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Post by Cerebro on Nov 11, 2006 10:00:38 GMT -5
Well, this week's #1 is, certainly, a surprise...
AMERICAN TOP 40 - NOVEMBER 11, 2006 LW TW WKS Artist - Title 39 40 (33) Shakira featuring Wyclef Jean - Hips Don't Lie 38 39 (34) Nickelback - Savin' Me 37 38 (26) Chamillionaire featuring Krayzie Bone - Ridin' 26 37 (05) Nelly Furtado - Maneater 27 36 (09) Chingy featuring Tyrese - Pullin' Me Back 36 35 (02) RBD - Tu Amor 33 34 (11) Frankie J. featuring Mannie Fresh and Chamillionaire - That Girl 40 33 (02) Diddy featuring Nicole Scherzinger - Come To Me 34 32 (11) Rascal Flatts - What Hurts The Most Extra: Yung Joc featuring Brandy "Ms. B." Hambrick - I Know You See It 30 31 (29) The All-American Rejects - Move Along Optional Extra: No Doubt - It's My Life 35 30 (04) Brooke Hogan featuring Paul Wall - About Us -- 29 (01) Fergie featuring Will.I.Am - Fergalicious 28 28 (19) Gnarls Barkley - Crazy Breakout: John Mayer - Waiting On The World To Change 29 27 (19) Cherish featuring Sean Paul of the YoungBloodZ - Do It To It 32 26 (02) Chris Brown - Say Goodbye 23 25 (16) Blue October - Hate Me 22 24 (24) Cassie - Me And U 25 23 (12) Ne-Yo - Sexy Love 20 22 (28) The Fray - Over My Head (Cable Car) 18 21 (14) E-40 featuring T-Pain and Kandi Girl - U And Dat Optional Extra: Nelly featuring City Spud - Ride Wit Me 17 20 (17) Sean Paul featuring Keyshia Cole - (When You Gonna) Give It Up To Me 15 19 (20) Christina Aguilera - Ain't No Other Man 21 18 (04) Christina Aguilera - Hurt 16 17 (24) Nelly Furtado featuring Timbaland - Promiscuous 19 16 (09) Ciara featuring Chamillionaire - Get Up 24 15 (03) Akon featuring Eminem - Smack That 09 14 (22) Panic! At The Disco - I Write Sins Not Tragedies 11 13 (10) Evanescence - Call Me When You're Sober 13 12 (06) Danity Kane - Show Stopper 10 11 (09) Snow Patrol - Chasing Cars Optional Extra: Nickelback - Someday 14 10 (05) The Fray - How To Save A Life 06 09 (14) Fergie - London Bridge (Oh S**t) 07 08 (22) The Pussycat Dolls featuring Snoop Dogg - Buttons 08 07 (15) Mario Vazquez - Gallery 12 06 (04) Ludacris featuring Pharrell - Money Maker 05 05 (08) Justin Timberlake featuring T.I. - My Love 01 04 (16) Justin Timberlake - SexyBack 04 03 (10) Hinder - Lips Of An Angel Optional Extra: Fall Out Boy - Sugar, We're Goin' Down 02 02 (13) Nickelback - Far Away 03 01 (12) JoJo - Too Little, Too Late ** 1 week @ no. 1 **
DROPPER: Nick Lachey - I Can't Hate You Anymore (from 31, 7 weeks on)
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Post by britneyrules on Nov 11, 2006 10:24:23 GMT -5
That certainly is shocking.
Nice to see Brooke jump to 30
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Post by mst3k on Nov 11, 2006 11:53:57 GMT -5
*waits for people to complain that "Nickelback was screwed out of a #1", even though we know that AT40 is based on affiliate airplay rather than the published Mediabase chart, and probably doesn't even use a Monday-Sunday tracking period anyway*
Yay JoJo!
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Post by ChartKid on Nov 11, 2006 12:31:03 GMT -5
Nickelback was screwed out of a #1.
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Post by mst3k on Nov 11, 2006 12:35:46 GMT -5
lol
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Post by richie on Nov 11, 2006 13:06:11 GMT -5
They don't get #1, but at least they get 3 songs played.
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Post by johnnywest on Nov 11, 2006 13:54:01 GMT -5
I don't think Brandy "Ms. B." Hambrick got an honerable mention.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 11, 2006 14:16:42 GMT -5
*waits for people to complain that "Nickelback was screwed out of a #1", even though we know that AT40 is based on affiliate airplay rather than the published Mediabase chart, and probably doesn't even use a Monday-Sunday tracking period anyway*
LMAO!!! Why you say that, it's not like it happens in every AT40 topic...!
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Post by Johnser on Nov 11, 2006 19:15:01 GMT -5
UnF'Nbelieveable. Thanks Ryan, for screwing Nickelback out of a #1. What's next, Hinder won't get #1 either? If there was ever a case for them to go back to the Mediabase 24/7 chart, this would most certainly be the case. This is BS.
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Post by Hervard on Nov 11, 2006 22:36:28 GMT -5
Well, this is definitely a first, for two factors - AT40 gets a song that never hit #1 in R&R and a song that hit #1 in R&R gets shafted by AT40. In the near-three year period that Ryan Seacrest has been hosting AT40, this has never happened before. In fact, for the first year and a half, the number one songs between AT40 and the R&R chart from the previous week had been the same. This chart looks closest to the October 27, 2006 R&R chart. A few weeks ago, I did a chart commentary. Here is another one: Only one debut this week, and it's a strong one - "Fergalicious" by Fergie featuring Will.i.am roars onto the chart at #29. It's two spots lower on the corresponding chart, but on the chart for the week after, it jumps into the Top 20. Wouldn't be surprised to see it do the same on AT40. The song that drops off is "I Can't Hate You Anymore" by Nick Lachey, which is at #33 on the matching R&R chart. *GROIN* That wasn't even one of the recurrents! Songs still on AT40 that have since moved to recurrent on the October 27 R&R chart: #22: Over My Head (Cable Car)/The Fray #24: Me & U/Cassie #31: Move Along/All-American Rejects #38: Ridin'/Chamillionaire f/Krayzie Bone #39: Savin' Me/Nickelback #40: Hips Don't Lie/Shakira f/Wyclef Jean Songs on the R&R chart that have not yet made it onto AT40: #32: Waiting On The World To Change/John Mayer (this week's Breakout Track) #38: When You Were Young/The Killers #39: It Ends Tonight/All-American Rejects #40: I Know You See It/Yung Joc f/Brandy "Ms. B" Hambrick (this song looks to be out of the running to hit the chart, since it falls to #40, without a bullet.) Songs still on the R&R chart that have since dropped off the AT40 chart: #33: I Can't Hate You Anymore/Nick Lachey (drops off this week) #35: Chain Hang Low/Jibbs (fell off last week) Biggest mover: #15: Smack That/Akon f/Eminem (up 9) Biggest dropper: #37: Maneater/Nelly Furtado (down 11; strangely enough, it makes the same drop on the November 3 R&R chart. Go figure!) Oldest song on the survey: #39: Savin' Me/Nickelback (34 weeks) (Honorable mention goes to "Hips Don't Lie" by Shakira f/Wyclef Jean, which has 33 weeks so far. Hopefully, that's it! And we've already discussed the #1 situation - JoJo managed to beat Nickelback to the punch. Johnser mentioned Hinder not getting #1 either. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to see "Money Maker" or maybe even "My Love" leapfrog over "Lips Of An Angel" as soon as next week!
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Post by mst3k on Nov 12, 2006 0:14:56 GMT -5
One possibility nobody's mentioned is that "Far Away" could hit #1 on AT40 next week. Although even if that happens people will still find something else to gripe about.
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Post by Cerebro on Nov 12, 2006 13:00:37 GMT -5
UnF'Nbelieveable. Thanks Ryan, for screwing Nickelback out of a #1. What's next, Hinder won't get #1 either? If there was ever a case for them to go back to the Mediabase 24/7 chart, this would most certainly be the case. This is BS. Not sure why everyone's up in arms about this. I don't think the chart was "manipulated" in any way. Looking at the Mediabase chart for 10/27 (which this chart seems to resemble closest), JoJo was only about 170 spins from #1 by the final update. In fact, I believe she even hit #1 for an update or two the next day. Given such a narrow margin, AT40's different reporting panel and, most likely, a different tracking period, all these factors could've created just enough variance to give JoJo a slight edge. As for why Nickelback wasn't #1 last week, one need only look at the 10/20 final update to note that Nickelback was ahead by less then 150 spins. It's not hard to believe that they could've missed out, because the same factors were in play. People think Nickelback were "screwed". I don't think so. The numbers just happened to be very tight during the two weeks they topped the Mediabase chart. By the 11/3 final update, there was a bit more breathing room near the top. I think Hinder will, most certainly, take over next week.
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Post by damnnnitzzjohn on Nov 12, 2006 13:11:41 GMT -5
Thanks for the charts
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Post by ChartKid on Nov 12, 2006 13:14:18 GMT -5
I wouldn't be surprised if Nickelback only spent 1 week at #1 on R&R, but to spend consecutive weeks there and JT getting 2 more weeks at #1? I don't like it. I know I'm being biased since I love "Far Away", especially since I was waiting in anticipation for almost a year for it to chart since buying the album.
I guess I'm just bitter that the only song to hit #1 on R&R and not AT40 is the one song I love the most since they stopped using R&R :(
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Post by billme on Nov 12, 2006 15:32:36 GMT -5
Adding fuel to the fire, the other Clear Channel countdown Hollywood Hamiltion's Top 30 Countdown has Nickelback at #1 JoJo #2 Hinder #3 & Justin #4.
How can two shows with very similar reporting panels differ with their choice of #1? Something doesn't add up...
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Post by mst3k on Nov 12, 2006 17:17:00 GMT -5
Adding fuel to the fire, the other Clear Channel countdown Hollywood Hamiltion's Top 30 Countdown has Nickelback at #1 JoJo #2 Hinder #3 & Justin #4. How can two shows with very similar reporting panels differ with their choice of #1? Something doesn't add up... Not every station carries both countdowns (I know mine doesn't). And, as mentioned above, it's possible that the shows have different tracking periods. Hollywood Hamilton may use Monday to Sunday, and AT40 may use Wednesday to Tuesday (just as an example). Also already mentioned, consider how close the top three songs were in spins on the "official" Mediabase chart recently (around the time that Jojo hit #1 on a mid-week update... there was less than 200 spins separating #1 from #3). It's really not surprising that there's a shuffling of positions there, even with only minor panel differences.
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 12, 2006 17:34:13 GMT -5
MAYBE one panel had a spin difference of 12 with Jojo winning and the other had a spin difference of 4 with Nickelback winning?!?1
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Post by mst3k on Nov 12, 2006 17:51:52 GMT -5
^ There ya go! It's not that hard to understand, right?
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Post by popmusicaddict on Nov 12, 2006 18:06:52 GMT -5
Are you guys kidding me right now? COMMON!!! The acclaimed with big quotes and eyebrow raising '#1 song last week, SexyBack' drops from #1 to #4???
Are you people honestly gonna buy that with how close the race was on ANY airplay chart those weeks? There's no way Sexyback in a week dropped 3 positions, I don't give a damn about the affiliates. Unless you decide to use what the affilates chart at for last week then use Medibase 24/7 as posted the next week (minus 2 weeks) there's just no way. I'm not gonna complain about Jojo being #1 (even though she was #1 for a whole 18 hours or so on mediabase), cuz the ARC Weekly Top 40 chart dubbed her as #1 too, I AM gonna complain about Nickelback being screwed - cuz they #1 on every damn other airplay chart feasible for at least 1 week (most 2)
Jez I guess Ryan WAS pissed off that Nickelback never answers his calls like he said 3 weeks ago haha, cuz I don't care what anyone here says that was a Royaleee screwing >:(
Lol Admin if Nickelback gains #1 next week they are smoking the budda - more than likely Hinder will be #1 since Jojo was #1 for like a day lol.
Hahaha Hips Don't Lie still on mwahaha, this is the week it was rising in spins too so might stay solid and block another song from debut ><
I didn't hear the honorable mention to Hips btw... Anyway I call rigged, when the race was that close for almost 3 weeks you can say Joe Bob got the #1 song this week and get away with it.
At least the optional Extra's this week kicked ass lol
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Post by popmusicaddict on Nov 12, 2006 18:18:36 GMT -5
Staff: 'Dang boss, this 3 way race for #1 is too close...its gonna take awhile to research this boss!' Ryan: 'NO overtime, we can't afford that s**t!' Staff: 'What we gonna do boss? We go live soon!' Ryan: 'Hmm..Ok whoever I can reach gets #1 this week!' Staff: 'Good idea boss!' **Ryan calls Chad from Nickelback** Ryan: 'Damn, those #%@ers never answer my calls! Call Jojo!' Jojo: 'Hello?' Ryan: 'Sweet, congratulations Jojo, your song is #1!' Jojo: 'Yay!' Ryan: 'Yes Congratulations...so does that mean I can date your mom yet?'
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Post by EmersonDrive13Rocks on Nov 12, 2006 19:13:02 GMT -5
lmao at your post popmusicaddict.
The AT 40 chart could also be based on airplay in which case JoJo was beating Nickelback but then again Justin was still beating them both in AI so who knows.
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Post by billme on Nov 12, 2006 22:57:18 GMT -5
Yes, the phone call to JoJo this week makes this a strong case for some number fudging or use of a dartboard. Without a published chart, we will never know the truth & staff members will not show any data to prove JoJo really was #1. It's just another nail in the coffin for "real" chart fans.
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Post by mst3k on Nov 13, 2006 0:18:39 GMT -5
Heh... lots of Oliver Stones posting here. ;)
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Post by johnm1120 on Nov 13, 2006 0:19:40 GMT -5
Hmmm... the song that AT40 snubbs for #1 is the same song that KIIS refused to add.
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Post by Chromeozone on Nov 13, 2006 0:44:45 GMT -5
you people are nuts
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Post by Hervard on Nov 13, 2006 11:51:26 GMT -5
Macadamia or Filbert? ??? Hahaha Hips Don't Lie still on mwahaha, this is the week it was rising in spins too so might stay solid and block another song from debut. I didn't hear the honorable mention to Hips btw... Ryan didn't mention it on the show. It's just part of my commentary for the show.
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Post by victorvector on Nov 13, 2006 15:57:44 GMT -5
Chad: We didn't get to #1 on AT40! Let's disband & never record or perform again!
other guys in Nickleback: ok
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Post by Rose "Payola" Nylund on Nov 13, 2006 16:20:33 GMT -5
^ There ya go! It's not that hard to understand, right?
You'd think so, but nope.
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Post by popmusicaddict on Nov 13, 2006 20:15:01 GMT -5
^ There ya go! It's not that hard to understand, right?
You'd think so, but nope.Sorry guys, realize I probably went a little crazy yesterday and overreacted - I'm not even a big Nickelback fan lol...just a bad day overall and I guess I decided to take it on AT40 lol. I shoulda probably left it with the sarcastic phone call post instead of ranting on. But if you actually think about it its the thing that's keeping the show interesting. I mean if AT40 went EXACTLY to the T by the Sunday evening update of Mediabase 24/7 published stations chart the whole show would be too predictable and rather boring (especially now that Ryan is being lazy and not announcing alot of drop/rise positions), making it even worse if it only went by currents (even though he keeps recurrents on a little excessively long, blocking alot of debuted songs). Making it differ slightly makes for surprises, not at all saying this was a GOOD surprise one bit or a justified surprise..just something to differ. Granted its not like even more than 10% of the listeners look at Mediabase charts, it keeps those 10% wondering.
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