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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Apr 25, 2010 16:21:07 GMT -5
Premiered today on XM. As somebody who always turned off Cryin' Like A Bitch before the first minute was over, I will give this one at least a second chance.
On a side note, Godsmack last week took over the unenviable position from Stone Temple Pilots as the artist with the most Modern/Alternative charted songs without getting to #1.
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Post by metalfan87 on Apr 25, 2010 19:57:26 GMT -5
I got good news for those who like Whiskey Hangover:
it'll be in the album as 1 of 2 bonus tracks
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 25, 2010 20:41:47 GMT -5
A song called "I Blame You".
They're really sending a 6 and a half minute song to radio? ???
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Post by metalfan87 on Apr 25, 2010 20:56:45 GMT -5
A song called "I Blame You". They're really sending a 6 and a half minute song to radio? ??? what's wrong with sending a 6 and a half minute song to radio? ask Metallica. |
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Post by pen on Apr 25, 2010 21:14:16 GMT -5
Godsmack's not Metallica.
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Post by metalfan87 on Apr 25, 2010 21:18:52 GMT -5
pen, Metallica has released songs that last 6 and a half minutes
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Post by lockebox on Apr 25, 2010 21:27:00 GMT -5
... Yeah but's that Metallica. I'm sure they'll make a radio edit for this one.
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Post by metalfan87 on Apr 25, 2010 21:31:52 GMT -5
... Yeah but's that Metallica. I'm sure they'll make a radio edit for this one. same thought here |
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Post by pen on Apr 25, 2010 21:42:33 GMT -5
... Yeah but's that Metallica. I'm sure they'll make a radio edit for this one. same thought here ...That was what I was saying. Godsmack's NOT Metallica. As in, Godsmack would never get away with it. |
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Post by thisbeautifulmess on Apr 26, 2010 9:31:57 GMT -5
[quote author=artieziff board=alternative thread=96308 On a side note, Godsmack last week took over the unenviable position from Stone Temple Pilots as the artist with the most Modern/Alternative charted songs without getting to #1.
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Wrong yet again.
After researching the R&R/MB alternative chart from its inception in early 1994 through today and using the BB modern rock chart from its inception in late 1988 through early 1994 as a predecessor (3,889 total charted songs), artists with over 10 charting songs without a #1 are as follows:
22 Korn
20 Dave Matthews Band (if I count a song charted without the band)
19 Godsmack
15 Collective Soul
15 Disturbed
14 Alice in Chains
14 Radiohead
13 Our Lady Peace
12 Chevelle
12 Killers
12 Limp Bizkit
12 Marilyn Manson
12 Metallica
12 Sum 41
11 Jack Johnson
11 Kid Rock
11 Social Distortion
10 Breaking Benjamin
10 Sevendust
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Post by metalfan87 on Apr 26, 2010 12:05:11 GMT -5
[quote author=artieziff board=alternative thread=96308 On a side note, Godsmack last week took over the unenviable position from Stone Temple Pilots as the artist with the most Modern/Alternative charted songs without getting to #1. Wrong yet again. After researching the R&R/MB alternative chart from its inception in early 1994 through today and using the BB modern rock chart from its inception in late 1988 through early 1994 as a predecessor (3,889 total charted songs), artists with over 10 charting songs without a #1 are as follows: 22 Korn 20 Dave Matthews Band (if I count a song charted without the band) 19 Godsmack 15 Collective Soul 15 Disturbed 14 Radiohead 13 Our Lady Peace 12 Marilyn Manson 12 Metallica 11 Jack Johnson 11 Kid Rock 11 Social Distortion 10 Breaking Benjamin 10 Sevendust fixed |
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Apr 26, 2010 15:13:33 GMT -5
Nope, still right. Matthews and KoЯn are tied with 17 charted Modern songs according to the Nielsen database. Looks like you made up some songs to get those numbers.
Godsmack's 18 charted singles without a #1 is still the current leader. No offense intended, but I'll take Billboard/Nielsen stats over any biased research on a completely irrelevant chart any day.
Any list that contains Alice In Chains, Limp Bizkit, and Chevelle as not having #1 Modern songs is done from the start.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 26, 2010 16:40:01 GMT -5
...That was what I was saying. Godsmack's NOT Metallica. As in, Godsmack would never get away with it. It probably doesn't matter, because I don't think that one play from Octane is enough evidence to indicate that this will ever be a single. |
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 26, 2010 17:29:40 GMT -5
Not necessarily. I'm an avid Sevendust fan, and I notice that Sirius Octane plays non-singles by them all the time. They played the tracks "Forever" and "Splinter" off their new album Cold Day Memory, and if you talk to the boys in Sevendust on their fan board, they'll tell you that they have no idea yet what their second single is going to be. Applying the same logic here, my guess is Sirius/XM realizes that there's new Godsmack available, and given Godsmack is a staple artist for the format, they might as well play it.
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Post by thisbeautifulmess on Apr 26, 2010 19:40:37 GMT -5
Nope, still right. Matthews and KoЯn are tied with 17 charted Modern songs according to the Nielsen database. Looks like you made up some songs to get those numbers. Godsmack's 18 charted singles without a #1 is still the current leader. No offense intended, but I'll take Billboard/Nielsen stats over any biased research on a completely irrelevant chart any day. Any list that contains Alice In Chains, Limp Bizkit, and Chevelle as not having #1 Modern songs is done from the start. So what am I "making up"? Song Entry Peak Alone I break 11/01/2002 34 Another brick in the wall 11/26/2004 37 Blind 09/15/1995 49 Coming undone 03/10/2006 13 Did my time 07/04/2003 16 Everything I've known 04/23/2004 48 Evolution 05/27/2007 19 Falling away from me 11/05/1999 7 Freak on a leash 02/05/1999 7 Got the life 08/07/1998 21 Here to stay 03/22/2002 3 Hold on 11/18/2007 31 Make me bad 02/11/2000 6 No place to hide 11/01/1996 40 Right now 10/10/2003 14 Shoots & ladders 12/15/1995 41 Somebody someone 07/07/2000 22 Thoughtless 06/21/2002 11 Twisted transistor 09/23/2005 9 Word up 08/13/2004 17 Y'all want a single 01/16/2004 48 Freak on a leash (unplugged) 02/04/2007 28 Personally, I've viewed Billboard as irrelevant since the day I listened to the big switch back in 1991 (even more so since for years thereafter the hot 100 ignored songs without singles), but you are welcome to follow whatever chart you'd like. I think it's reasonable that if you are ignoring R&R/MB, then we should all ignore and lock down your dyslexic threads with the song before the artist, don't you think? And if we all used the "done from the start" mindset, we'd all be ignoring most of your posts as incompetent. |
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Post by lockebox on Apr 26, 2010 20:27:03 GMT -5
22 Korn 20 Dave Matthews Band (if I count a song charted without the band) 19 Godsmack 15 Collective Soul 15 Disturbed 14 Alice in Chains 14 Radiohead 13 Our Lady Peace 12 Chevelle 12 Killers 12 Limp Bizkit 12 Marilyn Manson 12 Metallica 12 Sum 41 11 Jack Johnson 11 Kid Rock 11 Social Distortion 10 Breaking Benjamin 10 Sevendust Huh? Sum 41 had a #1 with the second single they released. This list looks made up. |
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Apr 26, 2010 21:26:56 GMT -5
When You Were Young made it to the top also. It's not necessarily made up, but it's embellished and inaccurate.
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Post by pen on Apr 26, 2010 23:29:24 GMT -5
Blind, Everything I've Known, No Place To Hide, Shoots & Ladders, and Y'all Want A Single (never even heard of this one) never charted. Easy enough to find your 17 there. How have you not heard of "Y'all Want A Single"? Do you even listen to the radio? |
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Apr 27, 2010 2:37:11 GMT -5
Huh? Sum 41 had a #1 with the second single they released. This list looks made up. look made up. He just posted all 22 of Korn's charting singles, their entry dates, and where they all peaked. He has all this information at his fingertips. And to prove you wrong, so do I: "Fat Lip" didn't make it to #1 on Radio & Records' Alternative chart. Sorry. It spent 3 nonconsecutive weeks at #2. First it was shut out by Tool's "Schism." Then it was shut out by Alien Ant Farm's "Smooth Criminal." |
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Apr 27, 2010 17:14:35 GMT -5
The argument goes on and on about two different charts. It's a non winning war.
Fat Lip did go to number one on Billboard's Modern chart. That's what lockebox is most likely talking about.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jan 16, 2011 15:37:01 GMT -5
13 Active / Mainstream station adds and 5 Alternative station adds since Wednesday. Probably, possible, unofficially ready for the big time. Potential #1 chorus here.
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Post by lockebox on Jan 16, 2011 20:10:26 GMT -5
This would be their best single in a long time. I hope it gets pushed.
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Post by arashinclowery13 on Jan 17, 2011 11:24:54 GMT -5
Love this song...hope godsmack release this song as the ORACLE third single
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jan 17, 2011 20:42:16 GMT -5
Second favorite on the CD just behind Cryin'.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jan 17, 2011 21:02:08 GMT -5
I would still root for "What If?" as it is my favorite song on the album, but the whole radio edit thing might ruin the song, and as has been pointed out back when this was a "What If?" thread, Godsmack is no Metallica.
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jan 17, 2011 21:12:48 GMT -5
Forgot it was a What If? discussion for a month or so. And more posts then, even though it's been Saints And Sinners for over 6 months. Strange.
But as stated, Metallica released some long songs and received airplay. Godsmack is an Active love the last decade, so I'd imagine they'd be just as successful.
And while on old discussions, Godsmack has since padded it's impressive record of charting 19 Alternative songs with at #1. I think they'll eventually get a chart topper on Alternative, but who else will ever get to 19?
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Post by lockebox on Jan 17, 2011 21:30:07 GMT -5
You think they'll eventually top Alt? ??? Unless they turn into Cage the Elephant, I can't see that happening. They haven't even had a top 5, infact. "Saints and Sinners" probably won't go top 30 there either.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jan 18, 2011 1:22:18 GMT -5
Not a bad choice, if it sees release. One of the stronger tracks on the album.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jan 18, 2011 1:33:49 GMT -5
Forgot it was a What If? discussion for a month or so. And more posts then, even though it's been Saints And Sinners for over 6 months. Strange. But as stated, Metallica released some long songs and received airplay. Godsmack is an Active love the last decade, so I'd imagine they'd be just as successful. And while on old discussions, Godsmack has since padded it's impressive record of charting 19 Alternative songs with at #1. I think they'll eventually get a chart topper on Alternative, but who else will ever get to 19? Yeah man, their best chance to get a chart-topper with their sound was circa 2000. Unless the format takes a massive turn, I don't think we'll ever see a Godsmack chart-topper on alternative. In fact, I think it's likely that they will never again reach the top 20 considering the current state of the format. |
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Post by (Artie Ziff) on Jan 18, 2011 14:32:46 GMT -5
I don't think they'll hit #1 with anything from The Oracle. But they've established themselves quite nicely everywhere on rock. Their day may come on Alt.
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