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Post by atlantaboy on Nov 7, 2010 10:34:14 GMT -5
Agree that She Wolf was a bad decision - I sitll can't believe she recorded that, and no one said anything to her about it
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Post by fullhousefan on Nov 7, 2010 13:01:04 GMT -5
#1 would be the record label that decided the Beatles weren't worthy of being signed. Sure they were kicking themselves and still are. =D
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Post by fullhousefan on Nov 7, 2010 13:01:38 GMT -5
Agree that She Wolf was a bad decision - I sitll can't believe she recorded that, and no one said anything to her about it really i thought she wolf was AWESOME! way better than hips dont lie that song blows.
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Post by Dammn Baby on Nov 7, 2010 16:20:43 GMT -5
Agree that She Wolf was a bad decision - I sitll can't believe she recorded that, and no one said anything to her about it really i thought she wolf was AWESOME! way better than hips dont lie that song blows.
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Post by Envoirment on Nov 7, 2010 16:26:59 GMT -5
#1 would be the record label that decided the Beatles weren't worthy of being signed. Sure they were kicking themselves and still are. =D +1, plus the current label in control of their material NOT putting it on itunes. They could still be selling millions worldwide in total sales if it were available. Another I can think of that hasn't been mentioned is Leona Lewis - Echo The album itself is good and had quite a few potential singles. But it started with Happy, then ended there. It sold 1.5m which isn't bad, but completely killed Leona's momentum leftover from Spirit and because of it, the next album is either make or break for Leona IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2010 18:41:47 GMT -5
#1 would be the record label that decided the Beatles weren't worthy of being signed. Sure they were kicking themselves and still are. =D That would be Decca records, and I'm sure they still are.
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Post by brian515 on Nov 8, 2010 4:20:39 GMT -5
Agree that She Wolf was a bad decision - I sitll can't believe she recorded that, and no one said anything to her about it really i thought she wolf was AWESOME! way better than hips dont lie that song blows. Yeah She Wolf is a great song.
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Post by neverduplicated on Nov 8, 2010 4:51:34 GMT -5
Agree that She Wolf was a bad decision - I sitll can't believe she recorded that, and no one said anything to her about it really i thought she wolf was AWESOME! way better than hips dont lie that song blows. She Wolf the song was decent, though not as good as Hips Don't Lie. When I said She Wolf was a mistake, I was referring more to the album as a whole, which isn't bad, but just doesn't sound much like Shakira and pales in comparison to every other album she's released.
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Post by shawnshamrock on Nov 8, 2010 17:35:46 GMT -5
I can't understand that either. They would be super huge right now. They can write their own stuff that's a given! However if they get some more writers and release more like Leave the pieces. They could easily steal some of Taylor Swift's audience. So why they broke up and wanted to pursue solo careers I will never know. All is the same they did not have a very good relationship with their fans prior to the demise of the wreckers. If you were a member of the now defunct Wrecker's message board. All the drama you would know what I mean.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Nov 8, 2010 19:55:06 GMT -5
Janet showing off her Boob at the SB in front of millions of viewers would certainly qualify. Janet gifting "Wackend" Janet + Jermaine Dupri producing Janet for giving LA Reid complete creative control over her music. Michael Jackson inviting kids to sleep in his bed. Madonna for getting her videos banned all the time Mariah "Glitter - Loverboy" Christina for being a c*nt! Mary J Blige for sounding bad on a record. Whitney Houston for sounding bad on a record an in concert.
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Post by josuem1415 on Nov 8, 2010 22:09:12 GMT -5
Releasing She Wolf (Album). Well, not really. She had Men In This Town, Mon Amour, She Wolf and Why Wait which were all very strong songs. It's just the rest of the songs where... not her.
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Post by halo19 on Dec 5, 2010 3:53:31 GMT -5
R. Kelly - pretty much everything in the last decade. Anyone remember the 2005 VMA performance?
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Post by Tea-why on Dec 10, 2010 11:26:20 GMT -5
^ I do lol I was so embarrassed for him.
I love this thread. All of the ones I've thought of have already been mentioned.
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Post by Tea-why on Dec 10, 2010 11:39:34 GMT -5
Janet showing off her Boob at the SB in front of millions of viewers would certainly qualify. Janet gifting "Wackend" Janet + Jermaine Dupri producing Janet for giving LA Reid complete creative control over her music. Michael Jackson inviting kids to sleep in his bed. Madonna for getting her videos banned all the time Mariah "Glitter - Loverboy" Christina for being a c*nt! Mary J Blige for sounding bad on a record. Whitney Houston for sounding bad on a record an in concert. These. Especially the Michael one.
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Post by Myeahhh. on Feb 27, 2011 3:18:16 GMT -5
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Post by Jack on Feb 27, 2011 3:20:13 GMT -5
She Wolf is an amazing song.
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Post by Purple Dreams on Feb 27, 2011 6:59:21 GMT -5
I like She Wolf the song a lot. As for the album, it's nice but quite generic. I also think releasing Did It Again was a huge mistake-IMO it isn't single worthy at all and ruined the album's momentum in Europe which up til then hadn't been doing that bad and could have had more success.
I also think American LIfe the video has a HUGE mistake. Just bad timing. And Hard Candy was a bad decision-the fact that she worked with overexposed producers and also her image. Up til then I thought her image had been evolving quite well-during the COnfessions era she was sexy and classy but during Hard Candy it seemed like she was suffering from a midlife crisis.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2011 7:35:04 GMT -5
I'm sure it's been mentioned before but: Radar.
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Post by Arabella21 on Feb 27, 2011 13:35:11 GMT -5
American Idol Edition
My December: going from selling 6 million albums and ruling to pop radio, to the label publicly trashing her next album and essentially helping it tank, the situation should've been avoided at all costs. The whole dispute between Kelly and RCA probably could have been worked out by something like Kelly doing an Unplugged special/album towards the end of the Breakaway era. Alicia Keys did one in late 2005, so it's not like MTV wouldn't have been cooperativeat the time. Artists can sneak in some new originals amongst the covers, but since it's Unplugged, people are understanding and even appreciative that the sound isn't quite so slick. It would have been a nice way for Kelly to get some new creative satisfaction without the expense/expectations of a studio album.
"No Boundaries": It came a year after "The Time of My Life", a genuine hitt, and was known to be written at least in part by Kara DioGuardi, Idol judge/real-world songwriter. So people were hoping it would be somewhat good, if not better, than the previous year's song? Instead it bombed with two very different performers singing it, and had Kara apologizing for writing it, with over 20 million people watching. The thing was totally DOA. Just imagine if Kara & Company had pulled off a decent-to-good effort instead. A solid Hot AC song in the vein of ToML on the radio all summer long would've done wonders for Kris Allen's image and album prospects, and also helped follow-up "Live Like We're Dying" become a more immediate hit. Perhaps that would've been enough to bump him into Jordin territory, and Idol the TV show goes into Season 9 not being so desperate about "getting it right" with the next winner (they tried too hard to the point where it backfired and led to a winner they really didn't want).
Adam Lambert's debut era: When he was signed, I think 19/RCA expected more than some nice touring stats, plus a hit and half (a hit and two-thirds?) in America. You had a guy praised on Idol for an insane vocal range, with the media somewhat seriously making Plant/Mercury/Perry comparisons. A lead single that made people think, "Wow, what a voice!" by the 30, 45-second mark might have been a good move. It's perfectly possible to do that with a dance track, just not with "For Your Entertainment". Also, launching an openly gay male artist in America in 2009 was going to have certain issues, certain double standards: unfortunate, but a reality. Did none of the execs think that maybe a lead single with a barely-disguised subtext about screwing the world into submission was...not the best idea? Going with FYE also brought what happened at the AMAs, leading to a certain amount of skittishness at radio about all of his music that lingered for months. If they'd started out with "Whataya Want From Me" in Sept./Oct. 2009, it still goes over really well, but maybe even better without having to work against FYE's baggage. The first two singles (one fast, one slow) shouldn't have been boring, just not "threatening" to people on the fence about a gay male singer, so then they're a bit more comfortable about playing his music going forward. Success gives you a certain amount of leeway to push the envelope a bit more in the future (singles 3 and 4). With all the right moves, I think Adam's album could've sold in the 1.5 million range. Instead, it's like they started out by setting the envelope on fire. Bad strategy.
Idol having no idea how to promote anyone who wasn't readily "commercial" for years: Carrie would've sold just as much if Bo had recorded a more Southern rock album in 2005 (maybe a milder Kid Rock sound) and his fans would've liked it more, plus it might have won over people who like that kind of music but don't watch AI. Ditto with Taylor Hicks being molded into some sort of AC recording artist a year later, just pointless. Ruben's fans might have stayed around for the long haul if that first album had been more Smooth R&B and less "Sorry 2004". America's not going to vote for someone super contemporary every year, or always pick the winner the producers like. Maybe learning how to put together a respectable album anyway would've been a good idea? But they were spoiled by the days of a winner or runner up selling 500K even with a half-assed effort.
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Post by out of reach on Feb 27, 2011 17:39:56 GMT -5
Kelly and Adam seemed to have wethered the storm but I was shaking my head at where his career was going after the AMAs he is very lucky to have accomplished what he has since, he's still poised to have a major breakthrough album next.
Xtina's latest effort and then promoting her on every major television show, nothing worse than trying to promote a flop. Miley Cyrus and her latest effort trying to compete in the adult pop market.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Feb 28, 2011 18:13:39 GMT -5
Justin ripping Janet's braw off at the SuperBowl ended her recording career for the most part. People say Beyonce killed Janet's career but really it was Justin.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2011 22:47:10 GMT -5
Signing these 3 and promoting the piss out of them.
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Post by Peaches. [Ch, r. is] on Feb 28, 2011 22:52:38 GMT -5
Not sure id this has been said but...
Allowing Lee DeWyze to make music.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Feb 28, 2011 23:31:20 GMT -5
Off the top of my head, Fifteen as the fourth single from Fearless. I think it only got top ten on both formats because of her momentum. There were so many other songs so ready to be catered as singles.
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Post by Eqbk on Mar 1, 2011 0:09:59 GMT -5
Britney & Janet associating themselves w/ Justin Timberlake.
After the break-up, Britney just wanted to take a break and be left alone but Justin just wouldn't let the media spotlight go off of her. He continually fueled the media in order to further his own career. The constant media attention and scrutiny Britney received post break-up likely contributed (at least partly) to her emotional breakdown.
Justin Timberlake was the one who pulled off the part that revealed Janet's breast. So if it was a wardrobe malfunction, the blame should have been mostly directed at him or the seamstress who made Janet's outfit. Instead it went to Janet and Justin basically deserted her and let her take all the blame in order to save his own career.
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Post by ClevelandRox on Mar 1, 2011 0:29:13 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't believe Justin got NO BACKLASH for the Superbowl incident. It pisses me off how he can do no wrong.
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Post by PDC1987 on Mar 1, 2011 0:33:04 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't believe Justin got NO BACKLASH for the Superbowl incident. It pisses me off how he can do no wrong. Well, the box office grosses for all but 2 of his films prove he can do plenty wrong. Mind you one of those movies had 'Shrek' in the title and the other had the name David Fincher and a topical premise attached to it.
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Post by LoveKiller on Mar 1, 2011 13:47:37 GMT -5
1. Diddy deciding to rip apart Danity Kane, the most successful act on his label, just so he could make a group with Dawn 2. PCD deciding to release an album full of ballads and mid-tempos, alienating 99% of their fans
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Post by Deleted on Mar 1, 2011 14:02:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I can't believe Justin got NO BACKLASH for the Superbowl incident. I think what hurt Janet was that it was her breast that appeared on television not any part of Justin's body. Also given the overtly sexual image she had been portraying for the previous ten years many people assumed that it was totally her intention for the outfit to rip like that and that it was some kind of publicity stunt. Some people said it was because she's a woman or because she's African-American but I really doubt that.
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Post by Rurry on Mar 1, 2011 17:39:12 GMT -5
I just don't really understand why such an incident would ruin the career of someone. Are people really that terrified of a nipple? ???
I can understand getting backlash for it at the time but it seems ridiculous that it'd ruin her entire career. Chris Brown beat up one of the biggest pop stars on the scene right now and not even 2 years later he has a top 10 hit. Either the public has gotten much more forgiving in 7 years, they're stupid, or it wasn't the *only* factor to Janet's career ending. Not sure which one it is.
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