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Post by Kyla on Nov 1, 2010 21:23:22 GMT -5
Who do you guys think Last Kiss and Better To Revenge are about? Last Kiss is about Joe Jonas. In the lyric booklet, the capital letters spell out "forever and always" which was her song about him on the last album. Better Than Revenge is about either Demi Lovato or Camilla Belle. My money is on Camilla, because she "stole" Joe away from Taylor. It's 100% about Camilla. The singing at the end, both 'do you still feel like you know what you're doing' and 'show me how much better you are', are references to her. "Much Better" is the song that Joe (and many co-writers) wrote about how Camilla was better than Taylor. And "I know what I'm doing" was a Camilla quote. Taylor was pretty obvious with that song. lol
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Post by applechic on Nov 1, 2010 21:43:26 GMT -5
She shouldn't still be singing songs about the Jonas boy. It just gives him free publicity. His 15 minutes of fame has been up since last year. Having said that, Last Kiss has really grown on me!
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Post by Mack on Nov 1, 2010 21:50:37 GMT -5
Last Kiss is about Joe Jonas. In the lyric booklet, the capital letters spell out "forever and always" which was her song about him on the last album. Better Than Revenge is about either Demi Lovato or Camilla Belle. My money is on Camilla, because she "stole" Joe away from Taylor. It's 100% about Camilla. The singing at the end, both 'do you still feel like you know what you're doing' and 'show me how much better you are', are references to her. "Much Better" is the song that Joe (and many co-writers) wrote about how Camilla was better than Taylor. And "I know what I'm doing" was a Camilla quote. Taylor was pretty obvious with that song. lol Also, the lyric about the vintage dresses make it pretty obvious that the song is about Camilla, too. Doesn't she wear them a lot?
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Post by Gravity. on Nov 1, 2010 21:56:11 GMT -5
Last Kiss is about Joe Jonas. In the lyric booklet, the capital letters spell out "forever and always" which was her song about him on the last album. Better Than Revenge is about either Demi Lovato or Camilla Belle. My money is on Camilla, because she "stole" Joe away from Taylor. It's 100% about Camilla. The singing at the end, both 'do you still feel like you know what you're doing' and 'show me how much better you are', are references to her. "Much Better" is the song that Joe (and many co-writers) wrote about how Camilla was better than Taylor. And "I know what I'm doing" was a Camilla quote. Taylor was pretty obvious with that song. lol I figured that it was at least 90% about a Camilla. I kind of wanted it to be about Demi for the simple reason that I don't like her. The "Much Better" references were pretty apparent, weren't they? I want to hear Taylor and Hayley Williams sing this together sometime. Last Kiss is about Joe Jonas. In the lyric booklet, the capital letters spell out "forever and always" which was her song about him on the last album. Better Than Revenge is about either Demi Lovato or Camilla Belle. My money is on Camilla, because she "stole" Joe away from Taylor. Oh!! How cool the spelling thing, LOL! Thanks! - what are the other spelled out messages? Does anyone have a list? lol Mine - Toby Sparks Fly - Port and Oregon (?) Portland, Oregon Back to December - Tay Speak Now - You always regret what you don't say Dear John - Loved You From The First Day Mean - I thought you got me The Story of Us - CMT Awards Never Grow Up - Moved out in July Innocent - Life is full of little interruptions Haunted - Till to this day (?) Last Kiss - Forever and Always Long Live - For you
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 1, 2010 21:58:39 GMT -5
So obviously Back To December is about Taylor Lautner....I had a feeling it was.
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Post by Taylor. on Nov 1, 2010 22:06:51 GMT -5
Sparks Fly - Port and Oregon (?) It's Portland, Oregon.
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Post by Gravity. on Nov 1, 2010 22:10:41 GMT -5
Sparks Fly - Port and Oregon (?) It's Portland, Oregon. Ohhhh. I missed the "L." I feel really dumb now. I knew most of them off the top of my head though.
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 1, 2010 22:12:27 GMT -5
What's the significance of Portland, Oregon? lol
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 1, 2010 22:15:16 GMT -5
I was trying to figure that out too......lol.
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Post by Mark on Nov 1, 2010 22:16:53 GMT -5
Is that where she first performed Sparks Fly? That would make the most sense.
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 1, 2010 22:18:47 GMT -5
Or maybe that's where she wrote it?
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Post by Kyla on Nov 1, 2010 22:39:44 GMT -5
Supposedly, "Sparks Fly" was written about Jake Owen. The song was written right after her first album came out. And she wrote a myspace blog in Oct. 2006 about meeting him when they did a show together in a bar in Portland. (there was a line about a bar in the original version and Jake has green eyes too)
But I think she was so vague with the clue because 1) the song's 4 years old and she's changed it so much that it's probably not even about him for her anymore and 2) the song's basically saying she wants to sleep with him and she was 16 and he was 25 at the time she wrote the song. lol
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Post by r.enato on Nov 1, 2010 22:43:58 GMT -5
Ooh so interesting. I'm loving this album more & more with every listen.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Nov 2, 2010 10:49:15 GMT -5
^^ Haunted's message is "Still to this day"
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2010 10:55:40 GMT -5
Have the sales numbers been released for this yet?
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Nov 2, 2010 10:57:36 GMT -5
^^ Nope. We have the 54% reported update from HDD, though: 575,525. We're expecting their final numbers this afternoon (usually about 3pm) and then Soundscan numbers around 11am tomorrow.
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Post by r.enato on Nov 2, 2010 10:57:37 GMT -5
CHART DATE: 11/01/2010 LAST UPDATE: 11/02/2010 07:49:04 NOW IN: 54.02%
LW TW artist / album label power index -- 1 TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 575,525
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Post by Kyla on Nov 2, 2010 11:15:43 GMT -5
^^ Nope. We have the 54% reported update from HDD, though: 575,525. We're expecting their final numbers this afternoon (usually about 3pm) and then Soundscan numbers around 11am tomorrow. Do you know what time the HDD sales chart starts updating today? I can't remember. Eta: Nevermind. Noon CT, apparently.
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Post by fullonrainstorm on Nov 2, 2010 11:31:33 GMT -5
prettymuchamazing.com/reviews/albumreviews/speaknowALBUM REVIEW: Taylor Swift – Speak Now 84 — [Rating Scale] The album suffers from a couple of flaws common to most pop albums. It’s exactly two tracks too long: “Enchanted” and “Last Kiss,” fine songs both, slow down the pace of the record. It is not two tracks long. Enchanted is so perfect. Strange how some tracks deemed weak by reviewers who otherwise love Speak Now are deemed absolute classics by others(I happen to think Enchanted and Last Kiss are masterpieces). 2 people can love Speak Now but for completely different reasons--and I've seen it happen multiple times already. And I have to emphasize: some parts of Last Kiss are pure poetry...
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Post by Kyla on Nov 2, 2010 11:49:46 GMT -5
And I have to emphasize: some parts of Last Kiss are pure poetry... The subject of the song takes a lot away for me. I don't get these girls' obsession over the guy...
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Post by Bojangles on Nov 2, 2010 12:08:56 GMT -5
Are most of her songs written about boyfriends?
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Post by Carriefan1190 on Nov 2, 2010 13:05:06 GMT -5
^That's where she gets most of her inspiration from....but not many of them on the new album are obviously about guys.
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Post by nightshade on Nov 2, 2010 13:14:27 GMT -5
It is not two tracks long. Enchanted is so perfect. Strange how some tracks deemed weak by reviewers who otherwise love Speak Now are deemed absolute classics by others(I happen to think Enchanted and Last Kiss are masterpieces). I just think them saying Enchanted is basically part of the fat of the album is kind of dumb because based on posts/polls from this board and another board, quite different than this one, the general opinion is that Enchanted is the best song on the album. I say "kind of" dumb, in fear of me getting reported as I did in another section of this board.
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Post by wwr on Nov 2, 2010 13:26:41 GMT -5
anyone knows if she's planning on realising the karaoke versions for Speak Now? I love having the other karaoke albums
and i can't wait to sing haunted lol
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Post by Kyla on Nov 2, 2010 15:38:20 GMT -5
HDD's prediction with 100% in: 1,044,477
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Post by twilight on Nov 2, 2010 15:39:12 GMT -5
TAYLOR SWIFT BIG MACHINE 1,044,477 Wow Super Impressive ! According to HDD's
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Post by musicintervention on Nov 2, 2010 15:40:00 GMT -5
wow, nice job taylor
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Post by Kyla on Nov 2, 2010 15:40:39 GMT -5
I knew it had to be quite a bit over 1 mil for them to say it was a lock. But wow! I don't think it's THAT far off from 50 Cent's number, from what I remember?
Eta: Nevermind. He had 1.14M Maybe I was thinking of Garth's number. He had 1.08M. She probably won't get that one either though.
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Post by God on Nov 2, 2010 15:43:06 GMT -5
I gave the album a second spin, and I still think it's really good. I just wish it wasn't so long though. My favorites are Enchanted and Haunted.
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Post by Cerbius on Nov 2, 2010 15:46:27 GMT -5
If these numbers hold for Soundscan, she'll have the second-highest debut for a female artist and for a Country artist. She'll also potentially be the last artist to sell a million copies in one week. :'(
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