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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jan 14, 2010 11:01:37 GMT -5
There's no harm, but he's saying like it is a fact that Angels Cry would sell this album and that they're missing out on a huge opportunity to have a hit - which is completely BS, LOL. I like the song, but it's boring and cheesy as hell. Radio won't touch it. Here's what's been bugging me, and this is really all it is: Angels Cry feat. NeYo is announced as the single. A group of people on here freaks out, the project is over etc etc etc. Then it gets changed to Up Out My Face, and we have people coming on and complaining that THAT is a terrible choice, and they are not going to support it, etc etc etc. Does b***hing about it on here change it? No. It just clutters up the thread w/ complaints rather than what I might consider a constructive discussion. Sometimes we just need to realize that there is a lot going into these decisions, and they are group-think, and Mariah has such a varied fan base that she has a lot of different people to make happy. She can't make all the people happy all the time! That's life! Even though I think you are trying to lump me into the group freaking out about the project, I agree with everything else. What were you people expecting? She already shot videos for AC and UOMF. It was pretty obvious she was going choose between the two. If she really is going with UOMF, I think that's definitely the better choice. I'm happy with it.
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Post by vipanonymous on Jan 14, 2010 11:43:35 GMT -5
New Album Release Pushed Back
Mariah's new album Angels Advocate, originally scheduled for release on Tuesday, February 23, 2010, has been pushed back. The new release date currently is Tuesday, March 9, 2010.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 14, 2010 11:45:00 GMT -5
Are you aware about the fact that there is a different person behind each user name on this forum, weaver? There will NEVER be a time when EVERYONE is happy, because each person has different tastes and expectations.
I might not completely agree with AC being a sure hit, as memoirs pointed out, but he has his points and opinions and they are as valid as others.
That's how life works.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 14, 2010 11:52:18 GMT -5
New Album Release Pushed Back
Mariah's new album Angels Advocate, originally scheduled for release on Tuesday, February 23, 2010, has been pushed back. The new release date currently is Tuesday, March 9, 2010. MDJ Now *I* am going to bitch about something. This record label couldn't be treating Mariah in a worse way, and I can't believe she hasn't done a thing and actually thanked them at PCA. What world does she live in? Is she not aware of what has been happening since Bye Bye? Is Mimi living in some sort of fantasy land? I am glad she is so happy with her marriage and all but I will insist -and I know that many here will want to slay my head for this- that she has been taking less care of some other things. Maybe she's not beng completely aware of all this, but idk... This remix project idea is a complete mess, which will just add up to Mariah's latest flops :(
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Post by Alex on Jan 14, 2010 12:16:47 GMT -5
A push back was inevitable. They just changed the single release to UOMF. Plus it won't go for adds until 1/26. If the song hits, cool. If not, release AC for one last measure and she can come out with another CD in November 2011.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 14, 2010 12:25:02 GMT -5
Can we add a verse or two sang by SussieBo to the AC Remix??? 19th #1 for sure!
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Post by Push The Button on Jan 14, 2010 14:12:16 GMT -5
It's being released the same day as the Precious DVD/Blu-Ray.
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Post by Hefty Hanna on Jan 14, 2010 14:17:17 GMT -5
It's being released the same day as the Precious DVD/Blu-Ray. A-ha. This makes sense! I'm all for an AA/Precious release.
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Post by shaq91 on Jan 14, 2010 14:34:54 GMT -5
Mariah Expected to Attend the Golden Globes
Mariah is expected to walk the red carpet with the Precious cast at The Beverly Hilton in Los Angeles for the 67th Annual Golden Globe Awards on Sunday, January 17!
The awards ceremony, hosted by Ricky Gervais, will be broadcast live on NBC at 5-8pm PT, 8-11pm ET. Be sure to tune in!
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Post by Alex on Jan 14, 2010 14:36:40 GMT -5
It's being released the same day as the Precious DVD/Blu-Ray. OK. She needs all the help she can get. Even though the movie kinda flat-lined after November (only at $45 million) when it was predicted to do over $100 million after hype, buzz, and reviews.
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Post by neverduplicated on Jan 14, 2010 16:44:56 GMT -5
^ Precious has done AMAZING for a film with a mostly unknown director, an unknown lead, Mariah Carey (box office poison), Mo'Nique, and an extremely dark and depressing story. There will be plenty of people who go out to buy Precious when it's released on DVD.
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Post by weaver on Jan 14, 2010 17:07:57 GMT -5
Are you aware about the fact that there is a different person behind each user name on this forum, weaver? There will NEVER be a time when EVERYONE is happy, because each person has different tastes and expectations. I might not completely agree with AC being a sure hit, as memoirs pointed out, but he has his points and opinions and they are as valid as others. That's how life works. ??? I thought I said something similar myself earlier on...
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Post by weaver on Jan 14, 2010 17:11:01 GMT -5
^ Precious has done AMAZING for a film with a mostly unknown director, an unknown lead, Mariah Carey (box office poison), Mo'Nique, and an extremely dark and depressing story. There will be plenty of people who go out to buy Precious when it's released on DVD. Agreed. 45 million for a little indie film with the subject matter that Precious has is really good. And yes, it will sell some DVDs with all the press it's gotten. I still haven't seen it yet- I don't think it was showing anywhere near me - so I will buy the DVD. I think this may be a turning point for Mariah as far as her acting career ~ she is not necessarily going to be considered "box office poison" after this role.
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Post by weaver on Jan 14, 2010 17:11:50 GMT -5
Here's what's been bugging me, and this is really all it is: Angels Cry feat. NeYo is announced as the single. A group of people on here freaks out, the project is over etc etc etc. Then it gets changed to Up Out My Face, and we have people coming on and complaining that THAT is a terrible choice, and they are not going to support it, etc etc etc. Does b***hing about it on here change it? No. It just clutters up the thread w/ complaints rather than what I might consider a constructive discussion. Sometimes we just need to realize that there is a lot going into these decisions, and they are group-think, and Mariah has such a varied fan base that she has a lot of different people to make happy. She can't make all the people happy all the time! That's life! Even though I think you are trying to lump me into the group freaking out about the project, I agree with everything else. What were you people expecting? She already shot videos for AC and UOMF. It was pretty obvious she was going choose between the two. If she really is going with UOMF, I think that's definitely the better choice. I'm happy with it. I wasn't talking to/about you specifically, I was just pointing out that there were two sets of people geeking out about the project.
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Post by imperfect on Jan 14, 2010 19:56:39 GMT -5
Memoirs2k9 CAN post whatever he wants to, He is just voicing his opinion. He's not here presenting anything as FACTS from inside sources, or saying that whoever thinks something else is wrong. God, people! What harm does it inflict on you if he thinks ballads have sold her albums??? Is that a f**king crime??? Um... it's called a discussion board for a reason. You post an opinion, and people will agree or disagree. And not everyone is going to mince words, just as you haven't in this very post. He and you, can just as well ignore a post (if you choose) as we can. That's one of the issues I have with this board. Everyone wants to have their "opinion" without being questioned or challenged. Sorry, that's not how it works.
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Post by weaver on Jan 14, 2010 21:23:13 GMT -5
I've had a thought about the whole new remix/features project. It's like...we just got a new album a few months ago. It's underperformed, for, I suppose, multiple reasons, but it's a great album nonetheless IMO.
Now we are getting this remix album, which I consider a subset of the Memoirs album, therefore not expected to be some sort of commercial juggernaut. It's cool that Mariah is releasing it anyway, and I'm happy that I have some new stuff to listen to from her. Maybe this sort of thinking is why I'm not super pressed about the single or it being some huge hit or whatever else. Of course it would be awesome if Up Out My Face gained some traction, but I'm just happy to have another release.
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Post by neverduplicated on Jan 14, 2010 22:06:36 GMT -5
I've had a thought about the whole new remix/features project. It's like...we just got a new album a few months ago. It's underperformed, for, I suppose, multiple reasons, but it's a great album nonetheless IMO. Now we are getting this remix album, which I consider a subset of the Memoirs album, therefore not expected to be some sort of commercial juggernaut. It's cool that Mariah is releasing it anyway, and I'm happy that I have some new stuff to listen to from her. Maybe this sort of thinking is why I'm not super pressed about the single or it being some huge hit or whatever else. Of course it would be awesome if Up Out My Face gained some traction, but I'm just happy to have another release. I completely agree and I like your positivity about the whole thing. Memoirs is already good and I like most of the featured artists, so I imagine Angels Advocate will also be good. I don't have expectations for a completely new album, just an album that will complement Memoirs. So even if its not that great, I can't really be too disappointment (and I'm pretty sure it will be at least alright as I've liked most of what I've heard so far). Commercially, the remix album can only be a good thing for Mariah as it will spark more buzz about her and the music on Memoirs than doing nothing will. For those saying Mariah doesn't need another flop - the only ones who seem to be concerned about Mariah flopping are the fans themselves. Look at Mariah in the press these days, and other than her infamous speech, all the press about her recently and Memoirs has been positive or at worst neutral.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Jan 15, 2010 4:26:19 GMT -5
Has no one understood what the remix album is about? It's called Angel's Advocate, it's an attempt to save or ADVOCATE the Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel project from oblivion. To plead the case of the original album to the uninterested public.
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Post by The Art of Letting Go on Jan 15, 2010 6:40:06 GMT -5
Memoirs2k9 CAN post whatever he wants to, He is just voicing his opinion. He's not here presenting anything as FACTS from inside sources, or saying that whoever thinks something else is wrong. God, people! What harm does it inflict on you if he thinks ballads have sold her albums??? Is that a f**king crime??? Exactly! People need to get a life! ;)
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Post by weaver on Jan 15, 2010 7:07:10 GMT -5
Has no one understood what the remix album is about? It's called Angel's Advocate, it's an attempt to save or ADVOCATE the Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel project from oblivion. To plead the case of the original album to the uninterested public. Where did you get that from? I think you are reading something into the name that they aren't intending.
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Post by The Northern Star⭐ on Jan 15, 2010 8:53:14 GMT -5
Has no one understood what the remix album is about? It's called Angel's Advocate, it's an attempt to save or ADVOCATE the Memoirs of an Imperfect Angel project from oblivion. To plead the case of the original album to the uninterested public. Where did you get that from? I think you are reading something into the name that they aren't intending. Just seems kinda obvious to me.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 15, 2010 9:00:32 GMT -5
Memoirs2k9 CAN post whatever he wants to, He is just voicing his opinion. He's not here presenting anything as FACTS from inside sources, or saying that whoever thinks something else is wrong. God, people! What harm does it inflict on you if he thinks ballads have sold her albums??? Is that a f**king crime??? Um... it's called a discussion board for a reason. You post an opinion, and people will agree or disagree. And not everyone is going to mince words, just as you haven't in this very post. He and you, can just as well ignore a post (if you choose) as we can. That's one of the issues I have with this board. Everyone wants to have their "opinion" without being questioned or challenged. Sorry, that's not how it works. Isn't this the EXACT same thing I posted??? ??? ??? ??? I do not criticize people when they post an opposing view. I only fight with tooth and nail when people b***h about someone thinking differently, or when they think their opinions, for whatever reasons, are more valid than others.
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Post by weaver on Jan 15, 2010 10:23:29 GMT -5
Where did you get that from? I think you are reading something into the name that they aren't intending. Just seems kinda obvious to me. I hadn't thought of it that way at all. I suppose that could be the case. I guess it can only help, right?
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Post by imperfect on Jan 15, 2010 10:25:19 GMT -5
Um... it's called a discussion board for a reason. You post an opinion, and people will agree or disagree. And not everyone is going to mince words, just as you haven't in this very post. He and you, can just as well ignore a post (if you choose) as we can. That's one of the issues I have with this board. Everyone wants to have their "opinion" without being questioned or challenged. Sorry, that's not how it works. Isn't this the EXACT same thing I posted??? ??? ??? ??? I do not criticize people when they post an opposing view. I only fight with tooth and nail when people b***h about someone thinking differently, or when they think their opinions, for whatever reasons, are more valid than others. EVERYONE thinks their opinions are more valid than others. That's not the point. You can't have a thin skin and post on a message board. When you post an opinion, you're going to get a response. You can't post something, and then be surprised when people disagree with you, then tell people they don't "have lives" when you your self are sitting at your computer doing the same thing.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 15, 2010 10:44:42 GMT -5
I challenge you to quote a single post of mine where I said such thing...
And no, anyone's opinions are not above the others. They are all at the same level, since they are all subjective. It's different if you're talking about FACTS. The thing is that some people here like to present their opinions as such. It is not a FACT that UOMF will do better than AC, but the opposite isn't either.
Anyway, I will not respond to any post regarding this subject matter for now. It's becoming pretty pointless. End of the discussion.
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Post by weaver on Jan 15, 2010 10:49:26 GMT -5
junkiex, I dont' think it was directed at you. Someone, memoirs2k9 maybe, posted the "get a life" thing. Which is really dumb. But we have veered completely off topic at this point.
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 15, 2010 10:52:18 GMT -5
Ahh ok! I'm sorry then... :) And yes, let's just end this now!
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Post by Andy on Jan 15, 2010 10:53:44 GMT -5
Simon Cowell Wants Mariah's ex-husband for X-Factor
Simon Cowell is hoping to sit alongside Mariah Carey's ex-husband Tommy Mottola when he launches his British talent show "The X Factor" in the U.S.
The tough-talking music mogul quit his role as a judge on American Idol this week to concentrate on taking his U.K. singing contest stateside.
And he already has several stars in mind to join him on the show's judging panel - including Mottola, Paula Abdul, and British singer Cheryl Cole.
Cowell tells New York Post gossip column PageSix, "On X Factor, you get to mentor the artists, so you have more of a role. It's frustrating sometimes when you sit there and you haven't been able to change their songs, or how they perform, or what they wear...It's pointless hiring judges who don't know anything about the music business. I'll probably go and find someone who did what I did for a living. I was an A&R guy for 20 years. I thought Tommy Mottola would be a good choice. He was the guy who was the head of Sony - he guided Mariah - very flamboyant, knows what he's talking about."
Cowell admits he is also lining up two other experts he has worked with before - Abdul had a judging role on "American Idol," and Cole currently mentors acts on "The X Factor."
He adds, "I've been talking to Paula for a long time. It was always my intention in one way or another to carry on working with her... I think (Cheryl) would be great over here - Cheryl's a star."
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Post by Junkiex on Jan 15, 2010 11:18:28 GMT -5
Well, if that occurs we'll know FOR SURE that Mimi will not put a foot on that stage ever!
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Post by imperfect on Jan 15, 2010 11:51:19 GMT -5
I challenge you to quote a single post of mine where I said such thing... And no, anyone's opinions are not above the others. They are all at the same level, since they are all subjective. It's different if you're talking about FACTS. The thing is that some people here like to present their opinions as such. It is not a FACT that UOMF will do better than AC, but the opposite isn't either. Anyway, I will not respond to any post regarding this subject matter for now. It's becoming pretty pointless. End of the discussion. WTF???? I said everyone *thinks* their opinions are more valid than others, not they are... LOL. But yeah, next... It's all good. Next...
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