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Post by rodrigo on Oct 25, 2010 18:23:33 GMT -5
OMG @ When Christmas Comes! Amazing!
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Post by bruno on Oct 25, 2010 18:24:27 GMT -5
Do you mean " Born Is The King (Interlude)"? I think it shoud be a separate track... I think it should be not on the album. LOL I still can't believe that this album is so good! I'm in love with "Christmas Time is In The Air Again"!
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Post by Rεvôlvεr† on Oct 25, 2010 18:25:47 GMT -5
Oh god. She needs to stop with this ghetto mess. It's a Christmas song, not an R&B hit single.
I won't be listening to that version, I'll listen to her other version.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2010 18:26:41 GMT -5
LOL When Christmas Comes is the same chords as Mine Again in the chorus and everything
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Post by Illusions on Oct 25, 2010 18:28:26 GMT -5
Do you mean " Born Is The King (Interlude)"? I think it shoud be a separate track... I think it should be not on the album. :o Born is the King is great!
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Post by bruno on Oct 25, 2010 18:28:29 GMT -5
Oh god. She needs to stop with this ghetto mess. It's a Christmas song, not an R&B hit single. I won't be listening to that version, I'll listen to her other version. Which song are you talking about?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2010 18:30:26 GMT -5
IMO, JD ruined 'Here Comes Santa Claus' I dont think it should be on the album
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Post by JamaicaFunk² on Oct 25, 2010 18:33:35 GMT -5
I think Christmas Time is in the Air Again and Auld Lang Syne are the best.
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Post by rodrigo on Oct 25, 2010 18:40:32 GMT -5
here comes santa claus doesn't suck, but coulda been much better without JD and that thriller moment, lol
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Post by Gold Soundz on Oct 25, 2010 18:46:32 GMT -5
I really love Oh Santa!, When Christmas Comes, and Auld Sang Lyne, but his is her most inconsistent record since Glitter. I'm not a fan. It sucks to hear her sounding so incredible on all the belting and then use that heinous Charmbracelet whisper on the majority of the record.
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Post by Caution on Oct 25, 2010 18:47:12 GMT -5
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o @ When Christmas Comes
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2010 18:48:03 GMT -5
Here Comes Santa Claus and Auld Lang Syne are HORRIBLE and the All I Want For Christmas remix is just unnecessary. The rest of the album is good though. I like the new songs she did. She really did record more new songs that sound like Christmas classics. You would never think they were new compositions (except Oh Santa)
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Post by lambdoll on Oct 25, 2010 18:52:48 GMT -5
Someone PM me too please? :)
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Post by Gold Soundz on Oct 25, 2010 18:53:42 GMT -5
They don't really sound like classics to me. None of them will be hits, especially the Marc Shaimain ones because she whispers all over them and the public hates that. When Christmas Comes is a great song, but certainly no classic.
I usually get incredibly hyped up and love a Mariah album even if it's crap for about a week, unless it's actually good. There's no denying it this time for me: other than the 3 songs I mentioned, this record stinks. It reminds me of the first couple of times I listened to Glitter and CB. On the upside, her belting hasn't sounded this good since Butterfly or earlier. I'm looking forward to more of that on the next album.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2010 18:57:13 GMT -5
They don't really sound like classics to me. None of them will be hits, especially the Marc Shaimain ones because she whispers all over them and the public hates that. When Christmas Comes is a great song, but certainly no classic. I usually get incredibly hyped up and love a Mariah album even if it's crap for about a week, unless it's actually good. There's no denying it this time for me: other than the 3 songs I mentioned, this record stinks. It reminds me of the first couple of times I listened to Glitter and CB. On the upside, her belting hasn't sounded this good since Butterfly or earlier. I'm looking forward to more of that on the next album. Of course they dont sound like hits. They sound like they could have been written decades ago. O Holy Night wouldnt be a hit either. Theres a difference between a song that sounds like a Christmas classic and a song that sounds like a 2010 pop hit Also I dont see how people can compare this as an album to any of her other albums other than the other Christmas album. Maybe you can compare based on vocals or production but more than half of this album isnt even original material. I dont see how you can compare an album full of Christmas standards to Mariahs usual hitmaking R&B material
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Post by repentyourself on Oct 25, 2010 18:59:09 GMT -5
The whispers on this album are no where near as bad as the ones on Charmbracelet. Loving the whole album and her vocals, tbh.
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Post by r.enato on Oct 25, 2010 19:00:17 GMT -5
at Here Comes Santa Claus.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2010 19:02:20 GMT -5
The whispers on this album are no where near as bad as the ones on Charmbracelet. Loving the whole album and her vocals, tbh. I agree. The whispering on this album reminds me more of Memoirs, Butterfly, and some Glitter songs. The only comparison I would draw to Charmbracelet is that she probably does the whispery vocals more than she has on any album since then. Theyre not unpleasant like on that album though and at least she does belt on this album and its not even that unfrequent. I think some people were set up for disappointment because they heard those HSN clips of her belting her head off and they expected her to be doing it non stop from beginning to end on this album
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Post by r.enato on Oct 25, 2010 19:11:07 GMT -5
<3 One Child.
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Post by Gold Soundz on Oct 25, 2010 19:26:22 GMT -5
The whispers on this album are no where near as bad as the ones on Charmbracelet. Loving the whole album and her vocals, tbh. I agree. The whispering on this album reminds me more of Memoirs, Butterfly, and some Glitter songs. The only comparison I would draw to Charmbracelet is that she probably does the whispery vocals more than she has on any album since then. Theyre not unpleasant like on that album though and at least she does belt on this album and its not even that unfrequent. I think some people were set up for disappointment because they heard those HSN clips of her belting her head off and they expected her to be doing it non stop from beginning to end on this album Not at all. I just wasn't expecting none of her actual voice. The only tracks she doesn't whisper away or belt-whisper-belt-whisper are Oh Santa, When Christmas Comes, Auld Lang Syne, and AIWFCIY. It's just plain jarring to hear the belting and the whispering juxtaposed, especially since her belting is so much stronger now - her voice goes from sounding so powerful to this teeny tiny nothing from word-to-word...there's no flow whatsoever. It'd sound so much more natural if she just sang one song without being so overly-technical.
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Post by bruno on Oct 25, 2010 19:30:47 GMT -5
I'm in love with the whole album.
I think that my favorites right now would be:
4. Christmas Time is in Air Again 5. The First Noel/Born is the King Interlude 6. When Christmas Comes 8. Charlie Brown Christmas 9. O Come All Ye Faithful/Hallelujah Chorus Feat. Patricia Carey 11. One Child
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Post by mikeshere on Oct 25, 2010 19:37:19 GMT -5
Can Someone Plz PM ME!!!!!! Im At Work..
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Post by dbhmr on Oct 25, 2010 19:38:15 GMT -5
It's just plain jarring to hear the belting and the whispering juxtaposed, especially since her belting is so much stronger now - her voice goes from sounding so powerful to this teeny tiny nothing from word-to-word...there's no flow whatsoever. It'd sound so much more natural if she just sang one song without being so overly-technical. It's not really a matter of her being technical so much as ability. A lot of Mariah fans hate to hear this, but she has an extremely weak head voice in comparison to the rest of her vocal facets, and she sort of always has. Classically trained singers are taught to strengthen their head voice so that their notes and enunciation can be as clearly and audibly heard as using their chest voice, and those that have a strong head voice can actually make it quite loud, even on lower notes. Mariah's is a whisper because her head voice is weak, which is not uncommon with singers that are such phenomenal belters (where they spend most of their training). Even when you watch Mariah sing in head voice live, her face is very scrunched--she's having to work to keep her voice in that register and not switch to chest voice. I've never understood why she doesn't work on this if she wants to sing in head voice so much, but she clearly likes the whispering effect. I can't stand it. Glad to hear she sounds good belting. I'm not doing Christmas music now, but if I can stop playing her first Christmas CD long enough to listen to something new, I'll check this new album out. ;)
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Oct 25, 2010 19:41:20 GMT -5
dbhmr is completely right. Mariah's head voice is the weakest part of her voice, which is often very common with strong belters with big chest range.
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Post by repentyourself on Oct 25, 2010 19:42:49 GMT -5
I love her head voice when she's not whispering...
My favorite rn is 'Christmas Time is in the Air Again'. So good.
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Post by Gold Soundz on Oct 25, 2010 19:42:57 GMT -5
It's just plain jarring to hear the belting and the whispering juxtaposed, especially since her belting is so much stronger now - her voice goes from sounding so powerful to this teeny tiny nothing from word-to-word...there's no flow whatsoever. It'd sound so much more natural if she just sang one song without being so overly-technical. It's not really a matter of her being technical so much as ability. A lot of Mariah fans hate to hear this, but she has an extremely weak head voice in comparison to the rest of her vocal facets, and she sort of always has. Classically trained singers are taught to strengthen their head voice so that their notes and enunciation can be as clearly and audibly heard as using their chest voice, and those that have a strong head voice can actually make it quite loud, even on lower notes. Mariah's is a whisper because her head voice is weak, which is not uncommon with singers that are such phenomenal belters (where they spend most of their training). Even when you watch Mariah sing in head voice live, her face is very scrunched--she's having to work to keep her voice in that register and not switch to chest voice. I've never understood why she doesn't work on this if she wants to sing in head voice so much, but she clearly likes the whispering effect. I can't stand it. Glad to hear she sounds good belting. I'm not doing Christmas music now, but if I can stop playing her first Christmas CD long enough to listen to something new, I'll check this new album out. ;) I hear you. I think her head voice was pretty impressive up until Butterfly. I know a lot of fans love the whispering on that record, but I don't - I loved it on the first few records...it was much harder to tell it was her head voice. But yeah, it hasn't been nearly that strong since. The good news is that she sounds phenomenal belting again - probably as good as she has since Daydream. There's hardly any raspiness, and she's hitting highs that she definitely hasn't since that record...and it doesn't sound like she's screaming, either - there's tons of melisma and vibrato. It's just a shame that she spent 3/4 of this record using her head voice.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2010 19:44:32 GMT -5
It seems like people are saying her voice is the best its been since Daydream on each album since the Emancipation album. Is that really the case? Has it improved from album to album or is that just people getting excited each time due to her crappy live performances?
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Post by repentyourself on Oct 25, 2010 19:47:16 GMT -5
Did anyone really say her vocals on E=MC² were the best they've been since Daydream?
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Post by neverduplicated on Oct 25, 2010 19:48:36 GMT -5
Well, as usual, Mariah can't please everyone, but as usual, Mariah pleased me! I think the album is exceptional. Not as strong as it could have been, I'll admit. I think the "live" version of "O Holy Night" doesn't really need to be there (though doesn't really detract I suppose). Something about the bass line in "Here Comes Santa Claus" sounds off with the rest of the song. And I would have liked to have a song in the vein of "Joy to the World" or "Jesus Oh What a Wonderful Child" - a song where Mariah just really cuts loose and lets the spirit take her to a new place.
But overall this is another magical album from the timeless Mariah Carey. The vocals are brilliant. I don't know why some people have issues with the whispering. Her whisper singing is so soothing and buttery and the solemn tone of the whispers fit perfectly with the sort of subdued and reflective mood of songs like "Christmas Time is in the Air Again" and "Charlie Brown Christmas." I can sort of see why some don't like the songs that have quick transitions from whisper to belting, but I suppose I'm so used to it by now that I don't find it jarring. The orchestration is absolutely lush! The new songs are amazing. Gotta love "Oh Santa" for being another Mimi jam and her danciest song yet. "When Christmas Comes" is a stone-cold groovy wonderland, possibly the highlight of the whole album (also kudos to Mariah for transitioning into it with the "Born is the King" interlude, absolutely stellar). "One Child" sounds like it could be a traditional Christmas song. And "Christmas Time is in the Air Again" is just stunning. Sounds like it would be a perfect black-and-white movie song.
So overall, love the album and will be playing it this Christmas and years to come, just like the first. Wouldn't say this is better than the first, but wouldn't say it pales in comparison. It certainly does stand on its own two feet and the two albums together will make for a perfect Christmas playlist!
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Post by r.enato on Oct 25, 2010 19:51:51 GMT -5
And I would have liked to have a song in the vein of "Joy to the World" or "Jesus Oh What a Wonderful Child" - a song where Mariah just really cuts loose and lets the spirit take her to a new place. Yes! I totally agree!
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