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Post by passionformusic on Nov 7, 2010 9:45:30 GMT -5
^ I actually noticed the bullet points delivery thing with the media rounds she did to promote Speak Now. She always mentioned the exact same sentence: "This album that I wrote, without any co-writers" yeah. i think its smart. some people will always put her in the same group as Disney stars...and wont give her a chance because of it.
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Post by passionformusic on Nov 7, 2010 10:03:19 GMT -5
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Post by Kyla on Nov 7, 2010 10:16:37 GMT -5
So that international number definitely wasn't all the countries.
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Post by Eqbk on Nov 7, 2010 12:06:03 GMT -5
So that international number definitely wasn't all the countries. Well technically, it may have been. The Australian numbers likely missed the cut-off date for that chart so it wasn't added to the total first week sales. So the Australian numbers may be added to the 2nd week sales total. Really though, it isn't so much about 1st week sales as it is about total sales. I'm very happy that she sold enough to go platinum 1st week in Australia. Just in case anybody wanted to know all her peaks so far. This website updates them as they come in: acharts.us/album/58255It's very hit and miss internationally. The good thing is, she's doing at least decent in most of the big markets. She's done well in the US, Canada, and Australia. She's done okay in the UK and Spain. Though not so well in the Netherlands or France. We'll have to wait to see how she does in Japan, Germany, and Italy.
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Post by passionformusic on Nov 7, 2010 12:29:34 GMT -5
So that international number definitely wasn't all the countries. Well technically, it may have been. The Australian numbers likely missed the cut-off date for that chart so it wasn't added to the total first week sales. So the Australian numbers may be added to the 2nd week sales total. Really though, it isn't so much about 1st week sales as it is about total sales. I'm very happy that she sold enough to go platinum 1st week in Australia. Just in case anybody wanted to know all her peaks so far. This website updates them as they come in: acharts.us/album/58255It's very hit and miss internationally. The good thing is, she's doing at least decent in most of the big markets. She's done well in the US, Canada, and Australia. She's done okay in the UK and Spain. Though not so well in the Netherlands or France. We'll have to wait to see how she does in Japan, Germany, and Italy. I think she should not have called off her performance in Germany. I heavily doubt she was that sick. It´s one of the largest markets in Europe. But i bet it was a calculated move by her and her label. US is still the main priority.
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Post by heartbreaklullaby on Nov 7, 2010 12:36:48 GMT -5
So that international number definitely wasn't all the countries. Well technically, it may have been. The Australian numbers likely missed the cut-off date for that chart so it wasn't added to the total first week sales. So the Australian numbers may be added to the 2nd week sales total. Really though, it isn't so much about 1st week sales as it is about total sales. I'm very happy that she sold enough to go platinum 1st week in Australia. Just in case anybody wanted to know all her peaks so far. This website updates them as they come in: acharts.us/album/58255It's very hit and miss internationally. The good thing is, she's doing at least decent in most of the big markets. She's done well in the US, Canada, and Australia. She's done okay in the UK and Spain. Though not so well in the Netherlands or France. We'll have to wait to see how she does in Japan, Germany, and Italy. For the Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland, I'd say it is quite an improvement compared with Fearless. It already charted higher than Fearless' peak in these countries. As far as I know, there isn't much promotion over there, unlike the hype that Love Story created back then. The position on the French chart is a bit disappointing though.
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Post by Kyla on Nov 7, 2010 13:06:07 GMT -5
^ I actually noticed the bullet points delivery thing with the media rounds she did to promote Speak Now. She always mentioned the exact same sentence: "This album that I wrote, without any co-writers" yeah. i think its smart. some people will always put her in the same group as Disney stars...and wont give her a chance because of it. Yeah. I wasn't saying I'm against it. haha She's just kind of obvious when she does it, like that writer said. I'm glad she wrote the whole album by herself. And that she's making sure people know that. That quote from that guy from the Black Crows a few months ago proves how ignorant a lot of people are when it comes to her. Unfortunately she got grouped in with the Disney kids because she dated one of them and became close friends with a few others. Then she had Justin Bieber open for her a few times (hope that never happens again). I think (I hope) people's perception of her is sort of distancing from that now. Being introduced now as '4 time Grammy winner Taylor Swift' has to help.
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Post by cufan7 on Nov 7, 2010 13:26:02 GMT -5
After hearing the album for a while now I can officially pin down my favorite song.
"Last Kiss" hands down. Love it.
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Post by Living Legend on Nov 7, 2010 13:28:35 GMT -5
I'm assuming her label is probably gonna ship out more units to retail starting next week. Do you think they'll ship out another 2 million so they can just certify it 4x platinum?
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Post by applechic on Nov 7, 2010 13:33:15 GMT -5
I hope Taylor is shooting a music video for Back To December right now. They need to release the second single asap...not sure what they're waiting for.
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Post by Kyla on Nov 7, 2010 13:38:23 GMT -5
I hope Taylor is shooting a music video for Back To December right now. They need to release the second single asap...not sure what they're waiting for. "Mine" just peaked on the country chart a few days ago. They made a big push for #1 last week, which they got on mediabase but fell short on Billboard.
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Post by passionformusic on Nov 7, 2010 14:38:11 GMT -5
I hope Taylor is shooting a music video for Back To December right now. They need to release the second single asap...not sure what they're waiting for. "Mine" just peaked on the country chart a few days ago. They made a big push for #1 last week, which they got on mediabase but fell short on Billboard. Funny thing is "Mine" is the only song i dislike on the album.
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Post by jumpupandburst on Nov 7, 2010 14:46:11 GMT -5
^i didn't think "Mine" was that great of a song the first time i listened to it; melody-wise, but it doesn't grow old like a lot of popular songs. it's actually a decent song that won't get annoying (like many of her other songs). i didn't see it dominating like her lead in singles from her previous two albums and i was right. i think there are a lot of other songs on the album that can be more appealing to a general audience. one of those songs is "Back to December" =).
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Post by Eqbk on Nov 7, 2010 16:24:00 GMT -5
yeah. i think its smart. some people will always put her in the same group as Disney stars...and wont give her a chance because of it. Yeah. I wasn't saying I'm against it. haha She's just kind of obvious when she does it, like that writer said. I'm glad she wrote the whole album by herself. And that she's making sure people know that. That quote from that guy from the Black Crows a few months ago proves how ignorant a lot of people are when it comes to her. Unfortunately she got grouped in with the Disney kids because she dated one of them and became close friends with a few others. Then she had Justin Bieber open for her a few times (hope that never happens again). I think (I hope) people's perception of her is sort of distancing from that now. Being introduced now as '4 time Grammy winner Taylor Swift' has to help. I think part of the problem is the singles she releases. They're catchy but not deep. Her most mature/deep songs tend to not be single-material so people never get to see that side of her. For example, a lot of us believe that 'Story of Us' is probably her best shot at a Top 40 smash; however it is not her most mature, most emotional, or deepest song on the album. So if released, it could be successful but won't change the opinions of naysayers. As for the Disney thing, I think any teen idol that became popular during Disney channel's peak got clumped into Disney. Their overwhelming presence made the public think teen idol=Disney channel star. Taylor and Justin Bieber are examples of this effect. Luckily, the Disney stars at the forefront of that domination have all but faded while Taylor has remained popular. The public will get the chance to see continued growth/maturity from her, which is a luxury many Disney stars won't likely get. For the Netherlands, Belgium and Switzerland, I'd say it is quite an improvement compared with Fearless. It already charted higher than Fearless' peak in these countries. As far as I know, there isn't much promotion over there, unlike the hype that Love Story created back then. The position on the French chart is a bit disappointing though. It's definitely a huge improvement to go from top 40 or top 100 to top 20 in these countries. Still, looking at the performance of Speak Now on its own merit, a top 20 debut is just okay. What's important though is if Speak Now can climb. Fearless debuted extremely low in some of the Euro countries but managed to climb several spots up to reach its peak. What's worrying is that Fearless peaked at its debut week at the major music markets (except Australia). She only managed to climb up from her debut in the smaller markets.
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Post by justlurkingaround on Nov 7, 2010 16:25:00 GMT -5
I hope Taylor is shooting a music video for Back To December right now. They need to release the second single asap...not sure what they're waiting for. "Mine" just peaked on the country chart a few days ago. They made a big push for #1 last week, which they got on mediabase but fell short on Billboard. Well, Mine has been dropping at a record-breaking speed on country radio so the sooner they get single #2 out there, the better.
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Post by passionformusic on Nov 7, 2010 17:02:02 GMT -5
Taylor@Etalk in Canada. Being charming as always. :) Lots of rehearsed answers though. vimeo.com/16555057
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Post by justlurkingaround on Nov 7, 2010 17:10:00 GMT -5
*obsessing over Last Kiss*
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 7, 2010 17:35:23 GMT -5
Well, Mine has been dropping at a record-breaking speed on country radio so the sooner they get single #2 out there, the better. Eh, all of her singles drop at "record-breaking speeds" when compared to other popular artists on the format. There is nothing out of the ordinary about the rate at which it's falling (given it's a Taylor single).
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Post by justlurkingaround on Nov 7, 2010 18:20:56 GMT -5
Well, Mine has been dropping at a record-breaking speed on country radio so the sooner they get single #2 out there, the better. Eh, all of her singles drop at "record-breaking speeds" when compared to other popular artists on the format. There is nothing out of the ordinary about the rate at which it's falling (given it's a Taylor single). Losing 258 spins and around 1.5 million AIs in a day is normal for Taylor?
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Post by 👑 Eloquent ™ on Nov 7, 2010 18:35:46 GMT -5
Losing 258 spins and around 1.5 million AIs in a day is normal for Taylor? Are you familiar with her history on country radio? I can't say that I've tirelessly scoured each of her previous single's daily losses so that I could say with accuracy such a loss (equal or greater) has happened before, but Taylor's singles have always fell really quickly (aside from maybe "Tim McGraw" and "Teardrops On My Guitar"). Ask any of the chart enthusiast in the country forum and they'll verify this (as she has always maintained a high burn-rate on the format for whatever reason). The chart run of "Love Story" in particular exemplifies this.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 7, 2010 19:21:56 GMT -5
I am hoping they are about to release the second single. I think having one climbing multiple formats would help maximize holiday sales which will be excellent anyway. Then have an awesome third single waiting to be released early-ish next year. I am hoping for one of the faster, fun songs for that single release :)
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Post by Gravity. on Nov 7, 2010 20:10:02 GMT -5
Maybe I'm looking too much into this, but does anyone else think that "Superman" could be about John Mayer too? (When they were happy together.)
She sings "I loved you from the very first day," which is also the message spelled out in the lyrics to "Dear John."
Thoughts?
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Post by Nic (Britney Spears) on Nov 7, 2010 21:12:32 GMT -5
Maybe I'm looking too much into this, but does anyone else think that "Superman" could be about John Mayer too? (When they were happy together.) She sings "I loved you from the very first day," which is also the message spelled out in the lyrics to "Dear John." Thoughts? I actually thought about that, too.
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Post by tsr on Nov 7, 2010 23:38:49 GMT -5
I'm loving "Ours" right now. Aside from "Mean" I think it's the countriest sounding song on the record. As for my favorites, they remain "Enchanted", "Sparks Fly", "Mine", "Innocent", and "If this Was a Movie" but "Dear John", "Speak Now", "Better than Revenge", "Long Live" and "Back to December" are catching up. Fast. My one favorite changes every day.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 8, 2010 1:24:08 GMT -5
One of my students is writing her final paper over Enchanted :)
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Post by justlurkingaround on Nov 8, 2010 5:32:49 GMT -5
Losing 258 spins and around 1.5 million AIs in a day is normal for Taylor? Are you familiar with her history on country radio? I can't say that I've tirelessly scoured each of her previous single's daily losses so that I could say with accuracy such a loss (equal or greater) has happened before, but Taylor's singles have always fell really quickly (aside from maybe "Tim McGraw" and "Teardrops On My Guitar"). Ask any of the chart enthusiast in the country forum and they'll verify this (as she has always maintained a high burn-rate on the format for whatever reason). The chart run of "Love Story" in particular exemplifies this. I don't follow her country chart runs closely but Cary over at CarrieFans (the one who correctly predicted Mine's debut) said this is one of the biggest losses he has seen. So I'll take his word for it. But yeah, I know that she experiences higher burnouts than other country artists. I hope Back To December will have longevity. One of my students is writing her final paper over Enchanted :) That's really cool! I'd love to read it :) As for Superman.. I can't get myself to listen to that song.
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Post by maria4hitz on Nov 8, 2010 7:33:50 GMT -5
WOW, just WOW
1 SWIFT*TAYLOR SPEAK NOW 1,046,718 0 1,046,740 29 SWIFT*TAYLOR THE HOLIDAY COLLECTION 14,330 999 1,090 584,777 38 SWIFT*TAYLOR FEARLESS 9,638 41 6,833 6,049,843 58 SWIFT*TAYLOR TAYLOR SWIFT 7,273 53 4,746 4,837,706
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Nov 8, 2010 9:14:51 GMT -5
^^ Amazing. Add in Beautiful Eyes and Live in Soho, and she's got over 13million in album sales.
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Post by strikeleo on Nov 8, 2010 9:33:06 GMT -5
^^ Amazing. Add in Beautiful Eyes and Live in Soho, and she's got over 13million in album sales. There was an article posted here or on the BB200 thread that said she's over 13m, all albums added. It also said she has sold more than artists like John Mayer, Carrie Underwood, and somebody who I can't recall. It's amazing, considering she has had what, three years to do all of that? She became somewhat known in 2007, if I'm not mistaken. ETA - here, taken from an article from Billboard: "This week’s surge brings Swift’s career album sales to 13,036,000. This puts her ahead of such longer-established acts as John Mayer, Michael Buble and Carrie Underwood." that's kinda amazing.
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Post by Cerbius on Nov 8, 2010 11:40:24 GMT -5
WOW at that increase for the Holiday Collection. :o
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