Adam Lambert, "Whataya Want From Me" Hot100: #10!

[jessicam]

Feb 25, 2010 7:40:22 GMT -5 street said:

Z100 talked about the SuBo stuff today.

And? What did they have to say?

[street]

I missed some of it but they introduced it as Adam Lambert - too much information. Then I had to leave. But they're usually big fans of his and this time sounded negative. Why attack another artist? It doesn't make sense. Just gets their fans mad at you.

[maria4hitz]

I'm glad the updates are getting better.

[foxxden]

Not for nothing for all the fret and worrying over it's mediabase top 40 peak, the song is doing quite well on the Billboard Charts. Despite the low spin increases, the song maintained decent to large audience gains. He even increased in digital sales by 18% this week.

Up 3 spots to #28 on Billboard Hot 100
Up 8 spots to #37 on Billboard Radio Songs.

At the end of the day those are the charts that usually go down in history, so that is the bigger picture.

[blue in moonlight]

It looks like he's stabilizing. Did OHP stop spinning this? We're approaching the weekend which hasn't been a kind time for this track recently.

[Ke$haStan]

I swear if this peaks at 11 I will kill someone!

[saga]

Feb 25, 2010 10:18:59 GMT -5 blue in moonlight said:

It looks like he's stabilizing. Did OHP stop spinning this? We're approaching the weekend which hasn't been a kind time for this track recently.

I think WWFM got one spin on saturday and one on sunday on the last OHP. Not sure though...

[tinawina]

Feb 25, 2010 10:24:04 GMT -5 Ke$haStan said:

I swear if this peaks at 11 I will kill someone!

What's wrong with 11? Its better than 21. LOL

He'll be fine. His label is seriously backing him. All will be well.

As far as liking him: I admit I liked him a whole lot more when he was on Idol. I don't hate him now, but I do think a less of him. However, lots of douchey types sell boatloads of records. If people like his music he will be fine.

[lucytor]

Feb 24, 2010 17:19:43 GMT -5 soundUPsceneDOWN said:

Yeah, it's their take on his personality. Nobody said their take was the absolute truth. So I'm not seeing the problem. Unless it's not okay to express any kind of opinion anymore.

Just like Adam has every right to say Susan Boyle's album is terrible and laughable and sacrilegious, or whatever else he wants to call it, people have the right to call him a jerk for saying it. Having the right to say it doesn't mean people aren't going to think you're tactless for dissing a fellow artist, a peer, in such a manner. If I recall Adam fans (and others) called Clay a jerk for what he said about Adam. This is no different.

I didn't call Clay a jerk; I thought he was well within his rights to say what he did. That's in that post you're referring to.

As far as Adam and SuBo: he gave a review of her album. Adam's mother is a Stones fan; his father is a dj who loves '60s and '70s music. He has said that he shares those sentiments. I'd guess that for someone like that, what SuBo did to Wild Horses was blasphemy.

Most people here probably know that the average critic is far less kind to an album/film etc they don't like than Adam was to SuBo's Wild Horses. I personally believe that artists SHOULD be able to critique one another's work, and do so in public, and do so as harshly as they want. LOL imo.

I love Vivaldi, and if SuBo had tremoloed her way through the Gloria in D, and sold a trillion copies of that abomination to people whose first and only experience with Vivaldi would be THAT, I'd be after her with an axe.

[Sarah.]

Still at #21 on iTunes! :]
If anyone lives in Australia, Adam will be performing on their SYTYCD next week. He's also got performances the next couple months in UK, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, and a few other places.

[aTunes]

Feb 25, 2010 10:24:04 GMT -5 Ke$haStan said:

I swear if this peaks at 11 I will kill someone!

Right now you should be more concerned with it peaking at #19. It's not looking too bright for this at the moment.

[Rurry]

Feb 25, 2010 17:34:58 GMT -5 aTunes said:

Feb 25, 2010 10:24:04 GMT -5 Ke$haStan said:

I swear if this peaks at 11 I will kill someone!

Right now you should be more concerned with it peaking at #19. It's not looking too bright for this at the moment.

Haha right? This song will be lucky to get a #11 peak. I fail to see what's so bad about a #11 peak anyway especially when your first single was a massive flop. Rihannafan just seems to have some weird desire for this to outpeak Crush though.

Feb 25, 2010 11:41:21 GMT -5 lucytor said:

Most people here probably know that the average critic is far less kind to an album/film etc they don't like than Adam was to SuBo's Wild Horses. I personally believe that artists SHOULD be able to critique one another's work, and do so in public, and do so as harshly as they want. LOL imo.

LOL, but Adam isn't a music critic, he's an artist, and artists should not go around knocking other artists' work, especially when they're new. It comes across as arrogant. You can sugarcoat the situation all you want, but he's received a lot of backlash for it and it's not hard to see why. Maybe he'll finally learn to keep his mouth shut and stop acting like he's the king of the music industry. You rarely see other, respected artists going around calling other acts' music terrible and saying they laughed at it.

[lorib0711]

I think artists do say things, I just don't think it gets blown in the media the way Adam's comments did. I think the media publishes so much about Adam is because he generates hits, love him or hate him, he brings traffic to sites, mags to sell and viewers to tune in. Even his tweets about the boys last night made were reported on media websites today.

No country artists criticized Adam after his Ring of Fire performance? It may be true but I would find that hard to believe.

Meanwhile, to get back to the music, WWFM keeps plugging along. He should hit 18 for the weekly update.

[Ke$haStan]

American Idol is loosing its credibilty. No one from last season went Top 10 on Pop. and this season it doesn't look like it will either. Jordin Sparks has fallen off the face of the planet and the hype around Kelly and Carrie is slowing down. Hoping for a better season this year!

Don't get me wrong, I love Adam, Kris, and Archie, but for me as a big american idol fan its a HUGE dissapointment for me! :(

[overboard]

Feb 25, 2010 19:17:24 GMT -5 Ke$haStan said:

Hoping for a better season this year!

haha, have you watched this season at all? Its hands down the worst the show has ever been.

Also, dont count out S8 from having a top 10 hit. LLWD could potentially go top 10 next week, and neither Kris nor Adam's eras are over yet.

[Ke$haStan]

I suppose so, but LLWD and WWFM have had EXTREMLY similiar runs to LO and Crush on pop :( and theres 2nd singles did nothing!

this season has the potential to bring out the next Leona/Jordin/Kelly: Ashlee could have extremly similiar success to Jordin and I can see the girl who sung Alicia Keys being as big as Leona but also going as far as Kelly!

[soundUPsceneDOWN]

Here's the difference between LO/Crush, their follow-up singles, and WWFM/LLWD, and their potential follow-up singles, in my opinion:

I don't think either David needed another hit because at the point their second singles were released both their albums had already made their respective labels a profit. I'm assuming on Cook's part based on his sales, but I talked to somebody who was involved with the label during ALTNOY's run and Jive had already made a profit off Archie by then.

If the label thinks that pushing a new single isn't going to get them more profit than they would be spending, then they're not going to push a new single very hard. They may throw a single out there to see if it catches (sometimes they get lucky & radio embraces an artist w/out the label really trying), but they're not going to expend a lot of money trying to get it to hit. I mean, ALTNOY had a Hot AC add date that was just pulled--it never even got sent to Hot AC at all even though it's arguably more Hot AC than pop. CBTM (for Cook) did well on Hot AC but did even worse than ALTNOY on pop. Pretty good indication that neither label really cared all that much what either second single did.

Kris needs another hit because he is way behind in album sales, and his single sales are good but not fantastic. Another hit could be the thing that jump starts album sales so Jive makes a profit off of him.

As for WWFM (since this is the WWFM thread-sorry it took so long to get here), its single sales are lagging behind its chart placement, and is only now starting to catch up. Adam's album sales are fine. I feel it's mere logic, however, to say that his album was more expensive to make than Kris's, Archie's and maybe even Cook's. Just looking at the collaborators alone-they weren't cheap. Jive is known for inexpensively producing albums--RCA is not known for that at all. So it's a guess as to whether RCA has made a profit off of Adam yet. My guess is that they haven't, and would then need to expend more resources to get Adam another potential hit.

[Maximillian]

Feb 25, 2010 19:31:48 GMT -5 Ke$haStan said:

I suppose so, but LLWD and WWFM have had EXTREMLY similiar runs to LO and Crush on pop :( and theres 2nd singles did nothing!

WWFM is his second single ;)

or third... haha

[Maximillian]

Feb 25, 2010 19:54:28 GMT -5 soundUPsceneDOWN said:

As for WWFM (since this is the WWFM thread-sorry it took so long to get here), its single sales are lagging behind its chart placement, and is only now starting to catch up. Adam's album sales are fine. I feel it's mere logic, however, to say that his album was more expensive to make than Kris's, Archie's and maybe even Cook's. Just looking at the collaborators alone-they weren't cheap. Jive is known for inexpensively producing albums--RCA is not known for that at all. So it's a guess as to whether RCA has made a profit off of Adam yet. My guess is that they haven't, and would then need to expend more resources to get Adam another potential hit.

Until RCA puts out financials, i hate going off the assumption they spent more on him. They very easily could have put that album together without spending more then Kris' -- and besides, Allison had the same amount of producer attention on the album. Especially with all the hype around Adam when he was recording, producers were throwing themselves to get in the studio with Adam. RCA could have easily gotten producers at a discount because of the attention the producers would (and did) receive.

[aTunes]

Feb 25, 2010 19:54:28 GMT -5 soundUPsceneDOWN said:

Here's the difference between LO/Crush, their follow-up singles, and WWFM/LLWD, and their potential follow-up singles, in my opinion:

I don't think either David needed another hit because at the point their second singles were released both their albums had already made their respective labels a profit. I'm assuming on Cook's part based on his sales, but I talked to somebody who was involved with the label during ALTNOY's run and Jive had already made a profit off Archie by then.

If the label thinks that pushing a new single isn't going to get them more profit than they would be spending, then they're not going to push a new single very hard. They may throw a single out there to see if it catches (sometimes they get lucky & radio embraces an artist w/out the label really trying), but they're not going to expend a lot of money trying to get it to hit. I mean, ALTNOY had a Hot AC add date that was just pulled--it never even got sent to Hot AC at all even though it's arguably more Hot AC than pop. CBTM (for Cook) did well on Hot AC but did even worse than ALTNOY on pop. Pretty good indication that neither label really cared all that much what either second single did.

Kris needs another hit because he is way behind in album sales, and his single sales are good but not fantastic. Another hit could be the thing that jump starts album sales so Jive makes a profit off of him.

As for WWFM (since this is the WWFM thread-sorry it took so long to get here), its single sales are lagging behind its chart placement, and is only now starting to catch up. Adam's album sales are fine. I feel it's mere logic, however, to say that his album was more expensive to make than Kris's, Archie's and maybe even Cook's. Just looking at the collaborators alone-they weren't cheap. Jive is known for inexpensively producing albums--RCA is not known for that at all. So it's a guess as to whether RCA has made a profit off of Adam yet. My guess is that they haven't, and would then need to expend more resources to get Adam another potential hit.

I agree w/ all of this. Cook and Archie didn't even need big hits. Their albums sold on their names alone. Kris definitely needs a followup hit to LLWD, and Adam probably does too. Without more hits to propel album sales, they're gonna be busts for their respective labels.

[Rurry]

Feb 25, 2010 19:17:24 GMT -5 Ke$haStan said:

American Idol is loosing its credibilty. No one from last season went Top 10 on Pop. and this season it doesn't look like it will either. Jordin Sparks has fallen off the face of the planet and the hype around Kelly and Carrie is slowing down. Hoping for a better season this year!

LOL @ all of this. This entire post. You act like being top 10 on a single radio format is the only thing that matters. Archie and Cook sold well enough to warrant sophomore albums and they are still around and have strong fanbases 2 years after their season ended which is more than a lot of Idols can say for themselves so I think they're doing fine. Jordin Sparks has hardly "fallen off the face of the Earth", she JUST had a big hit a few months ago. And tell me exactly how Kelly and Carrie have slowed down? Sure Kelly has slowed down from her massive 2005 success but she's much more successful now than she was 2-3 years ago. As for Carrie she's as big as ever.

As for Kris and Adam, I think they're doing alright for themselves as well. Adam has pretty solid album sales and Kris has a nice-sized hit on his hands. So really...WTF are you talking about? I think you need to think a little before you post because half of your posts literally make no sense at all.

Oh and agree 100% with soundscene.

Feb 25, 2010 19:31:48 GMT -5 Ke$haStan said:

I suppose so, but LLWD and WWFM have had EXTREMLY similiar runs to LO and Crush on pop :( and theres 2nd singles did nothing!

this season has the potential to bring out the next Leona/Jordin/Kelly: Ashlee could have extremly similiar success to Jordin and I can see the girl who sung Alicia Keys being as big as Leona but also going as far as Kelly!

Explain to me how these songs peaking around the same area as Crush and LO have anything to do with how their follow-ups will perform?

[soundUPsceneDOWN]

Feb 25, 2010 21:18:55 GMT -5 Maximillian said:

Until RCA puts out financials, i hate going off the assumption they spent more on him. They very easily could have put that album together without spending more then Kris' -- and besides, Allison had the same amount of producer attention on the album. Especially with all the hype around Adam when he was recording, producers were throwing themselves to get in the studio with Adam. RCA could have easily gotten producers at a discount because of the attention the producers would (and did) receive.

I really, really, really think it's unlikely RCA got a "producer discount." These guys want their pay day, and they deserve it. Adam is not such a huge deal that they'll give him a mark down.

I suspected somebody was going to question that Adam's album cost more. I had a line about it my initial post, but figured I wouldn't assume beforehand. Well. lol.

I'm not going to go over every single reason I think Adam's album cost more (it's all been said before). Following RCA and Jive, and seeing what RCA has had to put into Adam, makes me feel that it's a very small logical leap to say that, at the very least, Adam's album cost more than Kris's and Archie's. It's very, very, very tough for me to imagine that is not the case.

[aTunes]

Yeah, I really can't imagine any possible way more money wasn't put into Adam than Kris. I would even go as far to say more money was thrown into Adam's debut than has ever been for any debut album by an Idol contestant prior.

[Rurry]

I agree, when you combine the songwriters, the promotion....seems like a LOT of money

[poptartz]

Feb 25, 2010 17:33:45 GMT -5 Sarah. said:

Still at #21 on iTunes! :]
If anyone lives in Australia, Adam will be performing on their SYTYCD next week. He's also got performances the next couple months in UK, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore, and a few other places.

Ooh, awesome about Aussie SYTYCD!! I also just read he'll be performing on a morning show there, Sunrise.

Feb 25, 2010 19:54:28 GMT -5 soundUPsceneDOWN said:

Jive is known for inexpensively producing albums--RCA is not known for that at all. So it's a guess as to whether RCA has made a profit off of Adam yet.

Allison, who's on Jive, had virtually the same writers and producers as Adam (w/ the exceptions of I think Rob Cavallo & Dr. Luke...but she had Kevin Rudolf instead).

ETA: it's looking like Adam will play Mardi Gras in Australia with Pink!

www.starobserver.com.au/news/2010/02/26/lambert-firms-for-mardi-gras/22266

[Ke$haStan]

Wow thats the stupidest thing I've ever heard! I've never heard of more pathetic labels! Did they not think that either David getting more singles would ensure singles next time around. Both had one hit, if you can even call Cooks that. Label in no way shape or form are they going to jump on them when they finally release a new one. Look at Jordin! She had 3 Top 10s and Battlefield took FOREVER to be a hit and even became her lowest charting one! :(

[desertfloods]

Feb 25, 2010 19:31:48 GMT -5 Ke$haStan said:

I suppose so, but LLWD and WWFM have had EXTREMLY similiar runs to LO and Crush on pop :( and theres 2nd singles did nothing!

this season has the potential to bring out the next Leona/Jordin/Kelly: Ashlee could have extremly similiar success to Jordin and I can see the girl who sung Alicia Keys being as big as Leona but also going as far as Kelly!

Ashley, the one who sang Leona's song? Well, she was just eliminated

[Rumors]

I watched one AI performance this week but I did read on CNN that this top 24 is probably the weakest ever based on the performances this week. The guy that took off his shirt will probably win and I have no idea if he can even sing. This has basically been a popularity contest from day one yet. Basically, Chris Daughtry is the last "big" star to come from the show. Adam Lambert has sold well and still may end up a superstar but you have to be honest that he hasn't turned into an overnight superstar (a la Lady Gaga last year) like I think many in the know thought he might.

Kris Allen, David Cook, Jordan Sparks, David A. may or may not have long careers but none of them will be in the superstar category. That kind of thing is really difficult to achieve now even coming off AI apparently.

[Kworb]

Published Reports

POP:
21 19 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 4056 3783 273 27.862
+37 Spins
+13 Bullet
+0.140 AI

HAC:
24 20 ADAM LAMBERT Whataya Want From Me 1239 990 249 6.367
+21 Spins
-7 Bullet
+0.062 AI

Top Stations

POP:
WHTZ New York 105 (+1)
KDLW Albuquerque 93 (=)
WBLI Nassau-Suffolk 93 (+1)
KKRZ Portland, OR 82 (+1)
KZHT Salt Lake City 82 (-5)

HAC:
KVLY McAllen 71 (-1)
WSJO Atlantic City 48 (-2)
WTIC Hartford 39 (=)
KHMX Houston 39 (+1)
WDVD Detroit 37 (=)

[central80]

Feb 26, 2010 6:07:28 GMT -5 Rumors said:

I watched one AI performance this week but I did read on CNN that this top 24 is probably the weakest ever based on the performances this week. The guy that took off his shirt will probably win and I have no idea if he can even sing. This has basically been a popularity contest from day one yet. Basically, Chris Daughtry is the last "big" star to come from the show. Adam Lambert has sold well and still may end up a superstar but you have to be honest that he hasn't turned into an overnight superstar (a la Lady Gaga last year) like I think many in the know thought he might.

Kris Allen, David Cook, Jordan Sparks, David A. may or may not have long careers but none of them will be in the superstar category. That kind of thing is really difficult to achieve now even coming off AI apparently.

if the industry maintains its current downward spiral, simple career longetivity may be more valued than the subjective label of superstar... what is a superstar now anyway - the word has really lost its meaning, when people like kesha, and adam, and several others can be awarded the label without really having the bonafides at this point to back it up... any artist or musician in this day and age, including idol alums, who are able to sustain themselves via their music careers to me is successful... they're ''superstars'' in my eyes because they are getting paid very, very well in uncertain world and economic times to do what they like, unlike many of the people on this board and elsewhere who lead lives of ''quiet desperation'', and live vicariously through these people they slam and praise and worship and pick apart daily, lolol... oh, the irony, and the sadness - a lot of these artists are called ''wanna be's'', and flops by people that ''never were''... i'd love to be in their shoes, and ''not a superstar'', lol... i wouldn't care, they're getting paid