Taylor Swift | Speak Now | 10.25.10 (1M Debut!)

[Peaches. [Ch, r. is]]

Yea I don't like the preview of Mean. But I really wanna hear Dear John :O

[Gravity.]

Oct 18, 2010 17:52:23 GMT -5 Kyla said:

Oct 18, 2010 17:41:47 GMT -5 Gravity. said:

Uh oh. John Mayer and Taylor Swift going at it. Both of my faves. :( I'm gonna need to change my avatar.

I love them both too. And maybe I'll change my mind when I hear the song or if John reacts to it, but right now I love it. From the lyrics that were in the article, even though there are definitely some digs, it seems more sad that mean/bitter. I think one reason that people (John fans) are reacting so strongly against it, is the way the author of the article built up the song. "Ooh, John Mayer's going to hate this album. Taylor's totally trashing him". But I didn't get that so much in the actual lyrics.

And assuming something did happen with them more than just a crush/him leading her on (if you know what I mean), then possibly 'Haunted' or 'Last Kiss' is about him as well. If that one line in "Last Kiss" means what I think it means, I'm not really sure of who else it could be about. Surely not Joe or Lautner.

I've noticed that there is a lot of overlap with John and Taylor fans.

I didn't think that, from the lyrics posted, that she was totally trashing him. I mean, these lyrics weren't Did I make you run & hide like a scared little boy or I'll tell mine you're gay level of spite. I don't have any idea how far this 'relationship' went. For all we know, he could have just led her on like he does so many others.

[realityBITES]

I love the preview for Mean!

[Kyla]

Oct 18, 2010 18:08:56 GMT -5 Gravity. said:

I've noticed that there is a lot of overlap with John and Taylor fans.

I didn't think that, from the lyrics posted, that she was totally trashing him. I mean, these lyrics weren't Did I make you run & hide like a scared little boy or I'll tell mine you're gay level of spite. I don't have any idea how far this 'relationship' went. For all we know, he could have just led her on like he does so many others.

I just don't see John being offended by it, like his fans. I mean if he did lead her on or hurt her, surely he's aware of it, and would be expecting a song about it. He writes song about how he messes up relationships and breaks hearts all the time. Now it's a song from the girl's perspective. I just for some reason think he'd almost be... oddly flattered by it? Especially since it sounds like it's a really great song. The highlight of the album.

But maybe not. The press hasn't really picked up on it yet, but you know they will. And they're going to eat it up. It'll be interesting to see their take on it. Especially once we hear the full song.

[Gravity.]

I don't really think that John will be offended either. Like you said, he could even be oddly flattered by it. He has that oddness about him, lol. Some of his stans though.... I don't even want to think about how crazy it might be.

The press will have a field day. It'll be like "Forever & Always" all over again. I'm really excited for this song, and have been since the track listing came out.

[arti87]

I honestly can't wait to hear Dear John. Does anyone get the feeling he will write song about her in his next album?

[CammyCan]

So basically the album is going to be incredible? Never thought any less.

[never stop]

wow, thanks yahoo. now the next seven days are going to be excruciating.


so excited though!

[Mark]

Just called my local target. They open at 8am. I will be outside waiting as the doors open next Monday :)

[maria4hitz]

Updated single sales from the Billboard thread.

9 - 4,720,726 - SWIFT*TAYLOR LOVE STORY
45 - 3,430,994 - SWIFT*TAYLOR YOU BELONG WITH ME
90 - 2,671,578 - SWIFT*TAYLOR OUR SONG
104 - 2,518,173 - SWIFT*TAYLOR TEARDROPS ON MY GUITAR

[heartbreaklullaby]

"Back to December" live at a private concert in Paris on Oct 18

[#brayden]

Based on the preview, I don't think 'Mean' will be quite as good as the previous two promotional singles.

[Mark]

"Mean" is on iTunes!!

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Oct 18, 2010 22:08:44 GMT -5 Mark said:

"Mean" is on iTunes!!

How did you find it? I tried searching and came up with nothing.

[heartbreaklullaby]

Oct 18, 2010 22:17:04 GMT -5 👑 Eloquent ™ said:

Oct 18, 2010 22:08:44 GMT -5 Mark said:

"Mean" is on iTunes!!

How did you find it? I tried searching and came up with nothing.

http://itun​es.apple.com​/us/album/me​an-single/id​398548415?ig​n-mpt=uo%3D4


Mean sounds great.
Back to December/Mean> Speak Now

[CammyCan]

Just got around the reading the full article, so excited for this album.

"Better Than Revenge" is to Demi, yes?

[EPG]

According to "Better Than Revenge", Demi is a huge slut. Y/Y? :kii:

[survivor020034]

what happened between her and demi that made her write a song about her?

[heartbreaklullaby]

Oct 18, 2010 22:23:14 GMT -5 CammyCan said:

Just got around the reading the full article, so excited for this album.

"Better Than Revenge" is to Demi, yes?

it's more about Camilla Belle, perhaps?

[Typo]

'Mean' will probably get old get fast but it's alright -- at the moment. I could really do without the sudden emergence of background vocals towards the end.

It's not the countriest thing she's ever done either. Did they forget about her debut?

[Deleted]

Wow. This album is gonna be good. I respect so much that she wrote this album all by herself. She is so talented, and I for one am glad she writes about her personal experiences. Can't wait :)

[👑 Eloquent ™]

It definitely sounds like the countriest thing she's done IMO and I love it. The attitude and melody make the song shine. <3

[nighttime]

another fantastic song.

[never stop]

I think Better than Revenge is about Camilla, even though it is harder to rhyme with other words unlike Demi.

Did something happen between Taylor and Demi? I was unaware of this.

[justlurkingaround]

I just downloaded "Mean"
I think the guy is a critic, not an ex-boyfriend like the way she made him sound in the preview.
And I think the song is awesome:)

[musicintervention]

Just bought Mean... very enjoyable. Defiantly country sound, and great!

[desertfloods]

Speak Now > Mean >>> Back To December >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mine

And those lyrics about John and Demi.... Heh, she sure knows how to get people talking. TBH, the album is becoming a bit too tabloid-like for me.

[ListenToItTwice]

Back to December >> Speak Now > Mean = Mine

[Cerbius]

Oct 18, 2010 23:18:40 GMT -5 ListenToItTwice said:

Back to December >> Speak Now > Mean = Mine

I agree.

[👑 Eloquent ™]

Oct 18, 2010 23:14:40 GMT -5 desertfloods said:

Heh, she sure knows how to get people talking. TBH, the album is becoming a bit too tabloid-like for me.

I don't think she wrote the songs with intent to "shock" people or drum up publicity for herself or the album. Taylor writes about what she experiences, including the people in and out of her life. She's doing what she's done from the beginning, it's just now some of the people she's talking about are public figures (which I don't think is a valid reason for her not to write about them if she wants). I think most writers would do the same; she just happens to be honest about it.