Billboard Rock Airplay Charts - 11/16

[lockebox]

Nov 28, 2010 18:30:17 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Nov 25, 2010 20:21:25 GMT -5 pen said:

Active Rock needs more bands ...Red Line Chemistry...

So wait, beyond their best Alice in Chains impression ("Dumb Luck"), is there actual merit to Red Line Chemistry not evident previously?

Red Line Chemistry sound like standard post-grunge. They're just not any different to a lot of other groups such as Pop Evil, Rev Theory, etc.

Nov 28, 2010 18:30:17 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Nov 25, 2010 22:12:12 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Lacuna Coil should hopefully get a top 20 with their next lead single, given it's radio friendly enough.

See, at this point I'd go ahead and lump them in your "had their day" category with Mushroomhead and Dream Theater.

Really? Mushroomhead & Dream Theater are pretty much veterans. Lacuna Coil are only 3 albums deep. I expect their next lead single to probably make or break them on radio, actually.

[pen]

Nov 28, 2010 18:30:17 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

So wait, beyond their best Alice in Chains impression ("Dumb Luck"), is there actual merit to Red Line Chemistry not evident previously?

Dude, to me, an Alice In Chains impression is merit.

[pen]

Nov 28, 2010 18:38:41 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Red Line Chemistry sound like standard post-grunge. They're just not any different to a lot of other groups such as Pop Evil, Rev Theory, etc.

Bull meets shit.

[lockebox]

Hey I like them. They're not different to other post-grunge groups, though.

[pen]

Nov 28, 2010 19:06:41 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Hey I like them. They're not different to other post-grunge groups, though.

Only better.

[jvandyck87]

I've only heard "Dumb Luck", but based on that song alone, I'm not hearing anything special about them at all. What are their best tracks?

[lockebox]

^ "Dumb Luck"

[jvandyck87]

Well that's not looking promising for me then. Pen, is "Dumb Luck" your favorite of theirs too?

[singingrulebritannia]

I usually don't bother to check all these random names but since it's the focus of the thread right now I actually listened to "Dumb Luck". It's at least OK, possibly even truly good. Sure as hell better than 90% of the stuff I hear when I turn on the local rock station.

[pen]

Nov 28, 2010 19:46:41 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

Well that's not looking promising for me then. Pen, is "Dumb Luck" your favorite of theirs too?

I like "Vicious Cycles", "Deja Vu", "You Don't Get It", "Plastic Masquerade", "So Many Days", and "Ultragigantor".

[Nicholas2.0]

Nov 28, 2010 18:38:41 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Really? Mushroomhead & Dream Theater are pretty much veterans. Lacuna Coil are only 3 albums deep. I expect their next lead single to probably make or break them on radio, actually.

And it's my gut feeling that whatever their most recent album was was their "make or break" album for commercial success. I feel like their profile wasn't as high last time out as it had been more toward the middle of the decade. Plus the style of music they play isn't getting any fresher.

[Devin]

Nov 29, 2010 17:07:12 GMT -5 Nicholas2.0 said:

Nov 28, 2010 18:38:41 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Really? Mushroomhead & Dream Theater are pretty much veterans. Lacuna Coil are only 3 albums deep. I expect their next lead single to probably make or break them on radio, actually.

And it's my gut feeling that whatever their most recent album was was their "make or break" album for commercial success. I feel like their profile wasn't as high last time out as it had been more toward the middle of the decade. Plus the style of music they play isn't getting any fresher.

For all you know, Lacuna Coil could come out with a My Darkest Days/Disturbed/Nickelback hybrid single and storm up the chart. But then again, they could come out with a similar-to-all-their-singles progressive metal single that will peak around the same positions as their last two charting songs.

JUST DID RESEARCH:
* Cristina Scabbia said on her official Facebook page, that the band are currently composing, and that the album sounded "heavier and darker" than their previous release, Shallow Life. *

Oh well nevermind. Unless it's something like Disturbed, Alter Bridge's "Isolation" or Slipknot, it's not going to make Lacuna Coil a breakthrough hit on Active. I could always be wrong though .

[jvandyck87]

^A lot of why Disturbed, Alter Bridge, and Slipknot have their success though is because they already broke through. I mean what bands do you know with that slightly more intellectual/artsy side have emerged on the active rock scene and had substantial success, say, in the last five years? The last band I can think of is Avenged Sevenfold. Hurt sorta did, but for only one single that was pretty standard fare radio rock. I think the point that Nick is making is a fair one in the sense that Lacuna Coil needed to get in the door faster to get past the wall that they've set for themselves. If they dumped their mediocre-at-best dude singer from their next album's lead single, that might help matters as well.

At the same time, the singles off Lacuna Coil's most recent effort were their best chart performers to date, and there's no reason that they couldn't muster a top 20 off the next album with a strong lead single. But these days, a top 20 song on active rock isn't exactly a mainstream hit as far as the # of audience impressions it makes.

[lockebox]

^ You make a good point about the male lead single. I am not a fan of his at all. And yes with a strong lead single a top twenty is possible. It'll probably either flop all together or be a decent sized-hit. Yeah, it takes what? 500 spins to reach the top 20 these days.

[singingrulebritannia]

1 2 3 17 World So Cold, Three Days Grace
2 1 1 23 Porn Star Dancing, My Darkest Days Featuring Zakk Wylde
3 3 2 21 Say You'll Haunt Me, Stone Sour
4 5 5 13 The Sex Is Good, Saving Abel
5 4 4 21 Love-Hate-Sex-Pain, Godsmack
6 6 9 7 Isolation, Alter Bridge
7 8 10 8 The Animal, Disturbed
8 9 12 16 Turn So Cold, Drowning Pool
9 7 6 23 Shoot It Out, 10 Years
10 10 11 10 All American Nightmare, Hinder
11 14 20 6 Welcome To The Family, Avenged Sevenfold
12 15 19 9 Far From Home, Five Finger Death Punch
13 17 16 28 Bad Company, Five Finger Death Punch
14 13 14 28 Nightmare, Avenged Sevenfold
15 11 8 23 End Of Me, Apocalyptica Featuring Gavin Rossdale
16 16 13 24 Another Way To Die, Disturbed
17 19 23 14 Sound Off, Trapt
18 21 22 8 Awake And Alive, Skillet
19 12 7 24 Kick In The Teeth, Papa Roach
20 23 24 11 Hold On, All That Remains
21 25 26 8 Dead, Buckcherry
22 20 18 11 Born Free, Kid Rock
23 26 25 20 Maybe, Sick Puppies
24 24 21 17 Forever, Sevendust
25 22 17 15 Life Won't Wait, Ozzy Osbourne
26 27 27 11 Bittersweet Memories, Bullet For My Valentine
27 29 29 8 You've Seen The Butcher, Deftones
28 18 15 16 Living In A Dream, Finger Eleven
29 28 28 9 Issues, Escape The Fate
30 31 31 6 Last Man Standing, Pop Evil
31 30 30 9 Radioactive, Kings Of Leon
32 34 37 4 Diamond Eyes (Boom-Lay Boom-Lay Boom), Shinedown
33 32 35 3 Runaway, Hail the Villain
34 33 32 5 Appetite, The Gracious Few
35 37 40 3 All I Want, A Day To Remember
36 35 33 8 Whiskey Walk, American Bang
37 36 38 3 Justice, Rev Theory
38 39 34 5 Full Of Regret, Danko Jones
39 40 2 Hesitate, Stone Sour
40 NEW 1 Better Man, HellYeah

[singingrulebritannia]

I have way too much to do today so this is probably all you're getting from me. I actually encourage whoever reformatted it last time to do so again, but without the retitling because meh

1 1 2 18 World So Cold, Three Days Grace
2 2 1 24 Porn Star Dancing, My Darkest Days Featuring Zakk Wylde
3 4 5 14 The Sex Is Good, Saving Abel
4 3 3 22 Say You'll Haunt Me, Stone Sour
5 7 8 9 The Animal, Disturbed
6 6 6 8 Isolation, Alter Bridge
7 5 4 22 Love-Hate-Sex-Pain, Godsmack
8 8 9 17 Turn So Cold, Drowning Pool
9 10 10 11 All American Nightmare, Hinder
10 11 14 7 Welcome To The Family, Avenged Sevenfold
11 12 15 10 Far From Home, Five Finger Death Punch
12 9 7 24 Shoot It Out, 10 Years
13 13 17 29 Bad Company, Five Finger Death Punch
14 16 16 25 Another Way To Die, Disturbed
15 14 13 29 Nightmare, Avenged Sevenfold
16 17 19 15 Sound Off, Trapt
17 18 21 9 Awake And Alive, Skillet
18 20 23 12 Hold On, All That Remains
19 15 11 24 End Of Me, Apocalyptica Featuring Gavin Rossdale
20 21 25 9 Dead, Buckcherry
21 26 27 12 Bittersweet Memories, Bullet For My Valentine
22 22 20 12 Born Free, Kid Rock
23 27 29 9 You've Seen The Butcher, Deftones
24 32 34 5 Diamond Eyes (Boom-Lay Boom-Lay Boom), Shinedown
25 25 22 16 Life Won't Wait, Ozzy Osbourne
26 30 31 7 Last Man Standing, Pop Evil
27 29 28 10 Issues, Escape The Fate
28 24 24 18 Forever, Sevendust
29 34 33 6 Appetite, The Gracious Few
30 33 32 4 Runaway, Hail the Villain
31 37 36 4 Justice, Rev Theory
32 39 40 3 Hesitate, Stone Sour
33 28 18 17 Living In A Dream, Finger Eleven
34 35 37 4 All I Want, A Day To Remember
35 31 30 10 Radioactive, Kings Of Leon
36 NEW -- 1 Shake Me Down, Cage The Elephant
37 36 35 9 Whiskey Walk, American Bang
38 40 -- 2 Better Man, HellYeah
39 RE-ENTRY -- 3 Big Enough, Taddy Porter
40 38 39 6 Full Of Regret, Danko Jones

[singingrulebritannia]

Christmas Chart whee

1 1 1 19 World So Cold, Three Days Grace
2 3 4 15 The Sex Is Good, Saving Abel
3 2 2 25 Porn Star Dancing, My Darkest Days Featuring Zakk Wylde
4 4 3 23 Say You'll Haunt Me, Stone Sour
5 6 6 9 Isolation, Alter Bridge
6 5 7 10 The Animal, Disturbed
7 7 5 23 Love-Hate-Sex-Pain, Godsmack
8 9 10 12 All American Nightmare, Hinder
9 8 8 18 Turn So Cold, Drowning Pool
10 10 11 8 Welcome To The Family, Avenged Sevenfold
11 11 12 11 Far From Home, Five Finger Death Punch
12 17 18 10 Awake And Alive, Skillet
13 13 13 30 Bad Company, Five Finger Death Punch
14 18 20 13 Hold On, All That Remains
15 15 14 30 Nightmare, Avenged Sevenfold
16 16 17 16 Sound Off, Trapt
17 14 16 26 Another Way To Die, Disturbed
18 12 9 25 Shoot It Out, 10 Years
19 24 32 6 Diamond Eyes (Boom-Lay Boom-Lay Boom), Shinedown
20 20 21 10 Dead, Buckcherry
21 23 27 10 You've Seen The Butcher, Deftones
22 21 26 13 Bittersweet Memories, Bullet For My Valentine
23 26 30 8 Last Man Standing, Pop Evil
24 27 29 11 Issues, Escape The Fate
25 22 22 13 Born Free, Kid Rock
26 25 25 17 Life Won't Wait, Ozzy Osbourne
27 32 39 4 Hesitate, Stone Sour
28 36 0 2 Shake Me Down, Cage The Elephant
29 29 34 7 Appetite, The Gracious Few
30 31 37 5 Justice, Rev Theory
31 NEW 1 Burn, Papa Roach
32 30 33 5 Runaway, Hail the Villain
33 28 24 19 Forever, Sevendust
34 34 35 5 All I Want, A Day To Remember
35 38 40 3 Better Man, HellYeah
36 37 36 10 Whiskey Walk, American Bang
37 39 0 4 Big Enough, Taddy Porter
38 40 38 7 Full Of Regret, Danko Jones
39 NEW 1 Gypsy Woman, Jonathan Tyler & The Northern Lights
40 35 31 11 Radioactive, Kings Of Leon

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

does anyone know where to find the top active rock songs of the year or the BB Mainstream Rock of the year??? if so please let me know, thanks in advance

[jvandyck87]

AllAccess has a rolling Year-To-Date option on all their mediabase charts, and at this point, that should be pretty darn close to the end of the year numbers.

[Devin]

pdf.mediabase.com/YearEnd10/YearEnd10.pdf

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

thanks a lot DjO and jvandyck87!

[Devin]

I'm going to post the chart here anyways for alt and active

[singingrulebritannia]

1 1 1 20 World So Cold, Three Days Grace
2 2 3 16 The Sex Is Good, Saving Abel
3 6 5 11 The Animal, Disturbed
4 5 6 10 Isolation, Alter Bridge
5 3 2 26 Porn Star Dancing, My Darkest Days Featuring Zakk Wylde
6 4 4 24 Say You'll Haunt Me, Stone Sour
7 8 9 13 All American Nightmare, Hinder
8 10 10 9 Welcome To The Family, Avenged Sevenfold
9 7 7 24 Love-Hate-Sex-Pain, Godsmack
10 9 8 19 Turn So Cold, Drowning Pool
11 11 11 12 Far From Home, Five Finger Death Punch
12 12 17 11 Awake And Alive, Skillet
13 14 18 14 Hold On, All That Remains
14 19 24 7 Diamond Eyes (Boom-Lay Boom-Lay Boom), Shinedown
15 15 15 31 Nightmare, Avenged Sevenfold
16 13 13 31 Bad Company, Five Finger Death Punch
17 20 20 11 Dead, Buckcherry
18 17 14 27 Another Way To Die, Disturbed
19 16 16 17 Sound Off, Trapt
20 21 23 11 You've Seen The Butcher, Deftones
21 23 26 9 Last Man Standing, Pop Evil
22 28 36 3 Shake Me Down, Cage The Elephant
23 22 21 14 Bittersweet Memories, Bullet For My Valentine
24 31 0 2 Burn, Papa Roach
25 27 32 5 Hesitate, Stone Sour
26 24 27 12 Issues, Escape The Fate
27 30 31 6 Justice, Rev Theory
28 26 25 18 Life Won't Wait, Ozzy Osbourne
29 35 38 4 Better Man, HellYeah
30 34 34 6 All I Want, A Day To Remember
31 25 22 14 Born Free, Kid Rock
32 32 30 6 Runaway, Hail the Villain
33 29 29 8 Appetite, The Gracious Few
34 37 39 5 Big Enough, Taddy Porter
35 39 0 2 Gypsy Woman, Jonathan Tyler & The Northern Lights
36 -- -- 1 We've Got A Situation Here, The Damned Things
37 33 28 20 Forever, Sevendust
38 0 0 1 XM@$, Corey Taylor
39 40 35 12 Radioactive, Kings Of Leon
40 36 37 11 Whiskey Walk, American Bang

I've never heard "XM@$" but I have a bad feeling about it.

[singingrulebritannia]

1 1 1 21 World So Cold, Three Days Grace
2 2 2 17 The Sex Is Good, Saving Abel
3 4 5 11 Isolation, Alter Bridge
4 3 6 12 The Animal, Disturbed
5 5 3 27 Porn Star Dancing, My Darkest Days Featuring Zakk Wylde
6 6 4 25 Say You'll Haunt Me, Stone Sour
7 8 10 10 Welcome To The Family, Avenged Sevenfold
8 7 8 14 All American Nightmare, Hinder
9 10 9 20 Turn So Cold, Drowning Pool
10 11 11 13 Far From Home, Five Finger Death Punch
11 9 7 25 Love-Hate-Sex-Pain, Godsmack
12 12 12 12 Awake And Alive, Skillet
13 14 19 8 Diamond Eyes (Boom-Lay Boom-Lay Boom), Shinedown
14 13 14 15 Hold On, All That Remains
15 15 15 32 Nightmare, Avenged Sevenfold
16 16 13 32 Bad Company, Five Finger Death Punch
17 18 17 28 Another Way To Die, Disturbed
18 20 21 12 You've Seen The Butcher, Deftones
19 17 20 12 Dead, Buckcherry
20 19 16 18 Sound Off, Trapt
21 24 31 3 Burn, Papa Roach
22 21 23 10 Last Man Standing, Pop Evil
23 22 28 4 Shake Me Down, Cage The Elephant
24 23 22 15 Bittersweet Memories, Bullet For My Valentine
25 25 27 6 Hesitate, Stone Sour
26 26 24 13 Issues, Escape The Fate
27 27 30 7 Justice, Rev Theory
28 30 34 7 All I Want, A Day To Remember
29 31 25 15 Born Free, Kid Rock
30 32 32 7 Runaway, Hail the Villain
31 29 35 5 Better Man, HellYeah
32 28 26 19 Life Won't Wait, Ozzy Osbourne
33 33 29 9 Appetite, The Gracious Few
34 35 39 3 Gypsy Woman, Jonathan Tyler & The Northern Lights
35 34 37 6 Big Enough, Taddy Porter
36 36 0 2 We've Got A Situation Here, The Damned Things
37 38 0 2 XM@$, Corey Taylor
38 39 40 13 Radioactive, Kings Of Leon
39 40 36 12 Whiskey Walk, American Bang
40 RE-ENTRY 8 Full Of Regret, Danko Jones

[singingrulebritannia]

As of now, the chart for 1/15 still has not appeared on billboard.biz...

[rockmaniac]

how long will it be? we could see at least 1 debut and a new #1

[singingrulebritannia]

Here we are!

1 2 2 18 The Sex Is Good, Saving Abel
2 1 1 22 World So Cold, Three Days Grace
3 3 4 12 Isolation, Alter Bridge
4 4 3 13 The Animal, Disturbed
5 5 5 28 Porn Star Dancing, My Darkest Days Featuring Zakk Wylde
6 6 6 26 Say You'll Haunt Me, Stone Sour
7 7 8 11 Welcome To The Family, Avenged Sevenfold
8 8 7 15 All American Nightmare, Hinder
9 10 11 14 Far From Home, Five Finger Death Punch
10 11 9 26 Love-Hate-Sex-Pain, Godsmack
11 9 10 21 Turn So Cold, Drowning Pool
12 12 12 13 Awake And Alive, Skillet
13 13 14 9 Diamond Eyes (Boom-Lay Boom-Lay Boom), Shinedown
14 14 13 16 Hold On, All That Remains
15 15 15 33 Nightmare, Avenged Sevenfold
16 16 16 33 Bad Company, Five Finger Death Punch
17 17 18 29 Another Way To Die, Disturbed
18 18 20 13 You've Seen The Butcher, Deftones
19 21 24 4 Burn, Papa Roach
20 25 25 7 Hesitate, Stone Sour
21 19 17 13 Dead, Buckcherry
22 20 19 19 Sound Off, Trapt
23 23 22 5 Shake Me Down, Cage The Elephant
24 22 21 11 Last Man Standing, Pop Evil
25 24 23 16 Bittersweet Memories, Bullet For My Valentine
26 27 27 8 Justice, Rev Theory
27 26 26 14 Issues, Escape The Fate
28 31 29 6 Better Man, HellYeah
29 29 31 16 Born Free, Kid Rock
30 32 28 20 Life Won't Wait, Ozzy Osbourne
31 28 30 8 All I Want, A Day To Remember
32 30 32 8 Runaway, Hail the Villain
33 33 33 10 Appetite, The Gracious Few
34 36 36 3 We've Got A Situation Here, The Damned Things
35 34 35 4 Gypsy Woman, Jonathan Tyler & The Northern Lights
36 35 34 7 Big Enough, Taddy Porter
37 38 39 14 Radioactive, Kings Of Leon
38 39 40 13 Whiskey Walk, American Bang
39 RE-ENTRY 3 Waiting For The End, Linkin Park
40 RE-ENTRY 18 Living In A Dream, Finger Eleven

[Devin]

at Finger Eleven re-entering

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

wow saving abel #1, didn't expect that!

[rockmaniac]

Jan 6, 2011 14:08:51 GMT -5 Devin said:

at Finger Eleven re-entering

which is the reason New Medicine got robbed