Cerbius
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Post by Cerbius on Jun 13, 2010 18:38:15 GMT -5
Bionic sold 24300 in the UK Lowest #1 this year
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Post by brianpk80 on Jun 13, 2010 18:57:13 GMT -5
Oh well. No matter how much we discuss it or who we blame we cannot go back to a year ago or whatever and change how the era went. LPL, what you write about this era strikes me as entirely correct. While I love dancing to NMT when it comes on at the club, the "radio-friendly" last-minute reworking of the album confused and degraded the vision of the original project, which I also think was complete last year. There's a lesson to be learned in all of this. Trying to be something one is not is a recipe for both commercial and critical failure. An audience can sense on a gut level when a performer is being inauthentic. It's still my favorite album of the year since most of the raw material is there and I can omit the more embarrassing moments in my playlists.
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Post by Junkiex on Jun 13, 2010 19:58:45 GMT -5
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Post by tamed09 on Jun 13, 2010 20:06:56 GMT -5
Behind The Music is On!!!!
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Post by Baby In a New Dress on Jun 13, 2010 20:17:56 GMT -5
Scorpion weighs in:
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Linnethia Monique
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jun 13, 2010 20:43:42 GMT -5
Damn her and Jordan have been together for 8 years?! Time goes by so quick.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Jun 13, 2010 20:55:56 GMT -5
Behind The Music is On!!!! Yay but the audio on my televizzle is messed up and drops out every once in a while... Not God bless TimeWarner Cable -- God DAYUM TimeWarner Cable!!! >:(
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Post by franklin on Jun 13, 2010 21:03:25 GMT -5
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jun 13, 2010 21:07:18 GMT -5
Is it weird that both MTV and VH1 are playing Storytellers at the same time?
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Post by grouper6 on Jun 13, 2010 21:13:19 GMT -5
Christina needs Clive Davis. He saved Whitney's last album. She had a great debut without a hit single. Whitney hadn't even a video out or real teeth. In the other hand Christina is so f**kin' pretty. She is the Marilyn Monroe of this generation. Clive and Diane Warren could save her career easily Clive Davis did not save Whitney. They are a team and have worked as a team for decades. Whitney had 2 hits on the format that the singles were worked i.e urban/AC and a moderate hit on A/C. She did very few promo appearances and i'd bet that if she had done more, she would have sold about 1.3mil in the US instead of 960k. She's done amazing selling around 1.8m WW and shipping 2.5mil, #1 in 8 countries, #1 in the US, #5 in England and a top 3 song there as well with Million Dollar Bill. The thing with Whitney is that people still care about her and she still has a very loyal base both in the US and abroad. In addition, Arista, knew who her base was and marketed intensely to them i.e women, gays etc Whitney is not an Itunes singles seller but her fans purchase her albums. It seems to be that Christina and the label have to get her to connect with her base, they need to try to get back those fans that may have left and they also need to perhaps market her to hot ac, a/c i.e markets that actually purchase cds and not illegally download. REgarding the teeth, please, she does not have false teeth in as much as most stars have veneers. Never did understand where that came from.
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Post by NeRD on Jun 13, 2010 21:21:30 GMT -5
I'm wondering if she's have another long break before the next album.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jun 13, 2010 21:36:36 GMT -5
Well there is gonna be a Burlesque Soundtrack coming out this year later with more Christina material. So hopefully she only takes a year to 2 year break after the promotion period is over.
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Post by sephyrpatriq on Jun 13, 2010 21:36:49 GMT -5
Loving Storytellers, this is the most vulnerable I've ever seen her. I still love her despite the fickle fans and naysayers and will continue to support her.
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Post by Luckie Starchild on Jun 13, 2010 22:06:41 GMT -5
Well there is gonna be a Burlesque Soundtrack coming out this year later with more Christina material. So hopefully she only takes a year to 2 year break after the promotion period is over. Does anyone know if the soundtrack is on RCA?
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Post by Mike on Jun 13, 2010 22:20:46 GMT -5
The soundtrack is not with RCA.
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Post by ColdAsFire_Baby on Jun 13, 2010 22:22:45 GMT -5
Is Woohoo the second official single? I'm confused if it was just released for the heck of it or if it really is the 2nd single.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Jun 13, 2010 22:24:20 GMT -5
Well there is gonna be a Burlesque Soundtrack coming out this year later with more Christina material. So hopefully she only takes a year to 2 year break after the promotion period is over. Does anyone know if the soundtrack is on RCA? this isn't a direct answer to your question but there was a rumored leak of the song on youtube and it was removed due to copyright claims by "Sony Pictures Entertainment"
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Post by tsharky on Jun 13, 2010 22:35:52 GMT -5
I just bought the album today and I think it is pretty good actually. Not sure what the negativity is about?
It is kind of futuristic and reminds me a bit of the Black Eyed Peas new album in some ways, but that is a good thing. I like that she went in a different direction.
How are the critical reviews for this album so far? Hopefully good.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2010 22:36:05 GMT -5
So, of the Bionic songs, we have a medley of Bionic and NMT, and a Fantasia Summertime rip of You Lost Me. All of the Fighter performances are giving me Kelly Clarkson singing Walk Away during the promotional rounds for her last two releases. 'Minor' 'hit' with 'defiant' 'attitude' about 'fighting' or 'walk[ing] away'. That said, she does quite resemble Cyndi Lauper, something I hadn't recognized until the recent chatter.
Does the story of Beautiful change each time it's retold? No mention of the D!ke snub?
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Post by Junkiex on Jun 13, 2010 22:42:09 GMT -5
That said, she does quite resemble Cyndi Lauper, something I hadn't recognized until the recent chatter. Yup. She's the pure image of Cyndi.
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Post by PDC1987 on Jun 13, 2010 23:13:14 GMT -5
Bionic sold 24300 in the UK Lowest #1 this year This was expected. Anywhere it hits #1 it will hit #1 with low figures and merely because of a lack of competition.
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Post by Sara on Jun 13, 2010 23:21:57 GMT -5
I just watched her Storytellers, she sounded amazing and I loved hearing her talk about the songs she sang.
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Post by SHOOTER on Jun 14, 2010 0:25:19 GMT -5
Enjoyed both her BTM and Storytellers.
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Post by jazzyskye10² on Jun 14, 2010 1:00:58 GMT -5
The change of the album is most definitely part of the label's idea as well. They seemed to be in search of more commercial appeal which is why Polow was suggested. Christina claims NMT tied into her playing the character in Burlesque and well not being able to be herself but I'm not buying. Unfortunately, that just doesn't seem to be the situation. Case in point: Oprah! Her very first major public appearance and she looked like she reverted back to the early stages of B2B (Lauper/Granny) meets the Matrix sans pants. *smdh* Oh well. No matter how much we discuss it or who we blame we cannot go back to a year ago or whatever and change how the era went. Yup. As I said, if she likes it, I love it. I would like to think that it will be a lesson learned but only time shall tell. :)
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Post by Envoirment on Jun 14, 2010 4:30:53 GMT -5
Bionic sold 24300 in the UK Lowest #1 this year Mhm Album sales have been hideous this past month or so. Overall they are only down 2% as well. :o I think if she did promo here, with bionic or one of the ballads released (yes ballads do well here) then it should hopefully let the album sell consistantly until sept/oct when album sales pick up and she could get on X-factor to promote another single (A ballad more so, they sell albums a lot). That way she will get caught up in the christmas rush hopefully, meaning she will have consistant weeks of 50k+ and if she managed to get in top 10 the week of christmas, that is almost a given 100k+ week It isn't all doom and gloom yet, I just hope that my vision happens For the US, I dunno.
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Post by Enigma. on Jun 14, 2010 7:31:10 GMT -5
US didn't embraced Back to Basics and they will reject this. She does better elsewhere
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Post by StarSprinkles on Jun 14, 2010 9:13:14 GMT -5
I will say that I think this album is a big, big grower. There are still several songs I would have scrapped totally from the album, but as I've listened to my leaked version about 3 times all the way through, I'm considering buying the deluxe CD because there ARE some gems on here, and I have every other Christina album on CD, so why stop now?
ETA-I FINALLY figured out which song "My Girls" reminds me of. It's not a direct ripoff, but the influence is there, IMO:
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Post by blue in moonlight on Jun 14, 2010 9:24:31 GMT -5
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Post by Caution on Jun 14, 2010 9:32:22 GMT -5
Can't wait to celebrate Christina's debut. Maybe with all the promotion she will sell 500k after all. Nothing is impossible. I believe in the secret
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Post by Cerbius on Jun 14, 2010 9:55:02 GMT -5
Christina's other album sales to date in the UK:
Christina Aguilera - Stripped 1,944,405 Christina Aguilera - Back To Basics 522,825
Stripped really was a SMASH there. :o
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