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Post by lockebox on Dec 20, 2010 18:44:39 GMT -5
Lead single from their upcoming album "Collapse into Now".
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Post by Devin on Dec 20, 2010 19:08:54 GMT -5
I thought it was "Discoverer"...er...er
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Post by lockebox on Dec 20, 2010 19:23:26 GMT -5
That was a free throwaway promo single.
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Post by Gravity. on Dec 20, 2010 19:25:28 GMT -5
My response to this title: That's what she said!  I'm lame, I know. |
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Dec 21, 2010 2:06:21 GMT -5
My response to this title: That's what she said! I'm lame, I know. As long as you're quoting Michael Scott, or saying it ironically, then you're good. Otherwise, yeah, it's beyond lame. |
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Post by john123 on Dec 21, 2010 15:47:02 GMT -5
Whatever happen to them? They used to chart great back in the 80's and 90's. Now even some people I know, don't know who R.E.M is.
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Post by pen on Dec 21, 2010 19:30:48 GMT -5
Whatever happen to them? They used to chart great back in the 80's and 90's. Now even some people I know, don't know who R.E.M is. Times change. People change. Music changes. |
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Post by American Idiot on Dec 21, 2010 20:55:48 GMT -5
Whatever happen to them? They used to chart great back in the 80's and 90's. Now even some people I know, don't know who R.E.M is. Times change. People change. Music changes. Unfortunately, that's exactly how it is. Kids who are too young to know the music from the 90s and earlier really have no idea who R.E.M. is. They'll always be one of the bands I respect most for lasting for so long and even though their music declined a bit IMO, I'm still stoked for their new album. |
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Post by john123 on Dec 22, 2010 20:55:20 GMT -5
Times change. People change. Music changes. Unfortunately, that's exactly how it is. Kids who are too young to know the music from the 90s and earlier really have no idea who R.E.M. is. They'll always be one of the bands I respect most for lasting for so long and even though their music declined a bit IMO, I'm still stoked for their new album. True, even though they along with U2, were the biggest band in the world. They need a single like Beautiful Day was for U2, so that new fans come. I |
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Post by American Idiot on Dec 22, 2010 22:10:29 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that's exactly how it is. Kids who are too young to know the music from the 90s and earlier really have no idea who R.E.M. is. They'll always be one of the bands I respect most for lasting for so long and even though their music declined a bit IMO, I'm still stoked for their new album. True, even though they along with U2, were the biggest band in the world. They need a single like Beautiful Day was for U2, so that new fans come. I Definitely agree. That song put them back on the map mainstream-wise for awhile, but their last album didn't score high at all. I mean I barely remember hearing any of the songs on the radio a year or two ago. |
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Post by singingsparrow on Dec 23, 2010 2:20:28 GMT -5
True, even though they along with U2, were the biggest band in the world. They need a single like Beautiful Day was for U2, so that new fans come. I Definitely agree. That song put them back on the map mainstream-wise for awhile, but their last album didn't score high at all. I mean I barely remember hearing any of the songs on the radio a year or two ago. "Accelerate" sold pretty well, actually. It finished just slight of Gold status, and shifted about twice as many copies as "Around The Sun" did (which is their only real bad album to date, in my opinion) As far as airplay is concerned, however, I do agree. While they rebounded sales-wise , in terms of airplay they actually fared worse overall than during the "Around The Sun" era worldwide, though the charting of "Supernatural Superstitious" on Alternative radio could easily lead many to believe it was more successful than some of their "Around The Sun" singles easily overall. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by john123 on Dec 23, 2010 6:54:35 GMT -5
Definitely agree. That song put them back on the map mainstream-wise for awhile, but their last album didn't score high at all. I mean I barely remember hearing any of the songs on the radio a year or two ago. It did go to number one on the Billboard album chart but that about it. |
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 2, 2011 18:21:56 GMT -5
There's two main reasons, I believe, why R.E.M. imploded and never quite recovered while U2 did not.
Firstly, unlike U2, who have aggressively toured each release cycle, R.E.M. have actually rarely toured, and didn't even tour at all between the "Green" and "Monster" eras when they were most successful commercially. In the MTV era it didn't matter as much if you weren't touring as long as your face was on television, but it later would come back to haunt them.
Secondly, unlike U2, who have always been welcomed as an alternative act but was regarded equally as much as a mainstream act since the latter part of the 1980's, R.E.M. are regarded as a definitive alternative band that never quite fit in with the mainstream, as vastly successful as they were. They single-handedly rode a wave of prominence that Alternative/Modern Rock enjoyed from the college rock phenomenon of the late 1980's and early 1990's to the post-Cobain boost around the mid part of the 1990's, when those genres of music were highly influential with top 40 radio as well.
Then, as "New Adventures In Hi-Fi" bowed, they suffered from the changing winds of mainstream radio. Alternative radio's influence amidst the Top 40 landscape declined dramatically, where many listeners got bored with the oversaturation of "post-grunge" and desired an alternative to it, which they found through the precursors of Adult Top 40 radio with acts that maintained an edge but would sound just as friendly to Adult Contemporary radio. R.E.M., being as eccentric as they were, failed to fit in to either the persisting post-grunge trend nor the Adult Top 40 rise, and thus collapsed in public stature despite remaining a highly influential band with Radiohead even admitting "Up" motivated their creative direction for their classic "Kid A". U2, on the other hand, suffered a temporary dip in popularity with the ill-timed and underprepared "Pop" era, but rebounded to world domination the following era because they wisely returned to a sound that toed the line between their Alternative and mainstream inclinations.
It's unfortunate, but that's the way it goes when you allow genres to define the scope of your musical identity. Which is ironic given how R.E.M. repeatedly experimented with different textures and stylings the entire first two decades of their career, making them very much a band that earnestly refuses to be pigeonholed in any singular genre.
Namaste,
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Post by singingsparrow on Jan 2, 2011 18:28:23 GMT -5
Unfortunately, that's exactly how it is. Kids who are too young to know the music from the 90s and earlier really have no idea who R.E.M. is. They'll always be one of the bands I respect most for lasting for so long and even though their music declined a bit IMO, I'm still stoked for their new album. True, even though they along with U2, were the biggest band in the world. They need a single like Beautiful Day was for U2, so that new fans come. I The good news for R.E.M. is that they have one of the most distinctive, unique vocalists in rock and roll history working in their favor. The bad news is that they are regarded as a quintessential "alternative band" (that doesn't even get the airplay they used to on their core format) and when Alternative radio has virtually no influence on Mainstream Top 40 music and popular culture presently, there's little opportunity for R.E.M. to reach a massive radio audience. What they need to do first and foremost is launch a massive world tour, I believe. Remind music lovers why they used to dominate the world and that they are back to the top of their form. Secondly, they shouldn't obsess heavily with trying to revive their stature on the Adult Top 40. They need a robust PR effort to revive their presence on Alternative radio much like Pearl Jam have done the last two album eras. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus |
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Post by john123 on Jan 4, 2011 17:15:23 GMT -5
True, even though they along with U2, were the biggest band in the world. They need a single like Beautiful Day was for U2, so that new fans come. I The good news for R.E.M. is that they have one of the most distinctive, unique vocalists in rock and roll history working in their favor. The bad news is that they are regarded as a quintessential "alternative band" (that doesn't even get the airplay they used to on their core format) and when Alternative radio has virtually no influence on Mainstream Top 40 music and popular culture presently, there's little opportunity for R.E.M. to reach a massive radio audience. What they need to do first and foremost is launch a massive world tour, I believe. Remind music lovers why they used to dominate the world and that they are back to the top of their form. Secondly, they shouldn't obsess heavily with trying to revive their stature on the Adult Top 40. They need a robust PR effort to revive their presence on Alternative radio much like Pearl Jam have done the last two album eras. Namaste, Lisping Hibiscus Well done post. It seems like 10-now is a time where rock songs are tough to get on the top 40. |
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Post by Nick on Jan 8, 2011 9:48:11 GMT -5
Looking forward to their new album. Been a loyal fan, can't say that about U2.
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Post by DJ General on Jan 9, 2011 0:41:36 GMT -5
I thought the lead single featured Eddie Vedder?
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Post by WotUNeed on Jan 9, 2011 11:09:04 GMT -5
From the clips, this song seems very good, but unlikely to return them to the upper reaches of any given chart. FYI, the title is "Mine Smell Like Honey"
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Post by lockebox on Jan 9, 2011 11:56:42 GMT -5
Allaccess & FMQB have it down as "Mine Smells Like Honey"...
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Post by WotUNeed on Jan 9, 2011 15:42:58 GMT -5
Allaccess & FMQB have it down as "Mine Smells Like Honey"... Then they are both wrong. |
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Post by lockebox on Jan 9, 2011 15:49:14 GMT -5
^ I'll take your word for it then.
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Post by lockebox on Jan 9, 2011 15:52:28 GMT -5
I thought the lead single featured Eddie Vedder? No. Vedder is featured in a song titled "It Happened Today". |
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Post by @DiegoMarcondes_ on Jan 24, 2011 19:48:05 GMT -5
Discoverer is better.
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Post by halo19 on Jan 24, 2011 20:17:48 GMT -5
Pretty meh, which is a bit disappointing for an R.E.M. single, especially disappointing as a lead.
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Post by lockebox on Jan 24, 2011 20:22:22 GMT -5
I drifted off during that.
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Post by The Party Captain on Jan 25, 2011 22:52:08 GMT -5
This is a solid single. I think it's a grower, but this could chart higher than SS did. This could benefit from the same timing that Cake had.
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Post by Nicholas2.0 on Jan 26, 2011 1:48:40 GMT -5
This could benefit from the same timing that Cake had. I think Cake's relative youth, relative "cool" factor, and bigger recent hits give them an advantage that R.E.M. can't possibly compete with. Unless I'm misunderstanding your point here. |
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Post by Walking Contradiction on Jan 26, 2011 10:35:38 GMT -5
^This. Also, I'd say that Cake's single is also catchier, and probably more indicative of what people expect from them. I don't think this is nearly as strong of a lead single as "Supernatural Superserious". In fact, all of the singles from the last album were better.
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Post by Nick on Jan 26, 2011 11:31:22 GMT -5
What are we talking about here? Please don't tell me you guys are saying that Cake has any kind of advantage over R.E.M.
R.E.M. I'm sure will have a Top 5 debut based on their name alone, forget about the single(s). R.E.M. were never a singles oriented band. Cake released in January, the quietest month of the year.
3/8 releases
R.E.M. - Collapse Into Now
Avril Lavigne - Goodbye Lullaby
Beady Eye - Different Gear, Still Speeding
WC – Revenge Of The Barracuda
Raekwon - Shaolin vs. Wu-Tang
Three 6 Mafia - Laws of Power
Lupe Fiasco - LASERS
Sara Evans - Stronger
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Post by halo19 on Jan 26, 2011 15:05:34 GMT -5
Accelerate benefited from being billed as R.E.M.'s "comeback" album (and actually outsold its predecessor stateside!), and I think there would need to be a similar hype to sustain them for this album.
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