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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Mar 16, 2010 14:14:15 GMT -5
Have Deftones ever really charted well? They've always struck me as more of a cult type band that fans follow despite lack of huge radio success.
(I ask knowing I could probably find it somewhere but not interested enough to research myself)
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 16, 2010 14:58:39 GMT -5
"Change" was a huge Top 5 for them. "Minerva" made the Top 10, at least. While "Hole in the Earth" only made the Top 20, I just feel like this may very well be the right song at the right time for them to return to the Top 5 at least. And considering how little it seems to take to make the Top 5 these days...
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Post by Pipa on Mar 16, 2010 22:38:31 GMT -5
I'll go out on a limb and say this is their best single since "Change".
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 16, 2010 22:50:43 GMT -5
I don't know if you're just referring to chart success as best single, but I thought later in the 'White Pony' era, "Digital Bath" was perhaps the best single of their career. That song is incredibly intense, and builds so perfectly. I'd check that one out if you haven't heard it. Then again, judging from chart success it wouldn't be surprising that "Change" would be the popular choice for best Deftones single. I also thought that "Hexagram" (the follow-up to "Minerva") was a very good single.
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Post by crash46 on Mar 16, 2010 23:36:42 GMT -5
Yeah, "Digital Bath" was as underrated as any song released in the '00's by any band. Who knows what would have happened if it had gotten to ride the momentum of "Change" as its true followup, rather than the much more undesirable "Back To School".
"Change" was actually a grower for me. I have it down as my #72 song of 2000, but if I could make the list over again, it'd be in the top twenty for sure.
Other than "Digital Bath" though, I think their chart history historically has been about right for them, although I wish "Mein" could have done something.
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Post by pen on Mar 17, 2010 0:46:57 GMT -5
"Mein" was a bad choice for the follow-up single. They should've done "Xerces" or "Beware".
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 17, 2010 3:42:41 GMT -5
"Beware" was my favorite song on the album, but I always thought "Kimdracula" was their best chance at a second hit off the album. "Cherry Waves" wasn't a bad choice either, which ended up being their third single.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 17, 2010 3:59:25 GMT -5
I also thought that "Hexagram" (the follow-up to "Minerva") was a very good single. "Change" was great (my #18 of 2000), but I do like "Digital Bath" better. "Change" was probably, at least partially, the beneficiary of its time and place, rather than being their deserving biggest single to the detriment of everything since. See, I thought "Hexagram" was shooting the album in the foot. The song goes along pretty well until the chorus comes in and kills it. When I first put the CD on, I was super-stoked, but then after "Hexagram," I had a Krusty the Clown "What the hell was that?" reaction. And it's only inched its way up from there. "Battle-axe" would've been my choice for 2nd single. Apparently my Alt station agreed (though I didn't live in town at the time), as it made their year-end countdown, whereas they never touched "Hexagram" to my knowledge. Might as well: 01. Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away) 02. My Own Summer (Shove It) 03. Digital Bath 04. Change (In the House of Flies) 05. 7 Words 06. Bored 07. Around the Fur 08. Minerva 09. Hole in the Earth 10. Back to School (Mini-Maggit) 11. Mein 12. Hexagram Too new to be honestly placed within such a highly revered list:Rocket Skates Diamond Eyes
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 17, 2010 4:11:55 GMT -5
Digital Bath A+ Be Quiet and Drive (Far Away) A+ Bored A Change (In the House of Flies) A- Diamond Eyes A- (as of now) Hexagram A- Rocket Skates B+ (as of now-and is this technically a single?) Hole in the Earth B+ My Own Summer (Shove It) B+ Cherry Waves B+ (I don't know if this was technically a single, but I remember it approaching the top 50 of mediabase active rock as if it were the third single.) Back to School (Mini-Maggit) B Minerva B Mein B
Never heard: "7 Words" and "Around The Fur"
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Post by Pipa on Mar 17, 2010 9:12:42 GMT -5
"Digital Bath" is good, but "Change" always felt like their most "epic" song to me. Of course, I've never really been able to get into Deftones, so I mostly just stick with their singles.
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 19, 2010 9:59:27 GMT -5
did the album just leak?
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Post by pen on Mar 19, 2010 10:46:16 GMT -5
Apparently from what I've heard and read but I'm not listening to it because I have the feeling it's not a proper leak.
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Post by Ron57 on Mar 19, 2010 11:04:41 GMT -5
according to it-leaked it has.
But then again, they also said the Gorillaz album leaked when it really hadn't.
Edit: It appears that the album that 'leaked' might just be the batch of demos for the album. But then again it might not be. But either way, yes, this is the band, and yes these are the new songs.
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Post by fran182 on Mar 19, 2010 11:22:30 GMT -5
Yeah, it leaked.
Can't wait to hear it! "Diamond Eyes" is awesome and I'm pretty sure this new album will get me into Deftones. :)
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 23, 2010 18:20:09 GMT -5
album cover
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 23, 2010 20:16:25 GMT -5
That's a weird looking owl.
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Post by American Idiot on Mar 23, 2010 22:13:42 GMT -5
I finally got around the hearing this. I like that it's a hard rocking one, which is exactly what I wanted to hear from the Deftones, but I don't see it as radio friendly at all.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Mar 24, 2010 3:16:55 GMT -5
album cover Not only is that album cover badass (as are both single covers), but now that I think about it, their album covers have generally gotten better and better as their career has gone on.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 24, 2010 6:54:34 GMT -5
Top 50 on Alternative:
121 50 DEFTONES Diamond Eyes 153 30 123 0.487
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 24, 2010 9:30:43 GMT -5
album's been pushed to May 4th (same day as Godsmack's The Oracle)
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Post by fran182 on Mar 24, 2010 10:26:46 GMT -5
album cover Not only is that album cover badass (as are both single covers), but now that I think about it, their album covers have generally gotten better and better as their career has gone on. I prefer the "Diamond Eyes" single cover, but this one with an owl is good, too.
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 25, 2010 6:53:11 GMT -5
top 50 in Active
76 47 DEFTONES Diamond Eyes 162 40 122 0.334
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 26, 2010 6:52:32 GMT -5
top 40 in Active
64 40 DEFTONES Diamond Eyes 198 60 138 0.322
HERE WE GO!
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 26, 2010 6:54:45 GMT -5
That's not that impressive.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 26, 2010 7:01:49 GMT -5
While the bullet's not huge or anything, you could argue that it's sorta impressive that its first week in top 50 and the top 40 were only one day apart. Also, if everyday in a week had a spin increase like today's, that'd be a +250 bullet. So it's certainly not unimpressive for a daily update.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 26, 2010 7:03:45 GMT -5
You've got a point, but I thought the "HERE WE GO" was a tad unneccessary.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 26, 2010 7:10:07 GMT -5
That's true, but if we're gonna get that nitpicky, we might as well hire you to patrol the boards 24/7 because offenses worse than that abound.
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 26, 2010 10:14:42 GMT -5
hey, I say that because I want it to reach top 20
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Post by jvandyck87 on Mar 26, 2010 10:34:17 GMT -5
I'm with you, man. This is the freshest sounding song the active rock chart has been graced with in a long time. Unfortunately, I'm unconfident that this is what active rock radio is looking for right now.
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Post by metalfan87 on Mar 26, 2010 12:45:03 GMT -5
SHOT: Deftones - Roboshobo, dir.
•artist: Deftones •song: "Diamond Eyes" •label: Reprise •director(s): Roboshobo •production co: Symphony 19 •rep: Labuda Management •producer: Lawrence Lewis •DP: Richard Briglia •commissioner: Devin Sarno
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