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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 9, 2010 19:19:12 GMT -5
I think I'll let Pen handle this one.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 9, 2010 19:21:33 GMT -5
Well, I think you see what happens when he tries. I mean, damn, the exact same site quoted the info that he said didn't exist.
Don't want to give the guy a heart attack.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 9, 2010 19:29:03 GMT -5
Well they didn't mention it the most recent time. My guess is that they changed their mind as the link you sited is a week older. If either "Mission Statement" or "Hesitate" charts before "Say You'll Haunt Me", it'll be on active rock only, and it won't break the top 40. The point Pen is trying to make is that, given the information we have now, which is different than previous information, it seems in all likelihood that "Say You'll Haunt Me" will be the first single Roadrunner PUSHES to radio. Stations may get the other two songs beforehand, but my guess is that the first song that they'll play to the extent that you'd expect from a Stone Sour LEAD SINGLE will be "Say You'll Haunt Me".
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 9, 2010 19:32:24 GMT -5
I know I feel bad for him I kinda have to defend him also. I was only saying Say You'll Haunt Me may end up being the third charting song despite its push to radio in July. Hesitate and Mission Statement must have some substance to be named as the first official two singles a week ago. If they catch on enough with listeners, the third choice of Say You'll Haunt Me may get bumped back to the end of summer.
I was only emphasizing why the topic was changed to Mission Statement / Hesitate a week ago. It wasn't made up as Billboard printed it and Roadrunnerrecords.com posted that the next day.
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Post by lockebox on Jun 9, 2010 19:33:20 GMT -5
"Say You'll Haunt Me" is the single. Full stop.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 9, 2010 19:38:09 GMT -5
They'll tell you that you're wrong though. And the link Pen posted is newer, which means as I said, THEY CHANGED THEIR MIND!!! What you said was true a week ago. It's just not true anymore. It's not a big deal.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 9, 2010 19:41:22 GMT -5
I agree, it's not a big deal. I was just showing where he went wrong by saying Hesitate never existed. I expect we'll hear it eventually if it was earlier tapped as single number two.
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Post by pen on Jun 9, 2010 20:13:32 GMT -5
Blabbermouth =! Roadrunner.
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Post by pen on Jun 9, 2010 20:19:57 GMT -5
I agree, it's not a big deal. I was just showing where he went wrong by saying Hesitate never existed. I expect we'll hear it eventually if it was earlier tapped as single number two. I'm not saying the song never existed, I'm saying it was never confirmed as a single. That never existed. The difference between what I posted and what you posted is that what I posted is a press release direct from Roadrunner, whereas what you posted is an article from Blabbermouth, a news and rumors site that is hosted by Roadrunner, but not run by Roadrunner and certainly not controlled by Roadrunner. Furthermore, the article gets information from Hard Drive Radio, who has no affiliation with Roadrunner and is bound to have incorrect data. Obviously the article I posted is far more likely to be accurate because it is an actual press release. It is absolutely possible that "Hesitate" may have been the option for the single and they changed their mind, but the point is that there are not three singles like you doggedly continue to insist. There is one single, and that is "Say You'll Haunt Me". "Mission Statement" is a teaser track that is NOT going for radio adds but radio will play nevertheless because it is new Stone Sour. But you're going to ignore all this because you're Artie and you're the only one who can possibly be right in any music related situation. God forbid you ever listen to other people on anything and use that pot-fused brain of yours to connect the dots.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 9, 2010 20:26:06 GMT -5
Reply 30 was the original source way back on May 19. The Roadrunnerrecords.com page posted it the next month. Mission Statement is already to radio or will be by the weekend. The original post said Hesitate goes out the week after. We'll see next week I guess?
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Post by pen on Jun 9, 2010 20:40:11 GMT -5
Reply 30 was the original source way back on May 19. The Roadrunnerrecords.com page posted it the next month. Mission Statement is already to radio or will be by the weekend. The original post said Hesitate goes out the week after. We'll see next week I guess? You'd seriously trust Billboard over Roadrunner? The band's own label? You know what, don't answer that. Why do I even bother with you.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 9, 2010 21:07:35 GMT -5
I believe Billboard.biz. But as mentioned, Stone Sour may have changed their minds.
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Post by pen on Jun 9, 2010 21:13:27 GMT -5
What the f**k. You're just fucking with me now, right?
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 9, 2010 21:16:34 GMT -5
They reported the dual singles May 19. You posted your link June 9. Three weeks is plenty of time to switch things up.
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Post by pen on Jun 9, 2010 21:35:03 GMT -5
Okay, switch, fine, but stop saying three songs are going to go for adds, that's what's pissing me off.
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Post by lockebox on Jun 10, 2010 17:22:45 GMT -5
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 10, 2010 18:27:33 GMT -5
I like this. Thanks.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 10, 2010 22:42:31 GMT -5
Five stars for the guitar solo. This better be tearing up active radio sometime very soon.
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 10, 2010 23:50:21 GMT -5
Maybe as the second single ;)
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 15, 2010 20:09:02 GMT -5
#47 on Active airplay today with a bullet of 111. Good start.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 16, 2010 7:31:07 GMT -5
Top 50 on Active:
0 50 STONE SOUR Mission Statement 118 0 118 0.211
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 16, 2010 15:52:54 GMT -5
Um, sorta. Close enough I guess?
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 18, 2010 9:17:24 GMT -5
I think this song will perform similar to A Looking in View.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 18, 2010 9:57:21 GMT -5
I think this song will perform similar to A Looking in View. i think it'll perform similar to Cowboy Way
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Post by lockebox on Jun 18, 2010 11:31:36 GMT -5
Haha. Yeah "Say You'll Haunt Me" will be on the chart in a few weeks, maybe less.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jun 18, 2010 13:54:32 GMT -5
Nice move so far. Up to #39 with the third biggest bullet on Active. Hesitate and Say You'll Haunt Me may be pushed back a bit if this continues into a third week growth and beyond. Heard twice today already. Nice song.
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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 18, 2010 21:34:41 GMT -5
just found this video of Stone Sour performing Bother at Download Festival. Corey was emotional, considering it's dedicated to Paul Gray.
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Post by slicknickshady on Jun 19, 2010 4:48:09 GMT -5
Powerful stuff.
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