As I Lay Dying - "Parallels"

[lockebox]

Goes for adds June 15th.

[metalfan87]

let's see if they do the same thing All That Remains did: top 10

[lockebox]

Charting at this stage would be an achievement.

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

did they ever score a top 40 hit?

[lockebox]

No top 40s as of yet, no.

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

May 21, 2010 17:35:09 GMT -5 lockebox said:

No top 40s as of yet, no.

that's what i thought too, i find it very difficult to get a top 10 hit, in that case, their lead single has to do almost as well as All That Remains' "Two Weeks" did....don't think so!

[metalfan87]

May 21, 2010 18:53:59 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

May 21, 2010 17:35:09 GMT -5 lockebox said:

No top 40s as of yet, no.

that's what i thought too, i find it very difficult to get a top 10 hit, in that case, their lead single has to do almost as well as All That Remains' "Two Weeks" did....don't think so!

All That Remains is the most recent metalcore band to reach top 40, but that might change

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

May 21, 2010 19:06:08 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

May 21, 2010 18:53:59 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

that's what i thought too, i find it very difficult to get a top 10 hit, in that case, their lead single has to do almost as well as All That Remains' "Two Weeks" did....don't think so!

All That Remains is the most recent metalcore band to reach top 40, but that might change

If you don't consider Bullet for My Valentine as a metalcore band then yes, forever in your hands of all that remains is the last song to hit the top 40

As for As I Lay Dying, i think the band has the potential to hit the top 40, but it will be very hard to hit the top 10

[metalfan87]

May 21, 2010 19:09:16 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

May 21, 2010 19:06:08 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

All That Remains is the most recent metalcore band to reach top 40, but that might change

If you don't consider Bullet for My Valentine as a metalcore band then yes, forever in your hands of all that remains is the last song to hit the top 40

As for As I Lay Dying, i think the band has the potential to hit the top 40, but it will be very hard to hit the top 10

BFMV is a metalcore band and they reached top 40 way before All That Remains

[lockebox]

Yeah, but Bullet for My Valentine is the last Metalcore band to hit the chart.

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

May 21, 2010 19:10:40 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

May 21, 2010 19:09:16 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

If you don't consider Bullet for My Valentine as a metalcore band then yes, forever in your hands of all that remains is the last song to hit the top 40

As for As I Lay Dying, i think the band has the potential to hit the top 40, but it will be very hard to hit the top 10

BFMV is a metalcore band and they reached top 40 way before All That Remains

ohh! now i got it! of course and BFMV hit the top 40

I thought what you were trying to say was all that remains had the last hit-song with "forever in your hands" and then no other metalcore song ever hit the top 40

for now i hope As I Lay Dying will debut in the top 40

[lockebox]

^ I would second that. This song, however, just doesn't have enough of a hook for it to appeal to radio. It's pretty heavy too.

[metalfan87]

we've seen metalcore bands hit the charts (KSE, Atreyu, BFMV, ATR, etc.). As I Lay Dying should be added

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

May 21, 2010 19:21:42 GMT -5 lockebox said:

^ I would second that. This song, however, just doesn't have enough of a hook for it to appeal to radio. It's pretty heavy too.

I think it's clear that is theoretically a heavy tune, hard to enter the chart, but with a good promotion everything is possible.
I found some of their previous album singles like "The Sound of Truth" and "Nothing Left" better choices, since they were much more friendlier for radio listeners

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

May 21, 2010 19:23:44 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

we've seen metalcore bands hit the charts (KSE, Atreyu, BFMV, ATR, etc.). As I Lay Dying should be added

i think the only band u forgot is Shadows Fall!

[metalfan87]

May 21, 2010 19:31:27 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

May 21, 2010 19:23:44 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

we've seen metalcore bands hit the charts (KSE, Atreyu, BFMV, ATR, etc.). As I Lay Dying should be added

i think the only band u forgot is Shadows Fall!

true. and Trivium. u know, I forgot to mention that a couple of bands failed to reach top 40: Bury Your Dead and Lamb of God.

[lockebox]

May 21, 2010 19:29:44 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

May 21, 2010 19:21:42 GMT -5 lockebox said:

^ I would second that. This song, however, just doesn't have enough of a hook for it to appeal to radio. It's pretty heavy too.

I think it's clear that is theoretically a heavy tune, hard to enter the chart, but with a good promotion everything is possible.
I found some of their previous album singles like "The Sound of Truth" and "Nothing Left" better choices, since they were much more friendlier for radio listeners

Good shout. They were definitely more friendly. This band sounds like a lesser version of Underoath for me, though.

May 21, 2010 19:31:27 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

May 21, 2010 19:23:44 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

we've seen metalcore bands hit the charts (KSE, Atreyu, BFMV, ATR, etc.). As I Lay Dying should be added

i think the only band u forgot is Shadows Fall!

Bloodsimple, In This Moment & Trivium also hit the top 40. A Day to Remember, Bury Your Dead, Lamb of God, Maylene and the Sons of Disaster, Soilwork and Still Remains have hit the top 50.

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

I forgot about trivium, or even avenged sevefold

i don't consider metalcore artists, bands like atreyu, avenged sevenfold, lamb of god or escape the fate since metalcore is their secondary or even third sub-genre

[metalfan87]

May 21, 2010 19:59:43 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

I forgot about trivium, or even avenged sevefold

i don't consider metalcore artists, bands like atreyu, avenged sevenfold, lamb of god since metalcore is their secondary or even third sub-genre

metalcore has been evolving over the past several years

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

May 21, 2010 20:02:07 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

May 21, 2010 19:59:43 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

I forgot about trivium, or even avenged sevefold

i don't consider metalcore artists, bands like atreyu, avenged sevenfold, lamb of god since metalcore is their secondary or even third sub-genre

metalcore has been evolving over the past several years

no doubt about that, but there are some specific bands like Killswitch Engage that can be described as pure metalcore

[lockebox]

Atreyu & Avenged Sevenfold? No not so much anymore. Lamb of God are somewhere inbetween Metalcore and Death Metal.

[metalfan87]

May 21, 2010 20:07:51 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Atreyu & Avenged Sevenfold? No not so much anymore. Lamb of God are somewhere inbetween Metalcore and Death Metal.

they are Thrash, too

[lockebox]

May 21, 2010 20:10:13 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

May 21, 2010 20:07:51 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Atreyu & Avenged Sevenfold? No not so much anymore. Lamb of God are somewhere inbetween Metalcore and Death Metal.

they are Thrash, too

Well, if you're gonna play that card, I could say that they're also Grindcore, Groove Metal and various other sub-genres.

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

LIST OF METALCORE BANDS THAT HIT THE TOP 40

KILLSWITCH ENGAGE
ALL THAT REMAINS
BULLET FOR MY VALENTINE
SHADOWS FALL
TRIVIUM
BLOODSIMPLE
IN THIS MOMENT*
ATREYU*
AVENGED SEVENFOLD*

*bands that use metalcore as a sub-genre

just tell me if I forgot any band!

[metalfan87]

u didn't left out anyone

[lockebox]

Since when did Escape the Fate hit the top 40?

[metalfan87]

May 21, 2010 20:48:39 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Since when did Escape the Fate hit the top 40?

and Lamb of God, too

[Jorge_Str [Som3on3]]

Lamb of God must have been a mistake, as for Escape the fate i think i saw a song or two of them hitting the top 40, so i have to edit that list!

[lockebox]

May 21, 2010 21:04:06 GMT -5 Jorge_Str [Som3on3] said:

Lamb of God must have been a mistake, as for Escape the fate i think i saw a song or two of them hitting the top 40, so i have to edit that list!

Neither have hit the top 40 as far as i'm aware. "Redneck" & "Set to Fail" came pretty close for Lamb of God on Active. As for Escape the Fate, I don't think they've ever hit the top 50 on either chart. I know "10 Miles Wide" came close to on Active and "Something" on Alternative. Their other singles, "Situations", "The Flood" & "This War is Ours" hardly got played at all if I remember correctly.

[Nicholas2.0]

May 21, 2010 17:23:49 GMT -5 @metalfan87 said:

let's see if they do the same thing All That Remains did: top 10

Why would you even connect the two? ??? Have you even heard "Parallels"? "Two Weeks" and "Forever in Your Hands" were all clean singing, while AILD is mostly Tim's roaring vocals. Melodic chorus aside, when was the last time you heard a song with mostly harsh screamed vocals do well on Active Rock radio? Just because they're big enough to "deserve" a hit radio song doesn't mean they have a prayer at doing so. And unless they have a radio edit up their sleeves, this song is 5 minutes long.

May 21, 2010 19:45:53 GMT -5 lockebox said:

This band sounds like a lesser version of Underoath for me, though.

They're pretty different bands. Underoath has/had that whole emo slant to them, but they've evolved more toward a math-y post-hardcore sound. Plus they have a keyboardist/electronic sound manipulator, or whatever you want to call him.

As I Lay Dying are more traditional metal and have ripping guitar solos, more intricate guitar lines and blast beats.

And then you have The Devil Wears Prada, who are like a young cross between the two of them.

I like Frail Words Collapse and Shadows Are Security about the same, but I thought An Ocean Between Us was a notable step up all around. Haven't had a chance to listen to The Powerless Rise much yet or give it my undivided attention, but so far I don't like it as much as Ocean.

I do like how they keep enlisting Converge's Jake Bannon to do their artwork, though.