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Post by ƒreakshow on May 8, 2010 18:41:11 GMT -5
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Post by r.enato on May 8, 2010 18:41:23 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2010 18:42:17 GMT -5
Well I hope said poster gives an apology for that comment. How disgusting. But we've already got our point across to them, let's move on.. :) I hope KC gives an apology for that song. Those lyrics are what's disgusting. Did the stans actually bother to read the lyrics? Since when is it OK to be totally disrespectful to another human being like that? Kelly is pathetic, and I'm calling her out for it since most people here seemed to be disillusioned into thinking being a raging bitch is fine if your name is Kelly Clarkson. So sorry if I was a bit harsh, but someone had to be. If I'm banned for it, so be it. But it's damn frustrating how she can unload a pile of verbal feces on anyone she wants to, and all it will be called around here is a "brave display of honesty". Gimme a mother f**king break. And this has nothing to do with it being because she's going after Tedder. I have no idea where the KC stans get the idea that I'm some Tedder stan anyways. I love some of his songs sure, but dude is no Lady GaGa in my book. I'm just sticking up for the poor guy because he spent time and effort helping her create a large chunk of the AIEW album and this is the thanks he gets for it. So get a new rebuttal guys, cause that one is flabbier than Kelly's stomach. It's not as if this hasn't happened before, and won't happen again either. She'll find something else to whine and spew word vomit about soon, she always does. And why? Because she's a BITCH: Main Entry: 1bitch Pronunciation: \ˈbich\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce Date: before 12th century
1 : the female of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals 2 a : a lewd or immoral woman b : a malicious, spiteful, or overbearing woman —sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse 3 : something that is extremely difficult, objectionable, or unpleasantThis post is such a brave display of honesty.
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Post by Ace on May 8, 2010 18:52:23 GMT -5
I can see both sides of this argument, as I mildly st.an. for both Tedder and Kelegend. I can see that if she put that on her album, it'd be really harsh and yeah, he did some great work for her (Save You is my favorite Kelly song ever). If he had gotten ugly with it, then he might deserve those words. However, his statement was classy, even though it was blatantly obvious what he did. He wasn't going to publicly acknowledge that slip-up when his band had a record coming out; that's just common business sense.
On the other hand, Kelly obviously takes her artistry very seriously, and her music is an outlet for her. We don't know if she'd put WRR on the album, nor that she'd release it as a single. It could have been therapeutic for her to record it, and I'm sure she felt boxed in when she had put her heart into Already Gone, and the label was making her release it.
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Post by maria4hitz on May 8, 2010 19:02:59 GMT -5
Kelly always refers to writing music as "free therapy". She writes what she's feeling and it helps her get it out of her system. Some people write songs about rainbows and love, kelly writes about what's going through her mind. I haven't been reading this thread but in my opinion this song is not about Tedder, it could be about the music business in general. She takes her music very seriously, I respect her for that.
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Post by addicted06 on May 8, 2010 19:23:56 GMT -5
Well I hope said poster gives an apology for that comment. How disgusting. But we've already got our point across to them, let's move on.. :) I hope KC gives an apology for that song. Those lyrics are what's disgusting. Did the stans actually bother to read the lyrics? Since when is it OK to be totally disrespectful to another human being like that? Kelly is pathetic, and I'm calling her out for it since most people here seemed to be disillusioned into thinking being a raging bitch is fine if your name is Kelly Clarkson. So sorry if I was a bit harsh, but someone had to be. If I'm banned for it, so be it. But it's damn frustrating how she can unload a pile of verbal feces on anyone she wants to, and all it will be called around here is a "brave display of honesty". Gimme a mother f**king break. And this has nothing to do with it being because she's going after Tedder. I have no idea where the KC stans get the idea that I'm some Tedder stan anyways. I love some of his songs sure, but dude is no Lady GaGa in my book. I'm just sticking up for the poor guy because he spent time and effort helping her create a large chunk of the AIEW album and this is the thanks he gets for it. So get a new rebuttal guys, cause that one is flabbier than Kelly's stomach. It's not as if this hasn't happened before, and won't happen again either. She'll find something else to whine and spew word vomit about soon, she always does. And why? Because she's a BITCH: Main Entry: 1bitch Pronunciation: \ˈbich\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce Date: before 12th century
1 : the female of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals 2 a : a lewd or immoral woman b : a malicious, spiteful, or overbearing woman —sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse 3 : something that is extremely difficult, objectionable, or unpleasantSuch a well thought out post...not. Tell me something, who are any of us to say who the song is about? Everyone is saying she is bashing Tedder, but do we really know? NO. I think she is dissing the current music of late, maybe Tedder might be included, but not singled out anywhere. How you can say she is a bitch just for speaking her mind, is beyond me. She is right. Not even looking at Kellys situation with her label, but most everyone has the same problem as she does, especially in the Pop world. We've even discussed it here on Pulse numerous times. Music today isn't that creative. They do just change a word here and there. Look at Beyonce and her song "Smash into you", that was originally Jon McLaughlin's "smack into you" oh, but we change one lyric, and it becomes a new song. How many times have we discussed, Oh this song sounds just like that song? SUBG/MLWSWY/Who knew anyone? How many times have we talked about everyone using autotune because most that do, CAN'T SING". Kelly is making fun OF ALL OF IT in this song, not just Tedder. Could he be apart of the whole theme? probably, but he is part of the whole theme, and problem with music today. No one can seem to be creative anymore becuase the labels are too afraid to take risks, whether it's Kelly, or anyone else. It's the music industry. I didn't see anyone calling P!nk a bitch for "stupid girls"? Did she call out anyone in particular? NO, but she insinuated who she was singing about in her video. She was expressing what she was feeling at the time, which is what music should be, an expression of ones feelings. Must be a moron if you can't see that. mo·ron /ˈmɔrɒn, ˈmoʊr-/ Show Spelled[mawr-on, mohr-] Show IPA –noun 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment. 2. Psychology. a person of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69. Compare feeble-minded.
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Post by franklin on May 8, 2010 19:29:07 GMT -5
I hope KC gives an apology for that song. Those lyrics are what's disgusting. Did the stans actually bother to read the lyrics? Since when is it OK to be totally disrespectful to another human being like that? Kelly is pathetic, and I'm calling her out for it since most people here seemed to be disillusioned into thinking being a raging bitch is fine if your name is Kelly Clarkson. So sorry if I was a bit harsh, but someone had to be. If I'm banned for it, so be it. But it's damn frustrating how she can unload a pile of verbal feces on anyone she wants to, and all it will be called around here is a "brave display of honesty". Gimme a mother f**king break. And this has nothing to do with it being because she's going after Tedder. I have no idea where the KC stans get the idea that I'm some Tedder stan anyways. I love some of his songs sure, but dude is no Lady GaGa in my book. I'm just sticking up for the poor guy because he spent time and effort helping her create a large chunk of the AIEW album and this is the thanks he gets for it. So get a new rebuttal guys, cause that one is flabbier than Kelly's stomach. It's not as if this hasn't happened before, and won't happen again either. She'll find something else to whine and spew word vomit about soon, she always does. And why? Because she's a BITCH: Main Entry: 1bitch Pronunciation: \ˈbich\ Function: noun Etymology: Middle English bicche, from Old English bicce Date: before 12th century
1 : the female of the dog or some other carnivorous mammals 2 a : a lewd or immoral woman b : a malicious, spiteful, or overbearing woman —sometimes used as a generalized term of abuse 3 : something that is extremely difficult, objectionable, or unpleasantSuch a well thought out post...not. Tell me something, who are any of us to say who the song is about? Everyone is saying she is bashing Tedder, but do we really know? NO. I think she is dissing the current music of late, maybe Tedder might be included, but not singled out anywhere. How you can say she is a bitch just for speaking her mind, is beyond me. She is right. Not even looking at Kellys situation with her label, but most everyone has the same problem as she does, especially in the Pop world. We've even discussed it here on Pulse numerous times. Music today isn't that creative. They do just change a word here and there. Look at Beyonce and her song "Smash into you", that was originally Jon McLaughlin's "smack into you" oh, but we change one lyric, and it becomes a new song. How many times have we discussed, Oh this song sounds just like that song? SUBG/MLWSWY/Who knew anyone? How many times have we talked about everyone using autotune because most that do, CAN'T SING". Kelly is making fun OF ALL OF IT in this song, not just Tedder. Could he be apart of the whole theme? probably, but he is part of the whole theme, and problem with music today. No one can seem to be creative anymore becuase the labels are too afraid to take risks, whether it's Kelly, or anyone else. It's the music industry. I didn't see anyone calling P!nk a bitch for "stupid girls"? Did she call out anyone in particular? NO, but she insinuated who she was singing about in her video. She was expressing what she was feeling at the time, which is what music should be, an expression of ones feelings. Must be a moron if you can't see that. mo·ron /ˈmɔrɒn, ˈmoʊr-/ Show Spelled[mawr-on, mohr-] Show IPA –noun 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment. 2. Psychology. a person of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69. Compare feeble-minded. addicted that was awesome!!! i agree :)
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Post by repentyourself on May 8, 2010 19:30:33 GMT -5
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Post by kt1990 on May 8, 2010 19:30:29 GMT -5
Well I hope said poster gives an apology for that comment. How disgusting. But we've already got our point across to them, let's move on.. :) I'm just sticking up for the poor guy because he spent time and effort helping her create a large chunk of the AIEW album and this is the thanks he gets for it. But that's the thing though, he didn't spend a lot of time and effort at all. As a producer only hired to create hits, he utilizes the same formula in all his songs, the same chord progression (usually the cookie cutter I-IV-V-I), uses the same arpeggios, just in different inversions and basically just follows the same formula again and again. I fail to see how that equates to 'time and effort'. What's more, the guy is a self-aggrandizing jerk, who thinks his songs are musical masterpieces. His complete lack of self-awareness is what really irks me though. Not to mention the fact that he can't even use proper grammar when making statements. In conclusion, he's just a walking fail. Now take medications and stop trolling up our Kelly thread or you'll be reported.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 8, 2010 19:33:59 GMT -5
I wish people wouldn't even engage such hateful, obviously nasty messages as that. They serve no purpose beyond being just that-hateful and nasty.
Kelly isn't and probably never will be the shut up, smile, and look pretty pop star. I figured people would be used to it by now. She has a brain and will speak out for herself when she is wronged. I doubt she is suddenly going to stop now.
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Post by maria4hitz on May 8, 2010 19:44:00 GMT -5
^Agree LPL. I don't get why people get so upset when artists actually have something to say.
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Post by aTunes on May 8, 2010 19:44:13 GMT -5
aTunes ✔ Checked? No. Cracking up at how pressed the Kelly stans always are to defend her every move, even when they're obviously wrong ones? Yep.
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Post by repentyourself on May 8, 2010 19:48:57 GMT -5
Aw, no response for addicted06? ...soon enough, yes.
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Post by neally on May 8, 2010 20:21:36 GMT -5
Such a well thought out post...not. Tell me something, who are any of us to say who the song is about? Everyone is saying she is bashing Tedder, but do we really know? NO. I think she is dissing the current music of late, maybe Tedder might be included, but not singled out anywhere. How you can say she is a bitch just for speaking her mind, is beyond me. She is right. Not even looking at Kellys situation with her label, but most everyone has the same problem as she does, especially in the Pop world. We've even discussed it here on Pulse numerous times. Music today isn't that creative. They do just change a word here and there. Look at Beyonce and her song "Smash into you", that was originally Jon McLaughlin's "smack into you" oh, but we change one lyric, and it becomes a new song. How many times have we discussed, Oh this song sounds just like that song? SUBG/MLWSWY/Who knew anyone? How many times have we talked about everyone using autotune because most that do, CAN'T SING". Kelly is making fun OF ALL OF IT in this song, not just Tedder. Could he be apart of the whole theme? probably, but he is part of the whole theme, and problem with music today. No one can seem to be creative anymore becuase the labels are too afraid to take risks, whether it's Kelly, or anyone else. It's the music industry. I didn't see anyone calling P!nk a bitch for "stupid girls"? Did she call out anyone in particular? NO, but she insinuated who she was singing about in her video. She was expressing what she was feeling at the time, which is what music should be, an expression of ones feelings. Must be a moron if you can't see that. mo·ron /ˈmɔrɒn, ˈmoʊr-/ Show Spelled[mawr-on, mohr-] Show IPA –noun 1. a person who is notably stupid or lacking in good judgment. 2. Psychology. a person of borderline intelligence in a former classification of mental retardation, having an intelligence quotient of 50 to 69. Compare feeble-minded. To continue the discussion, Ryan Tedder, like it or not, does use the same chord progression in many of his produced songs for high-profile artists. aTunes, I am 100% sure that you will not disagree that 'Gone' and 'Halo' have essentially the same/HIGHly similar melodies and beats. In the music industry, it is generally more acceptable for an artist to rip off others' melodies or beats usually at least 1/2-1 generation after the original was released. What I find shocking is the nerve and arrogance for a respected producer like Tedder to recycle the exact same backtrack (chords, melody, and beat) from one high-profile artist to another in a span of a couple months. You and I weren't the only ones who noticed it since the press and music critics were quick to pounce on that "similarity". Further, as you know, Kelly was accused of "ripping off Beyonce's song", simply because Kelly's record was pushed back by 4 months from it's original expected release period, which interestingly happened to be the exact same period of Beyonce's record release, thereby rendering Kelly's version being the "copycat" version. Do you not agree that Kelly was essentially forced to defend herself because of the media's accusation of plagarism ? Do you or I know what occurred behind the scenes when Tedder gave her the music track that she wrote the entire song lyrics of 'Gone' to ? What we do know is that Kelly has claimed to never have known that Beyonce was given the same exact track to write to, and that she believes Beyonce likely had no knowledge that Kelly was given the same track. I find it suspiciously convenient that you have omitted the timelines and facts surrounding of the 'Halo'/'Gone' controversy in your rant. Lastly, like others have said, why are you so defensive about the lyrics of 'Rinse' being directly about Tedder ? We technically do not know that although I, as do many in the media and you, believe they are about the music business and Tedder. In addition, you have omitted an acknowledgement that 'Rinse', in it's leaked state WAS NOT FOR PUBLIC VIEWING, because it was STOLEN and not properly released from Kelly. Had it never been stolen and leaked illicitly, you and I may never have heard it, which is reason #2456 why your criticism of the lyrics to a track (that you weren't necessarily supposed to even hear, lol) bears absolutely ZERO weight. On a side note, I also highly doubt that RCA would even allow such a track on her album. ETA: Should Kelly be held to a different standard than Pink, Eminem, Jay-Z, more indie artists who also express a bold point of view ? *awaiting response from aTunes*
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Post by Gravity. on May 8, 2010 20:32:22 GMT -5
*reuses clapping gif*
That was very well said, Neally.
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Post by ƒreakshow on May 8, 2010 20:37:28 GMT -5
Prepare yourselves everyone.
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Post by maria4hitz on May 8, 2010 20:47:44 GMT -5
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Post by Ace on May 8, 2010 20:48:38 GMT -5
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Post by r.enato on May 8, 2010 20:59:08 GMT -5
*awaiting response from aTunes*
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Post by repentyourself on May 8, 2010 21:09:38 GMT -5
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Post by Typo on May 8, 2010 21:11:17 GMT -5
Reportin' all y'all for takin' this thread off-topic. kiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
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Post by ƒreakshow on May 8, 2010 21:16:03 GMT -5
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Post by beach1 on May 8, 2010 21:29:29 GMT -5
On the other hand, Kelly obviously takes her artistry very seriously, and her music is an outlet for her. We don't know if she'd put WRR on the album, nor that she'd release it as a single. It could have been therapeutic for her to record it, and I'm sure she felt boxed in when she had put her heart into Already Gone, and the label was making her release it. That's a good point. It could have just been a track Kelly wanted to do for personal, therapeutic reasons and not want to release to the public. That said, I don't really think Already Gone is a rip off of Halo. Yeah, they sound similar in some ways, but whenever I hear Already Gone I never think "Oh, this sounds like Halo!" It's a common occurrence that different tracks from the same producer have a tendency to sound similar to each other.
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Post by pyrates on May 8, 2010 22:02:28 GMT -5
Clips of all 17 songs have leaked, and apparently so has a full of Ready to Go, but I've only found a clip of it.
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Post by repentyourself on May 8, 2010 22:08:16 GMT -5
Well, since it's been posted here now... might as well share my thoughts. The clip of 'Don't Be a Girl About it' is amazing. Don't bother PMing me for links.
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Post by r.enato on May 8, 2010 22:08:24 GMT -5
WHAT???????? :o
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Post by Typo on May 8, 2010 22:13:17 GMT -5
I hear moar auto-tune.
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Post by ƒreakshow on May 8, 2010 22:14:22 GMT -5
Don't Ever Give Up On Me and Wasting Kisses are And my PM box is CLOSED.
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Post by Krim on May 8, 2010 22:16:32 GMT -5
The 2 ballads are awesome. <3 DONT PM ME.
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