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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on May 22, 2010 11:49:17 GMT -5
I have a feeling this may grow a lot more as the spins mount up. It starts off pretty weak though and although admittedly it is a little generic especially compared to other Muse offerings, when the song really kicks in the beat kind of grabs you (almost sounds like the Killers). I'm afraid this song will be around for awhile though.
I'm not really on the Undisclosed Desires bandwagon. I really liked the song for a bit when I first heard, however it burned on me really fast and is way down on the overall list of Muse songs for me.
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2010 13:12:08 GMT -5
Really like this. To me they never disappoint.
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Post by American Idiot on May 23, 2010 0:36:38 GMT -5
Just heard this for the first time. It was ehhh just ok. It definitely sounds like a Killers song more than Muse. My fiancee says it best when she says it sounded like "a goddamn opera."
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 23, 2010 9:12:36 GMT -5
A little weaker than anything on The Resistance, but it's still good.
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Post by Sounds from the Other Side on May 23, 2010 16:14:25 GMT -5
I don't like this song.
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Post by llires on May 26, 2010 0:48:29 GMT -5
I'm not quite familiar with this song yet, but I love how my alt. rock station is starting to give Supermassive Blackhole a second wind while Resistance is taking off nicely.
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Post by switch on May 26, 2010 2:55:55 GMT -5
It's good but a bit uninspiring from the first listen.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on May 31, 2010 10:08:18 GMT -5
Top 20 on Alternative:
23 19 MUSE Neutron Star Collision 560 430 130 3.021
We now have 3 Muse songs in the Top 20. :O
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Post by GRRR on May 31, 2010 13:28:53 GMT -5
Uh, Muse and twilight are so tiring, this song is horrible, sorry. They should have gone with the Florence + the machine for first single, and left Muse alone. Nothing is ever going to top Supermassive Black Hole which wasn't even created for Twilight especially.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on May 31, 2010 17:58:53 GMT -5
Uh, Muse and twilight are so tiring, this song is horrible, sorry. They should have gone with the Florence + the machine for first single, and left Muse alone. Nothing is ever going to top Supermassive Black Hole which wasn't even created for Twilight especially. Yeah, its always a good marketing ploy to go with a band that almost nobody has ever heard and bypass a band that has a massive album currently out, with two number ones on alternative plus a huge worldwide following..... So a good idea would be to go with the band with minimal commercial success and would get you a cross eyed look from 19 out of 20 people (that's being generous) if you asked them who Florence and the Machine were. This song is definitely NOT Muse's best, it is however good enough to be used as a single on a soundtrack to a movie geared to young girls.
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Post by Matt4319 on May 31, 2010 18:12:31 GMT -5
It's my least favorite single of theirs since before "Time Is Running Out".
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Post by singingrulebritannia on May 31, 2010 21:07:50 GMT -5
Nothing is ever going to top Supermassive Black Hole which wasn't even created for Twilight especially. That's funny, because I hate Supermassive Black Hole. And this song wasn't created for Twilight either. They asked Matt Bellamy for a song and he pulled out something already written. Yeah, its always a good marketing ploy to go with a band that almost nobody has ever heard and bypass a band that has a massive album currently out, with two number ones on alternative plus a huge worldwide following..... So a good idea would be to go with the band with minimal commercial success and would get you a cross eyed look from 19 out of 20 people (that's being generous) if you asked them who Florence and the Machine were. Well first off, I'm pretty sure diamondz wasn't seriously saying they should do that. The rest of his post was highly opinionated, and the comment makes more sense if you think of it along those lines as "this would have been cool". I mean, Muse has been on both Twilight soundtracks. Don't you see the reasoning behind his statement? Second, minimal commercial success? The only reason Florence and the Machine isn't bigger than Muse right now is because their debut album was released 10 months ago and Muse is on album #5. Lungs went triple platinum in the UK (something Muse has never done), quadruple platinum in Ireland, and peaked at #130 on the Billboard 200. Muse had almost as much hype for their debut album in a stronger market and couldn't do that. So no, the band does have a decent following. Also, commercial success does not directly correlate with radio play these days (before you reply to this: yes, you probably know this, but it doesn't look like you put the knowledge to use). Sure, you don't hear Ms. Welch singing in your grocery store or on modern rock or pop stations that much, but f**k if everyone here doesn't like them and they didn't reach enough people to be one of the faces of the #1 "Trend You Wish Would Go Away" last year according to Pitchfork readers (conversely, see: Crash Kings). So they wouldn't have been that big of a misstep for the lead single off a Twilight soundtrack. They even fit in aesthetically if you've watched their videos.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jun 2, 2010 0:17:57 GMT -5
You seemed to have just glossed over the whole MARKETING PART. You even made my point for me, great, they have ONE album that has been not as well received in the US overall, yet, Muse, who is arguably one of the most well known newer rock bands over the last 5-7 years, has had a bunch of albums, is known as one of THE absolute best live bands going AND had actual hits in the US.
But yeah, in an american market, F&TM would be a way better choice than the established. I never said that F&TM may not be huge here in a few years after a couple albums but to hand them the keys to the city because they made one album that did well is jumping the gun. So yeah, they have had minimal success, and yes, that does correlate with the fact they are new, doesn't mean they are still largely unknown in the US.
And lastly, "Trend You Wish Would Go Away", pretty sure Muse never got that one.
I submit F&TM are flashes in the pan and although only time will tell, my money is more on them fading away to obscurity after maybe two more albums than becoming as widely respected as Muse has become. I'll stand by it and I'll eat my words in 5-10 years if I'm wrong. I honestly think they are trend band more than anything else and I'll be more than surprised if they are not a one shot wonder.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jun 2, 2010 0:55:42 GMT -5
You seemed to have just glossed over the whole MARKETING PART. Because I wasn't replying to that part? I don't care about what choice would give more reason for the marketing team to boast. Just saying; the direction the market itself is heading is more in the hands of the consumer than ever before, and F+tM carries enough potential buying power that it wouldn't be too big a difference. I agree that it isn't the right choice, but it's not the wrong choice. (anything I didn't reply to, I agree with, just so you know) Anyway, just let diamondz have his fantasies ;)
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jun 3, 2010 20:21:24 GMT -5
Diamond fantasies is what my girlfriend has.....I'm currently looking for another one.....lol
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 3, 2010 20:26:36 GMT -5
Haha announcing that you're looking for a new girlfriend on a music board while still in a relationship. Classy.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jun 3, 2010 20:33:08 GMT -5
lmao....it's a joke...completely. I've been happily single for the last year and a half.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 3, 2010 20:38:20 GMT -5
Haha dang. I was gonna say, that's up there with my friend breaking up with his gf by changing his relationship status to single on facebook without saying a word to her.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jun 3, 2010 21:19:51 GMT -5
Haha dang. I was gonna say, that's up there with my friend breaking up with his gf by changing his relationship status to single on facebook without saying a word to her. How bout changing your status to....In a Relationship....and have some other girls name there? lol
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 3, 2010 21:51:44 GMT -5
I created a fake profile for a girl, and became "in a relationship" with her. Had people going for a week. Had every ex-girlfriend calling me begging. Some people call me a genius for it. Most call me a douchebag.
Hey, My Life Is A Stereo, if you're looking for excitement, you can always pretend to change your sexual persuasion and take a swim in CHR.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 3, 2010 22:02:23 GMT -5
Also, commercial success does not directly correlate with radio play these days (before you reply to this: yes, you probably know this, but it doesn't look like you put the knowledge to use). Sure, you don't hear Ms. Welch singing in your grocery store or on modern rock or pop stations that much, but f**k if everyone here doesn't like them and they didn't reach enough people to be one of the faces of the #1 "Trend You Wish Would Go Away" last year according to Pitchfork readers (conversely, see: Crash Kings). If you want, I can dig up some obscure band and passionately defend them, too. When Florence and friends crossover to Hot AC and I hear them in a nursing home, then you have a legitimate bitch.
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Post by Gravity. on Jun 3, 2010 22:12:12 GMT -5
Haha dang. I was gonna say, that's up there with my friend breaking up with his gf by changing his relationship status to single on facebook without saying a word to her. How bout changing your status to....In a Relationship....and have some other girls name there? lol That's terrible! It sounds tempting though.
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Post by American Idiot on Jun 3, 2010 22:27:42 GMT -5
Haha dang. I was gonna say, that's up there with my friend breaking up with his gf by changing his relationship status to single on facebook without saying a word to her. That's how my friend's ex-girlfriend broke up with him by changing her status to single without any notice to him. He called her to say "What the hell???" but she just answered the phone "My status says it all. Have a nice life." He's also a really nice guy which gave her no reason to break up with him. He's still pretty upset about it over a month later. Keep in mind these are people in their mid-20s I'm talking about. Immaturity at it's finest. So, pardon my French, but she's a fucking bitch
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jun 3, 2010 22:34:53 GMT -5
Also, commercial success does not directly correlate with radio play these days (before you reply to this: yes, you probably know this, but it doesn't look like you put the knowledge to use). Sure, you don't hear Ms. Welch singing in your grocery store or on modern rock or pop stations that much, but f**k if everyone here doesn't like them and they didn't reach enough people to be one of the faces of the #1 "Trend You Wish Would Go Away" last year according to Pitchfork readers (conversely, see: Crash Kings). If you want, I can dig up some obscure band and passionately defend them, too. When Florence and friends crossover to Hot AC and I hear them in a nursing home, then you have a legitimate bitch. I don't know what you expect me to say to this other than no because your post is worthless. An inevitable crossover? A nursing home? So what? You quoted my original response to this.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 4, 2010 17:32:11 GMT -5
Who spat in your Pringles? :)
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 4, 2010 17:52:59 GMT -5
Hey once you pop, the fun don't stop.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jun 4, 2010 17:56:56 GMT -5
Who spat in your Pringles? :) Your post was dumb and was answered by what you quoted. That's all I said. It's not like "WHAT", it's just "welp ".
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 4, 2010 18:08:48 GMT -5
Haha dang. I was gonna say, that's up there with my friend breaking up with his gf by changing his relationship status to single on facebook without saying a word to her. That's how my friend's ex-girlfriend broke up with him by changing her status to single without any notice to him. He called her to say "What the hell???" but she just answered the phone "My status says it all. Have a nice life." He's also a really nice guy which gave her no reason to break up with him. He's still pretty upset about it over a month later. Keep in mind these are people in their mid-20s I'm talking about. Immaturity at it's finest. So, pardon my French, but she's a f**king bitch Wow that sucks. The case I'm talking about, she had essentially been ignoring my friend for a week and flirting with other dudes whenever they hung out, and this was going into college after a two-month relationship, so there's a big difference. How long had your friend been going out with the girl? My girlfriend just broke up with me a month ago, out of nowhere. Maybe your buddy and I should get together over a couple beers, talk about our feelings, and help each other on our road to recovery haha.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jun 4, 2010 19:56:23 GMT -5
Who spat in your Pringles? :) Your post was dumb and was answered by what you quoted. That's all I said. It's not like "WHAT", it's just "welp ". Nice try, unless you are being quite loose and somehow imagining words that aren't there. The nursing home play came from a commercially successful CD. I was quite surprised myself. A 90 year-old woman listening to Muse. We have to redefine how people look at commercial success. People don't buy albums anymore. The zeitgeist (iTunes) shows it's all about the single. It would be different if Crash Kings had more than one successful single. Nobody's going to pay 12-15 bucks for one proven song in a failing economy. Radio play is more crucial than ever.
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Post by singingrulebritannia on Jun 5, 2010 0:16:25 GMT -5
I don't think you know what I'm saying here. Forget about what Uprising did for a second. Uprising was pretty much as close to straight-up pop rock as Muse has made thus far (thus it was an inevitable crossover). What I'm getting at is, bands can be successful without this success being parroted by media that is designed to praise pop music. We don't know whether Florence is as big a digital single seller as it is an album seller yet because they're out of their first era and didn't get huge promotion for the singles (though they did very well in the UK), but from the numbers the album did, being a new act and all, they seem to have a good chance of selling albums whenever they decide to release the next one. But I'm guessing the first single from their next album is going to grab some pretty impressive first-week sales itself, because they have a following that stays in tune with new releases closely. Florence gathered this following by making good music, and music that they wanted to make.
I mentioned Crash Kings because they're making music that fits a pop aesthetic the media is currently promoting. So no wonder Alternative is playing their songs. Not only is their album flopping, though, but so are the singles digitally. Even when "Mountain Man" was at its spin peak, I never saw it once on the iTunes 200. So I'm saying, going with the band that's creating buzz with consumers thesmselves would have been a good decision, and this tap can't be hand waved because they don't have pop media behind them yet. It probably wouldn't have been the best decision, but who knows? Florence might have notched a top 75, even 50 hit with the digital sales. That's how Uprising achieved top 40, after all, in conjunction with just one faithful format.
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