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Post by metalfan87 on Jun 29, 2010 16:33:07 GMT -5
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1. All Night Long 2. It's A Party 3. These Things 4. Oh My Lord 5. Recovery 6. Never Say Never 7. I Want You 8. Liberty 9. Our World 10. Bliss 11. Dead
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Post by metalfan87 on Jul 14, 2010 17:52:41 GMT -5
just heard the album. kinda the same as Black Butterfly
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Post by rockmaniac on Aug 6, 2010 16:53:57 GMT -5
album's projected to sell 25-30K, according to HDD
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 6, 2010 18:18:57 GMT -5
just heard the album. kinda the same as Black Butterfly And they advertised it as being "the next logical step in our evolution." Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Pipa on Aug 6, 2010 20:04:43 GMT -5
just heard the album. kinda the same as Black Butterfly And they advertised it as being "the next logical step in our evolution." If "All Night Long" is an indication of the album as a whole and doesn't include misogynist rock anthems for people who don't know what a rock anthem is, then it really is.
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 6, 2010 22:08:47 GMT -5
And they advertised it as being "the next logical step in our evolution." If "All Night Long" is an indication of the album as a whole and doesn't include misogynist rock anthems for people who don't know what a rock anthem is, then it really is. Touché! ;) I actually like Buckcherry's style overall. It's clear in interviews Josh Todd is a still water running deep and just because he writes about crazy B's and loving cocaine doesn't mean it's meant to be taken seriously, especially when considering Todd has proven just as efficient in writing thought-provoking songs based on books he reads. I just believe Buckcherry grossly exaggerated the claim they were going to evolve musically and artistically this era. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by Pipa on Aug 7, 2010 16:41:00 GMT -5
If "All Night Long" is an indication of the album as a whole and doesn't include misogynist rock anthems for people who don't know what a rock anthem is, then it really is. Touché! ;) I actually like Buckcherry's style overall. It's clear in interviews Josh Todd is a still water running deep and just because he writes about crazy B's and loving cocaine doesn't mean it's meant to be taken seriously, especially when considering Todd has proven just as efficient in writing thought-provoking songs based on books he reads. Buckcherry has some great album tracks and one-off singles, and I know it can't be taken seriously, but that still doesn't mean I don't find "Crazy Bitch" and "Too Drunk" to be the worst of their genre. Especially when I know with songs like this, "Lit Up" and "Ridin" that they can do the party song much better.
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 7, 2010 17:53:33 GMT -5
Touché! ;) I actually like Buckcherry's style overall. It's clear in interviews Josh Todd is a still water running deep and just because he writes about crazy B's and loving cocaine doesn't mean it's meant to be taken seriously, especially when considering Todd has proven just as efficient in writing thought-provoking songs based on books he reads. Buckcherry has some great album tracks and one-off singles, and I know it can't be taken seriously, but that still doesn't mean I don't find "Crazy Bitch" and "Too Drunk" to be the worst of their genre. Especially when I know with songs like this, "Lit Up" and "Ridin" that they can do the party song much better. "Crazy B****" is a guilty pleasure of mine because, as cringe-worthy as the lyrics are, it's not pretending to be something it isn't or anything important................. and its epic feel, attitude and undeniable riff potency just makes it one of the more compelling anthems to have hit big on Active Rock in recent memory. I completely agree about "Too Drunk" though. That single had an incredibly short chart life because unlike "Crazy B****", the track lacked hunger. It lacked attitude. It lacked that exciting epic production ambiance. It was a messy track that featured Josh Todd wallowing in self-pity. Who wants to hear that from Buckcherry? I don't see anything all that exciting about this track or "Ridin'", to be honest. I feel "All Night Long", despite having a tight hook, is thematically bland, as though radio executives urged Buckcherry to spay and neuter their lyrics in a bid to appeal to a wider range of listeners, and they caved into their demands and went with tired rock and roll declarative statements. It's not that "All Night Long" is a bad song by any means, just a more forgettable one. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by pen on Aug 7, 2010 18:27:42 GMT -5
Buckcherry must have not liked "Too Drunk" either since they replaced it with "Highway Star" on later pressings of Black Butterfly. It doesn't look like they've played "Too Drunk" live since mid-2009 either but they've played "Highway Star" on all their shows afterward.
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 7, 2010 19:05:49 GMT -5
Buckcherry must have not liked "Too Drunk" either since they replaced it with "Highway Star" on later pressings of Black Butterfly. It doesn't look like they've played "Too Drunk" live since mid-2009 either but they've played "Highway Star" on all their shows afterward. I actually think "Talk to Me" would have been an effective lead single. It wastes no time getting to business with the raw energy and dynamism, and also has that sleaziness intact in the lyrics while also being as melodic as Buckcherry rockers come. It would have been perfect, yet they held it over as a fourth single release. I agree with them releasing "Rescue Me" afterward, and then would have went with a joint release of "Tired of You" to the rock stations and "Rose" to the Top 40 stations. Then, if either single had notable success, I'd finally release "Imminent Bailout" as the final rock-only single to make things interesting (gotta love the ending of that song). Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by pen on Aug 7, 2010 21:55:11 GMT -5
I was so mad when they released "Talk To Me" instead of "Tired Of You". That song was made for rock radio.
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Post by Pipa on Aug 7, 2010 22:52:07 GMT -5
I don't see anything all that exciting about this track or "Ridin'", to be honest. I feel "All Night Long", despite having a tight hook, is thematically bland, as though radio executives urged Buckcherry to spay and neuter their lyrics in a bid to appeal to a wider range of listeners, and they caved into their demands and went with tired rock and roll declarative statements. It's not that "All Night Long" is a bad song by any means, just a more forgettable one. That is EXACTLY why I love this song. It plays it safe, but it's also a complete throwback to the party songs bands like Trooper and Nazareth would make in the 70's. Of course, I'm a sucker for that type of music, but that's why it holds such a soft spot in my heart.
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Post by rockmaniac on Aug 27, 2010 18:43:55 GMT -5
I think Our World should be the next single
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Post by American Idiot on Aug 27, 2010 23:57:19 GMT -5
I think Our World should be the next single Not a bad choice.
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 28, 2010 0:07:06 GMT -5
I think Our World should be the next single I think it's the worst possible track they can service to Active Rock from this album. I don't think the lyrical content will sound authentic to some of their core listeners. It'll feel like their attempt at an "If Everyone Cared". Plus, the sound is overall too subdued for the format. Their most hard-core fans are overall going to want "Recovery" next, and can also settle for "It's A Party" or "Oh My Lord". They can also go for a joint release and push "I Want You" or "Bliss" to the Adult Top 40 in their latest attempt for another crossover hit. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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Post by lockebox on Aug 29, 2010 20:30:32 GMT -5
There's not really that many options for a second single, other than "Recovery" & "It's a Party". Both of which has some very catchy melodies and once again, those AC/DC-like riffs.
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Post by rockmaniac on Aug 29, 2010 21:16:18 GMT -5
just heard a snippet of the song while watching Rays-Red Sox
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Post by singingsparrow on Aug 29, 2010 23:40:08 GMT -5
There's not really that many options for a second single, other than "Recovery" & "It's a Party". Both of which has some very catchy melodies and once again, those AC/DC-like riffs. "Recovery" is their best bet if their intention is to appeal to the more hard-core constituency of their base, while "It's A Party" would make more sense if they're still aiming to appeal to listeners who like a little more melody to their rock. Either one makes sense, though I'd prefer "Recovery" myself in that "It's A Party" feels a little too close to "All Night Long". Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus
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