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Post by jams on Nov 22, 2010 10:35:40 GMT -5
As much as I am annoyed that Beiber won, I would rather see fans vote than the industry voting. Having Taylor get a sympathy Grammy and sing wth Stevie Nicks was way worse than all of the s**tty AMA stuff. The Grammys are all political. You just proved my point. The Grammys sucked for you because you don't think Taylor deserved to win...but had your favorites won, you would have no problem with it. They can't please everyone...fans will always be biased and complain about any award show where their favorites don't win (or their least favorites do win). Anyways this is a good review of the performances: latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2010/11/american-music-awards-2010-live-all-the-performances-as-they-happen.htmlNo, actually I don't like any of the industry based award shows. I'd rather watch the Golden Globes or the AMA's than the Oscars or the Grammys.
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Post by jams on Nov 22, 2010 10:42:53 GMT -5
I don't really agree with the LA Times Reviews, I agreed with EW much more.
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Post by tshawn74 on Nov 22, 2010 10:50:37 GMT -5
I hate fan-voted award shows. It makes it much less honorable. Fans give artists their votes all the time by purchasing singles and albums. The industry should be voting on these awards. I get so sick of hearing this sh.it. This is the damn AMAs. You're supposed to vote for your favorites. Not vote for who you "think" deserves it more or who you think sold the most records. Last night, all I kept hearing was, "I can't believe Usher beat Chris Brown!", "I can't believe Rihanna beat Alicia Keys!", "I can't believe Justin Bieber beat Lady Gaga!" I CAN BELIEVE IT!!!They have a huge and loyal fan base which is why they keep winning these awards. I'm a Janet stan. If she and Rhianna were nominated for the same award and Ri won, I would be upset, of course. But, I wouldn't be surpised, either. Let's face it, Miss Janet is not as popular as she was 25 years ago.
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Post by elementd5 on Nov 22, 2010 10:52:25 GMT -5
No, actually I don't like any of the industry based award shows. I'd rather watch the Golden Globes or the AMA's than the Oscars or the Grammys. And how is the Golden Globes not an industry based award show?
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Post by F.A.M.O.U.S. on Nov 22, 2010 11:45:22 GMT -5
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Post by passionformusic on Nov 22, 2010 13:25:24 GMT -5
I don't really agree with the LA Times Reviews, I agreed with EW much more. So you are saying that Taylor was best of the night? I found yahoo music review very entertaining.
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Post by Eqbk on Nov 22, 2010 13:53:50 GMT -5
I just cant! I dont like lady gaga but she has more twitter followers than justin so i knew something was wrong with him winning that! Gaga may have more twitter followers but Bieber's fanbase is more rabid, which is why he wins pretty much every fan-voted award he's up for. I'll use another example, Alicia and Sade have a bigger built-in fan base than Rihanna but I highly doubt Alicia and Sade fans spent their time voting endlessly just so they can win an AMA. That's why Rihanna won over them.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 22, 2010 13:55:32 GMT -5
Preliminary ratings:
Overall viewers: 11.7 million Adults 18-49: 4.3 rating (-22% from 2009's prelim rating, and lowest-rated ever among Adults 18-49)
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 22, 2010 15:28:49 GMT -5
so did chris brown 100% win that award?
so i missed these awards. anyone that can help me: favorite soundtrack, fav male rap/hip hop artitst, and fav rap/hip hop albm
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Post by strikeleo on Nov 22, 2010 15:40:39 GMT -5
The industry votes for the Grammy awards and still people complain. Basically, the awards suck when your favorites don't win. As much as I am annoyed that Beiber won, I would rather see fans vote than the industry voting. Having Taylor get a sympathy Grammy and sing wth Stevie Nicks was way worse than all of the s**tty AMA stuff. The Grammys are all political. Taylor won every way possible last year, and if you don't recall, she won artist of the year at the AMAs too... No matter what your thoughts are, they are irrelevant when it comes to this: The Grammys thought Taylor's album was the best of the year, deal with it. I'm not saying that because I like Taylor, I'm saying it mostly because I never got the whole not fair argument. Your opinion is not the center of the world, and there are far better people able to judge than you, so, it's like, learn to cope.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Nov 22, 2010 16:12:37 GMT -5
Awards aren't always given on merit. That's all I have to say.
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Post by jj99$ - - LeLe on Nov 22, 2010 16:28:29 GMT -5
so did chris brown 100% win that award? so i missed these awards. anyone that can help me: favorite soundtrack, fav male rap/hip hop artitst, and fav rap/hip hop albm it seems like breezy did win Soundtrack - Glee Male rap/hip hop - Eminem Rap/hip hop Album - Eminem
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Post by Epic Fail on Nov 22, 2010 16:59:09 GMT -5
so did chris brown 100% win that award? so i missed these awards. anyone that can help me: favorite soundtrack, fav male rap/hip hop artitst, and fav rap/hip hop albm no he did not its all random twitter speculation with noithing remotely legitmate giving it any credibility.
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Post by passionformusic on Nov 22, 2010 16:59:57 GMT -5
Awards aren't always given on merit. That's all I have to say. What a useless political nonsense.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 22, 2010 17:25:42 GMT -5
Course awards (and nominations) aren't always given on merit- the Grammys are exhibit A on that front. The AMAS, though, you never doubted that, as it's always been about "Favorite" and, in more recent years, fan voting. Although it still says that airplay, sales, etc. factor in- so, what, fans determine the final nominees and then also vote on them?
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Nov 22, 2010 18:03:14 GMT -5
THRfeed.com:
Bieber Bust: AMAs Hit All-Time Ratings Low 11:47 AM 11/22/2010 by James Hibberd
ABC's telecast of the American Music Awards dropped in the ratings Sunday night as NBC's football coverage surged.
The AMAs drew 11.6 million viewers and a 4.3 preliminary adults 18-49 rating, down 22% from 2009. Moreover, the telecast stands as the lowest-rated AMAs yet.
Teen sensation Justin Bieber swept the awards, taking home four statues including Artist of the Year. He overthrew Eminem, who had garnered the most nominations.
ABC pointed out the show was up 12% in teens and 19% among kids 2-11, if only that was the network's target audience.
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Post by Rumors on Nov 22, 2010 18:44:07 GMT -5
Preliminary ratings: Overall viewers: 11.7 million Adults 18-49: 4.3 rating (-22% from 2009's prelim rating, and lowest-rated ever among Adults 18-49) I didn't watch the show but these ratings say it all. There's really nothing to enjoy if you are over 25 and actually want to hear some good live singing. Look for this show to bite the dust soon enough. Then there really won't be much left if you aren't country or can't perform on one of the BET shows.
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Post by dbhmr on Nov 22, 2010 18:55:40 GMT -5
I totally don't understand why Katy and Taylor don't improve their vocal game. Like, what would be lost, honestly? They both seem to have something to work with to at least put on competent live performances, but they just seem...ambivalent to the idea. Rihanna's vocals, while still definitely shaky, have nevertheless improved, and probably will continue to as she works on it. I just don't get it. I mean, I guess people are drinking the Taylor Kool Aid and praising performances like this enough for her to think that maybe she doesn't have to, but everyone has called out Katy's poor Firework performances since day one. This sounds like a rant, but I'm genuinely curious.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 22, 2010 18:56:08 GMT -5
Preliminary ratings: Overall viewers: 11.7 million Adults 18-49: 4.3 rating (-22% from 2009's prelim rating, and lowest-rated ever among Adults 18-49) All because of the lack of Country Music representation. Had Carrie, Lady A, Miranda, Brad, or Jason performed, ratings would've been much higher. At least in my opinion. That's the only big difference from last year beside the Boy Band reunion, but clearly, that wasn't a ratings drawer.
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Post by Fat Ass Kelly Price on Nov 22, 2010 19:05:33 GMT -5
I don't know how people lambasted other performances like Miley's or Kid Rock's for being boring or possibly having poor vocals, but then praised Taylor's. It just doesn't add up to me. That is all.
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Post by pnobelysk on Nov 22, 2010 19:47:05 GMT -5
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Post by out of reach on Nov 22, 2010 21:37:42 GMT -5
I don't know why I expect some of the biggest stars to be able to sing and perform. Even some of my favorites we're lame(Santana).
The only performances to me that stands out is Kid Rock's and Pink's for actually being able to sing live and having energy in her performance. These rest we're lame for various reasons. I don't see how anyone can say Taylor's performance was good. Maybe not bad but only because most of the others we're horrific.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 22, 2010 22:34:46 GMT -5
carrieidol, the CMAS also saw a ratings decline this year (and one of its lowest-rated shows). So who knows how the AMAS would have benefited form having more country acts perform.
Miley isn't a technical prowess, but there's no denying the girl emotes passion when performing and gives it her best.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 22, 2010 22:53:53 GMT -5
carrieidol, the CMAS also saw a ratings decline this year (and one of its lowest-rated shows). So who knows how the AMAS would have benefited form having more country acts perform. Miley isn't a technical prowess, but there's no denying the girl emotes passion when performing and gives it her best. That is 100% false. The CMAs had a slight decline, but still managed to rule throughout all the major networks. The CMAs were down 4%, The AMAs were down 22%. The CMAs certainly didn't see one of their "lowest-rated shows" this year. A link to this info is provided below. - blog.zap2it.com/frominsidethebox/2010/11/tv-ratings-cma-awards-dominate-wednesday.html
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Post by HolidayGuy on Nov 22, 2010 23:05:07 GMT -5
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Post by KeepDeanWeird on Nov 22, 2010 23:13:55 GMT -5
The main reason the rating were so low: Beiber Backlash. I think when people saw all the nominations and promotion of him, they thought it was going to be a kiddie show and that turned alot of people off. Let's face it, unlike previous Teen Idols, Beiber doesn't have the string of RADIO hits necessary to make him anything more the a goofy kid with hair. Think Aaron Carter v. Backstreet Boys. LOL.
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Post by elementd5 on Nov 22, 2010 23:58:40 GMT -5
The main reason the rating were so low: Beiber Backlash. I think when people saw all the nominations and promotion of him, they thought it was going to be a kiddie show and that turned alot of people off. Let's face it, unlike previous Teen Idols, Beiber doesn't have the string of RADIO hits necessary to make him anything more the a goofy kid with hair. Think Aaron Carter v. Backstreet Boys. LOL. Except Justin moves albums and sells tour tickets, unlike Mr. Carter.
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Post by bigbluenote on Nov 23, 2010 0:23:03 GMT -5
I think the main reason the ratings were low is a combination of 2 things:
First, as people have mentioned, Country music wasn't represented at all here. Carrie, Lady A, and/or Brad didn't perform. That would have made a good chunk of people tune in.
Second, the performance line up was horrible. Kid Rock isn't gonna draw in viewers. Miley? Come on, Justin Bieber was already there. Only one teeny bopper necessary. Diddy Dirty Money wasn't gonna do it. They could have picked EITHER Bon Jovi or Santana for that "older" crowd. Not both. Ne Yo? He's not even prominent right now.
Mike Posner had one of the biggest hits of the past year. Same goes for Taio Cruz. Where the heck was Lady Gaga? I know she hasn't had anything new in a few months, but anyone that likes Gaga wouldn't have cared. Linkin Park is pretty big, even with the lack of radio success as of late.
I know Avril is going to have a new single in a couple months. That should have been moved to NOW. The AMA's could have advertised with "a huge comback" for Avril. She's huge enough that that would have drawn more viewers....... And it's too bad Britney didn't have anything new.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 23, 2010 1:30:22 GMT -5
I don't think the line-up was weak from a business perspective-they had pretty much every single huge current star out there right now. Like, literally look at who is ruling the charts and they were pretty much there except for maybe 1-2 people. I do think that our biggest current stars don't quite have the draw you would expect the biggest stars out there to have though. Not necessarily a problem with AMAs choices, but perhaps a sign of something else. I think it is a good point about marketing though-there was no hyped reason to watch.
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Post by out of reach on Nov 23, 2010 2:04:31 GMT -5
I totally don't understand why Katy and Taylor don't improve their vocal game. Like, what would be lost, honestly? They both seem to have something to work with to at least put on competent live performances, but they just seem...ambivalent to the idea. My take is that they are to a degree but either don't care or can't really improve much. Their fanbases sure don't seem to care. At this point they have learned not to listen to critics, as long as they sell, everything is good for them and their label.
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