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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 5, 2011 3:04:46 GMT -5
I don't ill hear it on the lite rock stations i listen to when i go to sleep at night...but who knows....sometimes rock bands are played. Sadly it's most Nickleback. ugh. "My Immortal" from Evanescence an example of a quality rock song getting played on adult contemporary radio. Now "Hesitate" is a little harder in some parts of the song than the original "My Immortal" that is played but it's not too heavy. "Bother" get a little run on Adult Contemporary but not as much as "My Immortal" from Evanescence. But still "Bother" got some run. Now i will never here my favorite artists "Tool", "Eminem", "A Perfect Circle", and etc on Adult Contemporary but imo theres no doubt Maynard has a voice that i think would resonate on adult contemporary radio. I think Corey Taylor has that as well. So will it? Who knows. The following is the lite rock station i listened to at night for a long time. www.allaccess.com/mediabase/q/report/playlist/station/WFMK-FMA few years ago i switched to Home.fm which is a christian station but plays a lot of the same stuff the above station does but just with some more christian artists mixed in. Now this is different than Hot AC. Maybe "Hesitate" has no chance on stations like these but i think it would be well received if it was. |
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Post by lockebox on Feb 5, 2011 13:31:25 GMT -5
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Feb 5, 2011 14:12:23 GMT -5
They should try sending this to CHR. Could do something.
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Post by Devin on Feb 5, 2011 15:33:08 GMT -5
It's getting decent airplay on HAC. Not Top 50 yet, though.
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Post by atlantaboy on Feb 9, 2011 20:31:31 GMT -5
"Bother" get a little run on Adult Contemporary but not as much as "My Immortal" from Evanescence. You guys are talking about Hot AC, right? (not AC/lite rock) |
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Post by slicknickshady on Feb 10, 2011 0:54:40 GMT -5
I'm talking AC/Lite Rock.
Bother and My Immortal both get play on the local AC/Lite Rock station here WFMK. But i mean neither of these songs are that hardcore so it doesnt surprise me. Not i do think "Hesitate" may be a little to heavy in some parts.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Mar 19, 2011 12:35:08 GMT -5
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Post by atlantaboy on Mar 19, 2011 13:51:45 GMT -5
I'm talking AC/Lite Rock. Bother and My Immortal both get play on the local AC/Lite Rock station here WFMK. But i mean neither of these songs are that hardcore so it doesnt surprise me. Not i do think "Hesitate" may be a little to heavy in some parts. That's REALLY rare - your AC is probably the only one in the country that played anything by Stone Sour |
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Post by Devin on Mar 19, 2011 22:49:05 GMT -5
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Post by rockmaniac on Apr 5, 2011 6:47:13 GMT -5
Imperfect or Digital as single #3
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Apr 5, 2011 10:21:41 GMT -5
I really thought this would be Top 20 on alternative by now It's still hanging on around in the Top 40 at least.  |
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Post by lockebox on Apr 5, 2011 11:07:31 GMT -5
Peak predictions: Active: #1 Alternative: #12 Peak Predictions: Active: #5 Alternative: #6 Active: #2 Alternative: #10 Our Alt. predictions were amazingly accurate. |
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 5, 2011 12:02:38 GMT -5
I feel like Alternative playing this is like Alternative playing Def Leppard - it's a good song, it's just the exact opposite of what Alternative's all about
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Post by lockebox on Apr 5, 2011 12:16:03 GMT -5
I feel like Alternative playing this is like Alternative playing Def Leppard - it's a good song, it's just the exact opposite of what Alternative's all about Playing this song or this band? I wouldn't quite compare it to Alt. playing Def Leppard. Saying that, they played AC/DC & Guns N' Roses a few years back. I don't see how it's that much a stretch. There's still plenty of hard rock/post-grunge bands on the chart. Hell, Shinedown released a ballad last year and it went top 10, so your point doesn't really stand. |
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 5, 2011 12:32:18 GMT -5
Hehe Mat, I love how you're having to simultaneously defend one artist as alternative while making the claim that another artist who is charting better is not alternative. You're certainly at the center of a lot of controversy in these parts this week.
I think both are very much alternative, but Adele is more consistent with the direction alternative is moving toward in the last year. That said, Stone Sour is pretty well-rooted in alternative with multiple significant hits, and I agree that as much as I dislike this song, I'm surprised at how poorly it's doing.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 5, 2011 12:41:20 GMT -5
I feel like Alternative playing this is like Alternative playing Def Leppard - it's a good song, it's just the exact opposite of what Alternative's all about Playing this song or this band? I wouldn't quite compare it to Alt. playing Def Leppard. Saying that, they played AC/DC & Guns N' Roses a few years back. I don't see how it's that much a stretch. There's still plenty of hard rock/post-grunge bands on the chart. Hell, Shinedown released a ballad last year and it went top 10, so your point doesn't really stand. The Crow & The Butterfly, to me, is the polar opposite of this - it had unconvential chords and cutting-edge lyrics, whereas this has cliche chord structure and "I need you...I feel you"-type lyrics - Alternative as a format was started up to avoid playing songs with lyrics like this (not that the lyrics are bad...they're just un-Alternative IMO) Stone Sour as a band might be post-grunge, but this song is definitely not post-grunge at all - it's similar to the late 80s hard rock ballad formula that grunge was trying to get away from |
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 5, 2011 12:50:39 GMT -5
Well this chord progression is pretty boring, but it's less standard than a song like "Animal" from Neon Trees (which is my go-to example for a song that did well on alternative while not meeting my criteria for alternative), and that song hit #1. The lyrics to that song are fairly poppy as well, but maybe the vocal stylings are enough to make it fit at alternative. The format that "Hesitate" is especially ill-suited for to my ears is active rock, but Stone Sour is a staple band there, so of course the stations are all going to play the song anyway.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 5, 2011 12:57:33 GMT -5
^To me, Animal is Depeche Mode-based (i. e. Alternative), while Hesitate is Def Leppard-based (i. e. Mainstream Rock) - that's just how it sounds to me though...
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 5, 2011 13:04:40 GMT -5
I don't think "Hesitate" sounds anything like Def Lepard nor do I think "Animal" sounds anything like Depeche Mode (at least not from a songwriting standpoint). Depeche Mode has way more emotional intensity than Neon Trees, and a MUCH darker sound. Stone Sour also sounds much more serious and they sound like they're trying (and in this case failing imo) to sound epic, which isn't something that's really a part of Def Lepard's aesthetic goals.
"Hesitate" to me sounds more like a Staind power ballad than anything, and historically, those have been huge at alternative. Neon Trees' overall sound is alternative, I'll give you that, but their first two singles were total pop songs. Their latest single sounds more alternative, but the irony there is that it will probably be substantially less successful than the first two on alternative.
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Post by atlantaboy on Apr 5, 2011 13:09:21 GMT -5
Eh...to me, Hesitate is much more similar to Far Away by Nickelback (which they didn't even try to release to Alternative) - I just can't picture Staind writing a song with lyrics like "I need you...I feel you..." - just seems like lyrics like this are the antithesis of what Alternative is all about
Also, Staind's ballads are all in minor keys (at least the verses), and this is in a major key
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 5, 2011 13:26:21 GMT -5
Also, Staind's ballads are all in minor keys (at least the verses), and this is in a major key This is true. Except "All I Want", which ended up being a colossal failure at rock formats. Sorry, Pen, but I saw that one coming. |
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Post by pen on Apr 5, 2011 13:29:12 GMT -5
Also, Staind's ballads are all in minor keys (at least the verses), and this is in a major key This is true. Except "All I Want", which ended up being a colossal failure at rock formats. Sorry, Pen, but I saw that one coming. That's fine. I'm disappointed it failed, but whatever. The tide of radio had changed. |
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Post by lockebox on Apr 5, 2011 13:31:26 GMT -5
I think Alt. radio doesn't really have a primary sound at the moment, which is probably why there's been some "discussion" on this board recently over what is and what isn't. "Diamond Eyes" is apparently Alternative, yet so is "Rolling in the Deep". I give up trying to work out what qualifies as Alt, these days, Jamie. |
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Post by pen on Apr 5, 2011 13:32:38 GMT -5
Alternative is whatever you want it to be and more.
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Post by lockebox on Apr 5, 2011 13:33:15 GMT -5
This is true. Except "All I Want", which ended up being a colossal failure at rock formats. Sorry, Pen, but I saw that one coming. That's fine. I'm disappointed it failed, but whatever. The tide of radio had changed. Yet, "Believe" hit #1. Strange state of affairs. |
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Post by pen on Apr 5, 2011 13:37:11 GMT -5
That's fine. I'm disappointed it failed, but whatever. The tide of radio had changed. Yet, "Believe" hit #1. Strange state of affairs. Mind control. |
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Post by lockebox on Apr 5, 2011 13:41:00 GMT -5
Yet, "Believe" hit #1. Strange state of affairs. Mind control. That didn't even hit Alt. ;) |
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Post by rockmaniac on Apr 5, 2011 13:49:05 GMT -5
can u at least make a prediction for single #3?
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Post by lockebox on Apr 5, 2011 13:50:13 GMT -5
"Digital"
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Post by jvandyck87 on Apr 5, 2011 14:00:01 GMT -5
can u at least make a prediction for single #3? Yeah, c'mon man...that's like the LEAST you could do.  |
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