on Mar 5, 2010 10:36:08 GMT -5
I disagree completely. She needs to continue focusing on R&B and solidifying her Urban AC base. It's not worth losing credibility at formats that could continue to support her for the rest of her life for one more era of Pop success. I'm not saying she should continue catering to pop audiences, but if she does want to, she needs to make dance records. I agree that it may be smarter to focus on her R&B audience. I agree with B4L on this one... I don't think she needs to abandon her Urban base... Urban tracks can be dancey too. The perfect example is Obsessed... it was pop friendly and Urban / Rhythmic friendly, or Single Ladies, or Hard or Rude Boy by Rihanna. Or tracks like Sexy Chick by David Guetta and Akon. None of those are not Urban friendly.... the album has too many mid-tempos and not enough dance tracks. I still think it was such a huge mistake to not release Migrate or I'm That Chick from E=MC2. I also think with this album they rushed too many singles too quickly. But nothing seems to be sticking. The material is good, but it's just not what radio wants. I understand that she wants to make an album for the fans, but to me, songs like Outside and Looking In are so much more powerful and for the fans... not TEOM re-hashes. I still enjoy listening to tracks from E=MC2 because they are quite different from anything she's recorded. I don't think a little break and re-recording wouldn't hurt. Regarding Brazil, she really should go there. If she's going to score their biggest airplay record in history, she should pay homage to her fans there. It's only an 8 hour plane ride, and she needs her international fans (particularly in countries like Brazil, Japan, Korea, France, Italy, UK etc) to keep her career high-profile. Then strike with a party song that everyone would love... like Time of My Life with a bit more of an Urban tinge :) Party songs are in right now... Tik Tok, Just Dance, I Gotta Feeling, Telephone, etc. Not songs about exes. I must be honest, I enjoy a good party song every now and then. That's why I still listen to It's Like That to get me in the mood :) Anyhoo, I'm done with my ranting for the day.
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beebee
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Post by beebee on Mar 5, 2010 12:36:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately "IWTKWLI" 's success in Brazil is just helping the soundtrack of the soap opera rather than Memoirs in this country. It's not like "Halo", which achieved great success in Brazil last year as well,and helped Beyonce's sales there.
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Post by worldwide on Mar 5, 2010 15:07:12 GMT -5
Unfortunately "IWTKWLI" 's success in Brazil is just helping the soundtrack of the soap opera rather than Memoirs in this country. It's not like "Halo", which achieved great success in Brazil last year as well,and helped Beyonce's sales there. halo, which also was featured as a soap soundtrack, didn't help beyonce's sales much. what helped her was the tour in brazil. Mariah would most defintely sell arena in brazil, she's very popular there. Too bad she's ignoring them. As far as i know Brazil is country where MOAIA had the biggest success.
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