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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Nov 14, 2010 13:08:36 GMT -5
Well, yeah kinda. The better songs were essentially M.I.A/Santigold songs and NMT (though it grew on me) was ridiculously dated. The majority of the rest of the tracks barely make it as filler. My favourites were probably the ones co-written by Sia, although these could have quite as easily been released by Sia herself, so that's problematic. The album was oddly timed, dated, projected a pretty cringey image and was quite alienating. It's also painfully inconsistent; like an average GH. The premise of the record was good, but after listening to the material itself... it just wasn't happening.
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Post by lolhey on Nov 15, 2010 12:01:25 GMT -5
Seemed like a very desperate album to me. I'm all for musicians and singers going different paths and experimenting, but it all seemed to be one big put on for an entire album. I remember during the main era of pop princess divas (like Britney vs. Mandy vs. Jessica vs. Christina, etc) she was the one who had the "voice" and that was the main reason most people credited her imo. Had she of really made an album that made people realize why her voice is really her selling point (like Back to Basics) her album wouldn't of been a flop and wouldn't be so critically dismissed as well. I'm not exactly a huge Christina fan, but I do like a few of her songs and like her other albums.. wanted to give it a chance, but yeah no. Only song worth much of anything in my books on it is "You Lost Me" but that's common knowledge anyways and I like her vocals on "Not Myself Tonight" (I get 90s throwback vibes to the vocal production of it) but that's more of a guilty pleasure kinda.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Nov 15, 2010 12:04:12 GMT -5
Well, yeah kinda. The better songs were essentially M.I.A/Santigold songs and NMT (though it grew on me) was ridiculously dated. The majority of the rest of the tracks barely make it as filler. My favourites were probably the ones co-written by Sia, although these could have quite as easily been released by Sia herself, so that's problematic. The album was oddly timed, dated, projected a pretty cringey image and was quite alienating. It's also painfully inconsistent; like an average GH. The premise of the record was good, but after listening to the material itself... it just wasn't happening. Very true. It's as if Aguilera and her team decided that simply working with a handful of interesting artists slightly out of the mainstream would make her stand out without Christina bringing anything to the table but her voice to make it a true collaboration. So we got half of the tracks essentially from these collaborators paired with half a disk of ho-hum tracks from Tricky and Polow. This was a recipe for a mess in retrospect.
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Post by esoteric76 on Nov 15, 2010 12:11:57 GMT -5
You Lost Me and Lift Me Up are solid tracks, and are worthy additions to Christina's catalog. The rest of the album should have been a mixtape. She is so much better than that.
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Post by Joe1240 on Nov 15, 2010 12:11:58 GMT -5
Yes it is.One of the worst albums I ever listened to in my entire life.The album is dreadful.Give Christina some better material and come out with some better material then this.
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Post by Eqbk on Nov 15, 2010 12:57:59 GMT -5
Birds Of Prey s**ts all over any mainstream song released this year.. So nah Bionic is a good album. An there lies part of the problem. I have all but one bonus track on my ipod but only 4 out of the 18 tracks on the standard. When she said she was working w/ all of these non-mainstream writers and producers, she peaked my interest. Unfortunately, she relegated most of those songs to bonus tracks. The standard is riddled w/ Tricky Stewart and Polow tracks that were dated and came off as desperate. I think if the the Tricky and Polow tracks (and the interludes) were removed and replaced w/ the Bonus tracks, it would have been a much more solid album.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Nov 15, 2010 14:16:15 GMT -5
My beef with Christina, and you'll find me saying this in other posts dating back to Back 2 Basics, is she's one of the most talented this vocalist in modern times who has completely wasted her talent. The ratio of good material to incredibly bad material is so off balance for her, it's a shame really. I probably won't be listening to Bionic after this year; however, I will probably be listening to You Lost Me for years to come. Fortunately, when she shines, she blinds you.
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Post by Libra on Nov 15, 2010 14:33:00 GMT -5
Bionic seems to be for Christina what Blackout was for Britney, in the sense of:
Album comes out, and then...cue the bad press filled with stories of the fresh personal hardships.
In the same vein, I have to think that her personal drama rubbed off on this album.
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Post by hidizzyguy on Nov 15, 2010 14:40:56 GMT -5
Except for Blackout was a VERY solid album.
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Post by David on Nov 15, 2010 15:06:31 GMT -5
^Blackout also had better reviews. Like I said, its all subjective anyways. Plus, the negative press towards Britney was different than what Christina got. Britney's was serious, and she was going through a lot. Whereas 90% of the negative press Christina got was petty bullshit. "OMG! She copied GaGa" "OMG! Her lead single was a flop" lol
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Post by josuem1415 on Nov 15, 2010 19:22:04 GMT -5
Except for Blackout was a VERY solid album. becoming one of the greatest pop album of the decade.
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Post by Sir Benji on Nov 15, 2010 19:34:25 GMT -5
lol. please people just hate X-Tina if anyone other big pop star (Rihanna, maybe Brit) would have recorded "Bionic" it would have been "EPIC' "HOT" "INNOVATIVE" etc. and no it wasn't a bad album at all and it would have done better if it were released in 2009 i still can't at people saying she was trying to keep up with GaGa she doesn't need to
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Post by Libra on Nov 16, 2010 2:04:19 GMT -5
^Blackout also had better reviews. Like I said, its all subjective anyways. Plus, the negative press towards Britney was different than what Christina got. Britney's was serious, and she was going through a lot. Whereas 90% of the negative press Christina got was petty bulls**t. "OMG! She copied GaGa" "OMG! Her lead single was a flop" lol How much of what Britney was going through did we know beforehand? And once the album was out, it got much worse for some months. Christina now has a divorce on her hands...what, her marriage was all happy and sunshine in the months leading up to it, during which she was making her album? It stands to reason that Christina was likely in a not-so-bright place while making Bionic, just as Britney was in a pretty dark place while making Blackout. Neither performed all that well, and serious bad personal press followed both. That's the point I'm trying to make. I'm not claiming that the two scenarios are of equal weight or even are close - but I do see a similar path of events. Christina seems to have put herself out there as in-your-face, trying to push herself to the front as this aggressive, won't-back-down girl. But she's stuck with that for so long that she's gone stale. She won't have another successful album until she's able to remind us that that's not all there is to her.
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Post by Caviar on Nov 19, 2010 19:08:14 GMT -5
^^ This!
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Nov 19, 2010 22:26:22 GMT -5
The album is terrible time to move on and stop trying to justify an album that was dead on arrival.
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Post by kpasa on Nov 20, 2010 0:48:31 GMT -5
How much of what Britney was going through did we know beforehand? um. The divorce, she shaved her head, lost custody of her kids, etc. etc. We knew quite a bit actually, check your facts before you type. We knew nothing of Christina's "struggles" and to compare the two is absolutely ridiculous. Christina's "bad press" was that the material was awful, and that generally, she just wasn't likable as a person. :gumthrow.gif: As for promo, Britney did one performance at the VMA's and it was a disaster. There was nothing wrong with Xtina's promo. So logically, the problem was no one liked what they were hearing. they happened at different periods relative to the album release, however, and the material put out was vastly different. Britney's "dark place" produced fantastic cuts whereas Christina's produced a hot mess. actually, she won't have another successful album until the material is good. no.
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Post by abc on Nov 20, 2010 1:05:57 GMT -5
Yes. Although I did love 'Lift Me U' @ the Haiti special. That was amazing. YLM is also a decent ballad. Besides that, everything was truly horrific.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2010 21:36:01 GMT -5
I've heard every track, but I have not once been able to listen to the album straight through. And I was even able to listen through MGMT's Congratulations all the way through. So yeah, the album as a whole is floptastic.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on Nov 20, 2010 23:50:10 GMT -5
It wasn't a good cd-I still wish we had the original Bionic that was finished the year before they decided to delay again. Fairly disappointing for someone who has released solid cds otherwise.
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Post by MikeCheck12 on Nov 21, 2010 0:19:56 GMT -5
It was pretty bad.
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Post by Junkiex on Nov 24, 2010 23:16:50 GMT -5
Yes.
Self-indulgent, egocentric shit. Only tracks worth listening: I Am, Lift Me Up and Elastic Love.
Vanity, My Girls, WooHoo and Desnudate are probably among the worst songs my ears have ever heard. They're a mess, musically and lyrically.
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Post by YoYoCanUSeeMe?! on Nov 28, 2010 12:29:52 GMT -5
Nope!! I love it..it's better than Stripped for me!!
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Post by R.K. on Nov 28, 2010 13:45:24 GMT -5
As an album, YES.
The entire album just screamed "desperate". She was trying way too hard to balance her ambition of being "indie and cool" but still wanting to have mainstream success. Sadly the reality hit her hard, she just couldn't handle a project like that.
There are some decent songs from the album, Elastic Love, Monday Morning, My Girls, Birds Of Prey and Lift Me Up. But even those songs weren't strong enough to save the album, it was just too big of a mess.
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Post by Rurry on Nov 28, 2010 18:51:14 GMT -5
How much of what Britney was going through did we know beforehand? um. The divorce, she shaved her head, lost custody of her kids, etc. etc. We knew quite a bit actually, check your facts before you type. We knew nothing of Christina's "struggles" and to compare the two is absolutely ridiculous. Christina's "bad press" was that the material was awful, and that generally, she just wasn't likable as a person. :gumthrow.gif: As for promo, Britney did one performance at the VMA's and it was a disaster. There was nothing wrong with Xtina's promo. So logically, the problem was no one liked what they were hearing. they happened at different periods relative to the album release, however, and the material put out was vastly different. Britney's "dark place" produced fantastic cuts whereas Christina's produced a hot mess. actually, she won't have another successful album until the material is good. That's not really his point though. Blackout and Bionic were both released during times when the artists who created them were probably in pretty low places, and both albums underperformed and many felt they wouldn't be able to rebound. Yes, Blackout is considered to be a good album while Bionic is not but nevertheless both albums still had an aura of bad press surrounding them, regardless of the reasons. I agree with your last sentence though and with the thought that Christina is wasting her talent. The truth is, whether she like it or not, people think of her more as "Christina, the girl who can really sing" rather than "Christina the pop star", but she has always tried to push more for the pop star image when honestly I don't think that's what people want from her. I think if she wants to rebound she needs to be doing some more vocally impressive material and not just samey dance music like much of Bionic was.
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Post by HEADOFTHEPACK on Nov 28, 2010 19:39:32 GMT -5
The comparison between Bionic and Blackout is pretty redundant imo; Britney was a in a much darker place than Christina was/is, was incessantly followed by the paparazzi, released one of her best albums (with a couple of international hits) and got a few awards out of it. Christina just fancied going in an alternative direction; it failed and attracted bad press. Badly executed, poor sales, no real hits. Not much else to it really. They're entirely different situations.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Nov 29, 2010 2:10:47 GMT -5
There isn't a single song worth listening to on this album so YES.
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Post by kt1990 on Dec 13, 2010 12:54:06 GMT -5
Bionic>>Animal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Teenage Dream. U mad?
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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Dec 13, 2010 13:18:09 GMT -5
Bionic>>Animal>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Teenage Dream. U mad? omg, her face on that gif is just... I agree with Adonis. The whole thing is just whack and all over the place. Initially I liked I Am but now I can't even listen to it anymore.
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Post by Donnie5 on Dec 19, 2010 22:06:21 GMT -5
Yes. Despite one or two decent tracks the album is a hot mess.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2010 23:51:18 GMT -5
The ballads are stellar, everything else is pretty forgettable. "Not Myself Tonight" is actually not that bad, i'm not really sure why it gets such a bad rep. I've definitely heard worse.
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