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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 23, 2010 9:20:53 GMT -5
Wait, what!?
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Post by Ron57 on Jun 23, 2010 9:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 23, 2010 10:12:32 GMT -5
Jesus, the Deftones album is just over a month album old. I mean is it possible that both bands could have the idea for a song called "Diamond Eyes"? I doubt it...this had to have been written since the Deftones released theirs. Otherwise, that's an insane coincidence. While this song sounds cool compared to most Shinedown tracks, I don't think I can support this.
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Post by pen on Jun 23, 2010 10:33:59 GMT -5
Jesus, the Deftones album is just over a month album old. I mean is it possible that both bands could have the idea for a song called "Diamond Eyes"? I doubt it...this had to have been written since the Deftones released theirs. Otherwise, that's an insane coincidence. While this song sounds cool compared to most Shinedown tracks, I don't think I can support this. Yeah, that's right, Brent thought, oh shit the Deftones have a song called Diamond Eyes? We have to write one too! Get real. The whole reason for the subtitle is because they realized it would be associated with Deftones so they wanted to distinguish it.
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Post by pen on Jun 23, 2010 10:34:19 GMT -5
Oh the dignity of using wikipedia.org for a source. You do realize Wikipedia has sources themselves, right?
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Post by Ron57 on Jun 23, 2010 10:54:07 GMT -5
2 words. Who cares? Get real, it's not like he was looking for info that would be insanely difficult to find, I told him it was from the movie and sent him a link with info for a movie. If you WANTED me to get technical, I could SCROLL to the bottom of the page on Wikipedia and click the link to the source. www.atlanticrecords.com/news/article/?articleId=8a0af812274dc9b00127b9dcbc3a48b0Look there you have it. That's FROM Wikipedia.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 23, 2010 11:04:05 GMT -5
Jesus, the Deftones album is just over a month album old. I mean is it possible that both bands could have the idea for a song called "Diamond Eyes"? I doubt it...this had to have been written since the Deftones released theirs. Otherwise, that's an insane coincidence. While this song sounds cool compared to most Shinedown tracks, I don't think I can support this. Yeah, that's right, Brent thought, oh s**t the Deftones have a song called Diamond Eyes? We have to write one too! Get real. The whole reason for the subtitle is because they realized it would be associated with Deftones so they wanted to distinguish it. Hmm just like Godsmack got rid of the space between "God" and "Smack" and then put a space between "Shine" and "Down," because they wanted to distinguish themselves from the Alice In Chains song and their song from the band Shinedown. Look, I agree that it's possibly a coincidence, but I don't think you can be certain that it is either. I had never heard the expression "Diamond Eyes" before a few months ago. Maybe its just my instinctual coincidence aversion, but it's a pretty unique, creative, striking visual, and no offense to Shinedown, but they usually pale in comparison to the Deftones in this department. Is it impossible that they conceived of something like this on their own? Absolutely not. But my inclination is to believe that I don't need to get real because there is more truth to what I'm saying than you are wanting to recognize.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 23, 2010 11:26:37 GMT -5
^While it may be, the fact that you claim to be an alternative/rock expert and you're not aware of the new Deftones album AND current single from the Deftones also entitled "Diamond Eyes" is absolutely ridiculous...not to mention that it's a top 10 hit on active and a top 20 on alternative and the album debuted at #6 on the Billboard 200. But sure, nobody else in the music industry would know that.
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Post by crash46 on Jun 23, 2010 11:28:59 GMT -5
He's yanking your chain. He'll deny it, but that's what he's doing.
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Post by jvandyck87 on Jun 23, 2010 11:42:08 GMT -5
OK that's not as bad, as long as you were aware that the band Deftones had put out SOMETHING recently called "Diamond Eyes" that has been fairly successful, I'll let it slide a bit more. But I think you're wrong about only Deftones fans being aware of the song and album title given their recent success. Either that or they have a LOT of fans.
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Post by Jorge_Str [Som3on3] on Jun 23, 2010 12:09:00 GMT -5
will this song get adds date?
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Jun 23, 2010 13:45:07 GMT -5
Oh the dignity of using wikipedia.org for a source. Better than your sources half the time. And did it turn out to be wrong?
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Post by PHOBES on Jun 23, 2010 15:02:51 GMT -5
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Post by Pipa on Jun 23, 2010 15:26:02 GMT -5
No guys, it's 1956 again and this is a Deftones cover.
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Post by WotUNeed on Jun 23, 2010 17:31:49 GMT -5
No guys, it's 1956 again and this is a Deftones cover. I have absolutely nothing of substance to add to this thread, but this post made me laugh, so thanks for that.
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Post by pen on Jun 23, 2010 23:00:09 GMT -5
I had never heard the expression "Diamond Eyes" before a few months ago. Maybe its just my instinctual coincidence aversion, but it's a pretty unique, creative, striking visual You've really never heard the expression "eyes shine like diamonds"?
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Post by pen on Jun 24, 2010 9:42:23 GMT -5
You only get your references from music lyrics?
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Post by pen on Jun 24, 2010 10:24:51 GMT -5
Those three anyway. No recalling any other use of diamonds in phrases myself. Run eyes shine like diamonds through Google, you'll find a ton of uses. Song lyrics abound too, from Boyz II Men to Hawthorne Heights to Van Morrison. It's not an uncommon analogy. It's probably actually one of the most common.
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Post by PDC1987 on Jun 26, 2010 22:52:55 GMT -5
Oh the dignity of using wikipedia.org for a source. You do realize Wikipedia has sources themselves, right? Random articles from independent Yugoslavian newspapers can pass as "sources" on Wikipedia. Cher's page once claimed (for weeks mind you) that she was the highest selling recording act of all time with over 1 billion records sold.
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Post by pen on Jun 26, 2010 23:22:59 GMT -5
You do realize Wikipedia has sources themselves, right? Random articles from independent Yugoslavian newspapers can pass as "sources" on Wikipedia. Cher's page once claimed (for weeks mind you) that she was the highest selling recording act of all time with over 1 billion records sold. And I once posted on Framing Hanley's website that Nixon was an anteatereater. I'm not saying that information on Wikipedia shouldn't be taken with a grain of salt, but the people there do try to fix any errors (for example, my addition was gone the very next day) and as long as you're smart about recognizing what a proper source is, Wikipedia is very handy for a lot of information all in one place.
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jun 27, 2010 16:55:56 GMT -5
Obviously that's why I stick to the original sources. No need for a haphazard inaccurate collection to gather data for me anyway. Webster's dictionary defines Artie Ziff as: a haphazard inaccurate collection of data
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Post by pen on Jun 27, 2010 17:21:30 GMT -5
Obviously that's why I stick to the original sources. No need for a haphazard inaccurate collection to gather data for me anyway. Well it would be easy for you since you only use one source anyhow.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jun 28, 2010 3:28:27 GMT -5
Webster's dictionary defines Artie Ziff as: a haphazard inaccurate collection of data :)
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 28, 2010 6:32:16 GMT -5
Sounds cool.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 28, 2010 9:42:37 GMT -5
Well its not the music video.
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Post by lockebox on Jun 28, 2010 11:35:59 GMT -5
Worst I've heard Shinedown.
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Post by Shadows in the Dark on Jun 28, 2010 11:59:44 GMT -5
Definitely below average for Shinedown.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 28, 2010 15:36:22 GMT -5
I think its a stunnng song. This is much more of a song than the generic "Devour" (a song I still quite like).
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Post by My Life Is A Stereo on Jun 28, 2010 18:19:53 GMT -5
I like it, its a good summer party song and the boom lay boom lay boom is an easy catch phrase to have catch on. Best song they've had...no....but good for time of the year for sure.
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Post by mcbrearty on Jun 28, 2010 20:40:27 GMT -5
This song is much more catchy when you have seen the movie trailer a million times and have heard the song mixed with Stallone, Arnie, Jet Li and co kicking arse.
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