Bullet For My Valentine - Your Betrayal

[Ron57]

Mar 9, 2010 2:01:21 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Mar 8, 2010 21:02:04 GMT -5 Ron57 said:

Eh. It was a joke saying you're probably still screwing her. xD

Oh! No, not at all. That's the last thing on my mind regarding my relationship with her as it stands. That is so not what either of us need from each other right now.

In no way was I serious or actually believed you were, I just saw an opportunity to make a funny, and it failed miserably. No harm done.

[Ron57]

Mar 9, 2010 0:04:36 GMT -5 pen said:

Mar 8, 2010 21:09:01 GMT -5 lockebox said:

:( That poor joke cost him his life.

Probably a fair trade, really.

Don't make me spank you.

[Cody]

I told you he'd get you back People around here don't tend to let stuff go very quickly ;)

[metalfan87]

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[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

great numbers for a metalcore band, it will be their biggest hit (so far)

it's kinda unusual that maybe the most known metalcore band in the US is a band from Wales

[metalfan87]

Mar 15, 2010 8:40:06 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

great numbers for a metalcore band, it will be their biggest hit (so far)

it's kinda unusual that maybe the most known metalcore band in the US is a band from Wales

beg to differ. there's Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, Atreyu, Shadows Fall, etc.

[Cody]

No I actually agree with Som3on3 especially considering there's a chance that this album can debut at #1

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

Mar 15, 2010 9:07:24 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

Mar 15, 2010 8:40:06 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

great numbers for a metalcore band, it will be their biggest hit (so far)

it's kinda unusual that maybe the most known metalcore band in the US is a band from Wales

beg to differ. there's Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, Atreyu, Shadows Fall, etc.

my friend i said MAYBE! i think BFMV along with Killswitch Engage are the 2 biggest metalcore bands in term of album sales

and I'm really wondering if there is a chance that Fever can debut at #1? that would be awesome

[pen]

Mar 15, 2010 9:58:02 GMT -5 Cody said:

No I actually agree with Som3on3 especially considering there's a chance that this album can debut at #1

There's a chance for every album to debut at #1. Doesn't mean it will.

[metalfan87]

Mar 15, 2010 10:24:28 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

Mar 15, 2010 9:07:24 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

beg to differ. there's Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, Atreyu, Shadows Fall, etc.

my friend i said MAYBE! i think BFMV along with Killswitch Engage are the 2 biggest metalcore bands in term of album sales

and I'm really wondering if there is a chance that Fever can debut at #1? that would be awesome

THAT WOULD BE COOL!

[Shadows in the Dark]

I would love to see Fever debut at #1, but I wonder what else is coming out that day.

[metalfan87]

official tracklist

1. "Your Betrayal"
2. "Fever"
3. "The Last Fight"
4. "A Place Where You Belong"
5. "Pleasure and Pain"
6. "Alone"
7. "Breaking out Breaking Down"
8. "Bittersweet Memories"
9. "Dignity"
10. "Begging for Mercy"
11. "Pretty on the Outside"

[lockebox]

Bullet For My Valentine are definitely the biggest Metalcore band out there imo.

[metalfan87]

well, no metalcore band reached the top 5 in the Top 200 chart like BFMV did.

[lockebox]

Incorrect. Lamb of God & Underoath have.

[metalfan87]

yea. Lamb of God came as close as #2 (same with Underoath)

[lockebox]

A minute ago you didn't know that ha. God bless Wikipedia ey?

[metalfan87]

Mar 15, 2010 14:56:45 GMT -5 lockebox said:

A minute ago you didn't know that ha. God bless Wikipedia ey?

lol

[Ron57]

Mar 15, 2010 14:56:45 GMT -5 lockebox said:

A minute ago you didn't know that ha. God bless Wikipedia ey?

He likes to try to sound like he knows stuff we don't.

[lockebox]

Mar 15, 2010 15:28:12 GMT -5 Ron57 said:

Mar 15, 2010 14:56:45 GMT -5 lockebox said:

A minute ago you didn't know that ha. God bless Wikipedia ey?

He likes to try to sound like he knows stuff we don't.

You're confusing him with someone else....

[Nicholas2.0]

Mar 15, 2010 13:20:28 GMT -5 Shadows in the Dark said:

I would love to see Fever debut at #1, but I wonder what else is coming out that day.

I'm pretty sure Iyaz's debut album is coming out that day. Not sure yet if "Solo" will keep the fire burning as hot as "Replay" by that point, but if so, then he might be competition.

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

i think those artists just have big singles, especially their first one

I would say that he might sell somewhere near 100k in first week
BFMV with some help they can manage to sell more, i hope!

[metalfan87]

Mar 16, 2010 3:10:47 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Mar 15, 2010 13:20:28 GMT -5 Shadows in the Dark said:

I would love to see Fever debut at #1, but I wonder what else is coming out that day.

I'm pretty sure Iyaz's debut album is coming out that day. Not sure yet if "Solo" will keep the fire burning as hot as "Replay" by that point, but if so, then he might be competition.

Iyaz comes out on March 30

[Shadows in the Dark]

Hole's new album will be out that day, wonder how much competition that'll be.

[Nicholas2.0]

Mar 16, 2010 7:23:07 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

Mar 16, 2010 3:10:47 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

I'm pretty sure Iyaz's debut album is coming out that day. Not sure yet if "Solo" will keep the fire burning as hot as "Replay" by that point, but if so, then he might be competition.

Iyaz comes out on March 30

It must've recently gotten bumped up, then. Because when Ryan Seacrest interviewed him on last weekend's AT40 (read: re-aired an abbreviated version of a recent "On-Air with Ryan Seacrest" interview), Iyaz said it was coming out April 27. Perhaps the label has already seen or forecasted that "Solo" isn't (and won't be) burning up the charts in similar fashion to "Replay," and since the album's already in the can, they just want to push it out the door as soon as possible now, before "Replay" dies off anymore and the public grasps that "Solo" will underperform. That's my outsider's take on it, anyway.

Mar 16, 2010 11:00:23 GMT -5 Shadows in the Dark said:

Hole's new album will be out that day, wonder how much competition that'll be.

I'd say 2010 Bullet for My Valentine sales easily mop the floor with 2010 Hole (read: Courtney Love) sales. You (and she!) know damn well that if she put "Skinny Little B!tch" out under her own name, like America's Sweetheart, it would be struggling right now, if even charting in the first place.

[My Life Is A Stereo]

I'd say 2010 Bullet for My Valentine sales easily mop the floor with 2010 Hole (read: Courtney Love) sales. You (and she!) know damn well that if she put "Skinny Little B!tch" out under her own name, like America's Sweetheart, it would be struggling right now, if even charting in the first place.

I agree...but its definitely going to be worth more to Courtney to release under the Hole name and why shouldn't she. It's going to sell way more just because of that and that's only good marketing. In the end most people(ie. radio listeners not on this board)could care less who's playing the instruments as long as it sounds like Hole. I can guarantee you most people would hear the song on the radio, find out its by Hole and wouldn't take two seconds to find out or even care that its basically Courtney herself.

I'm actually in that boat. For example if Smashing Pumpkins new album sounds like SP, I honestly don't care if Jimmy or anyone else is there. I know I'm minority in here on this issue but many musicians can re-create the music. Now if it comes out and sounds nothing like SP, then I will be annoyed the legacy is tarnished by Billy making his solo sound under the SP name. Make sense? Only in my head!

[Nicholas2.0]

Mar 16, 2010 14:27:44 GMT -5 My Life Is A Stereo said:

I agree...but its definitely going to be worth more to Courtney to release under the Hole name and why shouldn't she. It's going to sell way more just because of that and that's only good marketing. In the end most people(ie. radio listeners not on this board)could care less who's playing the instruments as long as it sounds like Hole. I can guarantee you most people would hear the song on the radio, find out its by Hole and wouldn't take two seconds to find out or even care that its basically Courtney herself.

I'm actually in that boat. For example if Smashing Pumpkins new album sounds like SP, I honestly don't care if Jimmy or anyone else is there. I know I'm minority in here on this issue but many musicians can re-create the music. Now if it comes out and sounds nothing like SP, then I will be annoyed the legacy is tarnished by Billy making his solo sound under the SP name. Make sense? Only in my head!

Agree with everything you've said, only, using the Smashing Pumpkins example, the further away from 2000 they get, the less "gravitational pull" the music will generally have to my heart, if that makes sense. Though I guess the real test of that will be this stuff he's doing without Jimmy now.

[jvandyck87]

The new Evanescence is another example, albeit with a much smaller back-catalogue; but Amy Lee is basically doing their new stuff on her own from what I've heard.

[Shadows in the Dark]

Mar 16, 2010 14:27:44 GMT -5 My Life Is A Stereo said:

I'd say 2010 Bullet for My Valentine sales easily mop the floor with 2010 Hole (read: Courtney Love) sales. You (and she!) know damn well that if she put "Skinny Little B!tch" out under her own name, like America's Sweetheart, it would be struggling right now, if even charting in the first place.

That's good, they definitely deserve to chart higher.