Taproot - Release Me

[pen]

Boom shaka laka. Goes for adds September 13th per FMQB.

[jvandyck87]

YES! They listened to me and their own song title. I hope the label pushes the song so it can at least go top 30 on active.

[lockebox]

Niceee. Top 30 atleast, yes. I wish more of these Alt-metal were bigger on Active.

[Shadows in the Dark]

Top 50 on Active:

55 48 TAPROOT Release Me 106 91 15 0.154

[jvandyck87]

Another feat their previous album failed to manage, a second top 50 single!

Granted, "Path Less Taken" was deserving enough, it just wasn't timed ideally or pushed at all well. Hopefully "Release Me" can go top 30, but that bullet is gonna need some help.

[pen]

Sept 27, 2010 14:39:00 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

Granted, "Path Less Taken" was deserving enough, it just wasn't timed ideally or pushed at all well.

Well they were pushing it themselves, so it's only to be expected.

[lockebox]

Top 40 - Active

45 40 TAPROOT - Release Me 182 169 13 0.25

[Shadows in the Dark]

Good song, hopefully they'll be able to get a second charting single from an album again.

[jvandyck87]

^I'm guessing that you mean on Billboard Mainstream Rock given it's certainly charting already here. Or BDS Active Rock? This song has no shot at charting on Billboard Rock songs.

[Shadows in the Dark]

I meant the Mainstream Rock chart.

[jvandyck87]

Okie dokes. It's gonna be tough. It got a big bullet boost randomly one day, but has generally been losing spins since then. When that day falls into the Last Week column, this song may have a tough time rebounding. I'm guessing that it won't chart on Billboard, but I hope that it does.

[lockebox]

I'd say it'll sneak in, but I guess "Big Enough" & "Full of Regret" have a better chance of charting on Billboard, for the coming weeks atleast.

[Devin]

Hopefully "Full of Regret" will end up being Danko Jones highest charting single.

[lockebox]

Oct 31, 2010 21:33:49 GMT -5 Devin said:

Hopefully "Full of Regret" will end up being Danko Jones highest charting single.

I'd like to see that, it's been hovering around the top 50 for a couple of months now. The bullet is minute atm, however. "Big Enough" is also stong IMO. And the new Hail the Villain single has been getting plenty of adds Lots of solid new releases.

[Devin]

I Like seeing Canadian bands doing well on active :)

[lockebox]

Oct 31, 2010 21:44:28 GMT -5 Devin said:

I Like seeing Canadian bands doing well on active :)

Yeah other than Nickelback, Theory of a Deadman & Three Days Grace. You've still got Finger Eleven, Hail the Villain, My Darkest Days & The Veer Union doing well, with Art of Dying, Danko Jones, Default & Evans Blue on the outskirts of the chart.

I would still like to see bands like Age of Daze, Jet Black Stare, Parabelle, Social Code, Thornley & The Trews get a proper push to radio in the near future.

Think I've covered all possible Canadian Active rock contenders there.

[Devin]

The Trews really deserve to hit it big, but I think their time has passed. The best chance for them was "Not Ready to Go" in 2003 or whatever. That would have smashed on both formats if pushed properly.

And I wish Thornley had had a better album and lead single to release to the U.S. and Canada this time around. The single and album failed to hit the charts, sadly.

There are plently of Canadian bands that deserve to hit it big in the US, I just can't think of alot.

And is Evans Blue from Canada?

[lockebox]

Oct 31, 2010 22:14:55 GMT -5 Devin said:

The Trews really deserve to hit it big, but I think their time has passed. The best chance for them was "Not Ready to Go" in 2003 or whatever. That would have smashed on both formats if pushed properly.

And I wish Thornley had had a better album and lead single to release to the U.S. and Canada this time around. The single and album failed to hit the charts, sadly.

There are plently of Canadian bands that deserve to hit it big in the US, I just can't think of alot.

And is Evans Blue from Canada?

I thought their best chance was with "So She's Leaving". "Paranoid Freak" & "Hold Me In Your Arms" were also strong, but failed to do anything other than a few minor spins on Active.

Hm I've heard some of Thornley's new stuff and it sounds decent to me. "Make Believe" is a very solid lead single, perhaps not made for rock radio, though. A shame, after "So Far, So Good" hit the top 20 on Active and stayed there for awhile back in '04. I guess it's been too long for people to really remember them to get a US push.

I can think of plenty haha. Oh, also forgot to mention Our Lady Peace! They need another hit. And yes Evans Blue are from Toronto, I believe.

[Pipa]

Starewell and Joshua's Habit deserve to break out too, but I think they need to do that in Canada first.

[Devin]

I meant at the moment lol, and another is Billy Talent, Rush, Hedley (maybe not exactly directed to rock, but their first album and "She's So Sorry"), and Hollerado ("Juliette") just to name a few.

[lockebox]

Oct 31, 2010 22:33:18 GMT -5 Pipa said:

Starewell and Joshua's Habit deserve to break out too, but I think they need to do that in Canada first.

Never heard of them ha.

Oct 31, 2010 22:34:10 GMT -5 Devin said:

I meant at the moment lol, and another is Billy Talent, Rush, Hedley (maybe not exactly directed to rock, but their first album and "She's So Sorry"), and Hollerado ("Juliette") just to name a few.

Ah yes I missed Billy Talent. "Rusted from the Rain" wasn't too far from the top 50 on Active. I'm guessing their next lead single stands a legit chance of doing something there. As for Rush, they've come and gone. Hedley are awful. Hollerado could do something on Alt, but there's plenty of Canadian Indie bands that could do that tbf.

[jvandyck87]

Haha mentioning Rush in this context is funny to me. They're a borderline rock & roll hall of fame band getting lumped with fairly new Canadian bands that have seen little success as of yet in the U.S.

EDIT: I guess I see what you're saying a bit though. Rush is probably more respected by the music industry of Canada than US. But so many successful U.S. bands would cite Rush as an influence, and most histories of Rock & Roll in America mention Rush at the frontier of the progressive rock scene with Pink Floyd, Genesis, Yes, Kansas, and King Crimson.

[Devin]

"Rusted from the Rain" was close to top 50 on active? What about alternative, because they are an lternative/punk rock band.

Oh and Starewell is a good band. Check out "Broke and Out of Money" or "28" and see what you think.

[Pipa]

Oct 31, 2010 22:34:10 GMT -5 Devin said:

I meant at the moment lol, and another is Billy Talent, Rush, Hedley (maybe not exactly directed to rock, but their first album and "She's So Sorry"), and Hollerado ("Juliette") just to name a few.

Well if we mean the moment, then The Dudes, Armchair Cynics, Krome, The Respectables and Jonas and the Massive Attraction all deserve shots too.

And while I'm at it I think Christmas should be every day.

[lockebox]

Oct 31, 2010 22:40:19 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

Haha mentioning Rush in this context is funny to me. They're a borderline rock & roll hall of fame band getting lumped with fairly new Canadian bands that have seen little success as of yet in the US.

Haha I found that one funny too. Next The Tragically Hip will be mentioned. Hell, even Heart! (guessing they count as Canadian)

Oct 31, 2010 22:42:54 GMT -5 Devin said:

"Rusted from the Rain" was close to top 50 on active? What about alternative, because they are an lternative/punk rock band.

Oh and Starewell is a good band. Check out "Broke and Out of Money" or "28" and see what you think.

On Alternative it reached around the #70 mark I think (this was during that short period awhile ago where we could see the complete chart) I thought their last record was more leaning towards hard rock. "Rusted from the Rain" was particularly Active-friendly, sounding like "Jeff Buckley fronting Soundgarden" as Allmusic described it I was disappointed it didn't atleast chart.

And ok I shall check them out along with that weird sounding band that Pipa mentioned.

[Devin]

Oct 31, 2010 22:55:44 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Oct 31, 2010 22:40:19 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

Haha mentioning Rush in this context is funny to me. They're a borderline rock & roll hall of fame band getting lumped with fairly new Canadian bands that have seen little success as of yet in the US.

Haha I found that one funny too. Next The Tragically Hip will be mentioned. Hell, even Heart! (guessing they count as Canadian)

Oct 31, 2010 22:42:54 GMT -5 Devin said:

"Rusted from the Rain" was close to top 50 on active? What about alternative, because they are an lternative/punk rock band.

Oh and Starewell is a good band. Check out "Broke and Out of Money" or "28" and see what you think.

On Alternative it reached around the #70 mark I think (this was during that short period awhile ago where we could see the complete chart) I thought their last record was more leaning towards hard rock. "Rusted from the Rain" was particularly Active-friendly, sounding like "Jeff Buckley fronting Soundgarden" as Allmusic described it I was disappointed it didn't atleast chart.

And ok I shall check them out along with that weird sounding band that Pipa mentioned.

That's weird, because Billy Talent charted on Alt. first here in Canada (according to americasmusiccharts.com, which I find annoying for the canadian rock charts because songs like "Isolation" will probably chart on alt. before active ) , but end up peaking higher on Active. Same thing happened with Cage the Elephan and sorta Kings of Leon.

[Devin]

Oct 31, 2010 22:27:39 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Oct 31, 2010 22:14:55 GMT -5 Devin said:

The Trews really deserve to hit it big, but I think their time has passed. The best chance for them was "Not Ready to Go" in 2003 or whatever. That would have smashed on both formats if pushed properly.

And I wish Thornley had had a better album and lead single to release to the U.S. and Canada this time around. The single and album failed to hit the charts, sadly.

There are plently of Canadian bands that deserve to hit it big in the US, I just can't think of alot.

And is Evans Blue from Canada?

I can think of plenty haha. Oh, also forgot to mention Our Lady Peace! They need another hit.

I find it amusing that "Starseed" sounds like older Breaking Benjamin.
Actually, I'm amused that older Breaking Benjamin sounds like "Starseed".

[lockebox]

Oct 31, 2010 23:05:08 GMT -5 Devin said:

Oct 31, 2010 22:55:44 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Haha I found that one funny too. Next The Tragically Hip will be mentioned. Hell, even Heart! (guessing they count as Canadian)


On Alternative it reached around the #70 mark I think (this was during that short period awhile ago where we could see the complete chart) I thought their last record was more leaning towards hard rock. "Rusted from the Rain" was particularly Active-friendly, sounding like "Jeff Buckley fronting Soundgarden" as Allmusic described it I was disappointed it didn't atleast chart.

And ok I shall check them out along with that weird sounding band that Pipa mentioned.

That's weird, because Billy Talent charted on Alt. first here in Canada (according to americasmusiccharts.com, which I find annoying for the canadian rock charts because songs like "Isolation" will probably chart on alt. before active ) , but end up peaking higher on Active. Same thing happened with Cage the Elephan and sorta Kings of Leon.

Well, tbf when I looked on the Canadian Active rock chart they were an awful lot of indie/pop-rock bands on there, so I'm not exactly sure how the format is working. I mean "Amongst the Waves" & "Radioactive" are currently battling it out for top spot.

[jvandyck87]

Oct 31, 2010 20:44:18 GMT -5 jvandyck87 said:

Okie dokes. It's gonna be tough. It got a big bullet boost randomly one day, but has generally been losing spins since then. When that day falls into the Last Week column, this song may have a tough time rebounding. I'm guessing that it won't chart on Billboard, but I hope that it does.

And a day later:

42 43 TAPROOT Release Me 158 193 -35 0.2

:(

[Devin]

Oct 31, 2010 23:31:57 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Oct 31, 2010 23:05:08 GMT -5 Devin said:

That's weird, because Billy Talent charted on Alt. first here in Canada (according to americasmusiccharts.com, which I find annoying for the canadian rock charts because songs like "Isolation" will probably chart on alt. before active ) , but end up peaking higher on Active. Same thing happened with Cage the Elephan and sorta Kings of Leon.

Well, tbf when I looked on the Canadian Active rock chart they were an awful lot of indie/pop-rock bands on there, so I'm not exactly sure how the format is working. I mean "Amongst the Waves" & "Radioactive" are currently battling it out for top spot.

Radio stations need to change or adjust their playlists cuz they aren't who they say they are. For example, my local station, Oz-FM (CHOZ), is officially an "active rock" station, but they play a decent amount of alternative and indie. + they love Pearl Jam.

Another funny thing about my station is that it used to be a CHR station (or HAC, can't tell the difference in Canada ), but they played classic rock along side of it.