Papa Roach - "No Matter What"

[Devin]

Third single from the live album Time For Annihilation. A video is already filmed for it, and will debut soon. Single release is set for sometime in June.



Cross-over potential?

[Shadows in the Dark]

Had a feeling this would get released. It's the last of the 3 singles they've wanted to release from this album.

[david112]

Really liked the first too. Not a fan of this one. Predicting #10 on Active and #20 on Alt.

[Devin]

Peak Predictions:

#9 Active
#31 Alternative

[singingsparrow]

It's amusing that what is essentially a partially live/partially studio release has produced better overall single results of any regular studio era since "Getting Away With Murder".......and could very well yield their most successful third single result to date.

Generally live releases, even when tagged with a few brand-new studio cuts, are sort of regarded as nothing more than icing on the cake for die-hard fans. Yet, even if not necessarily reflected in the sales figures (Papa Roach have never been a hot-selling act outside of "Infest" anyway)...........here we are, with a non-studio album outperforming their previous two albums on the airplay front.

Namaste,
Lisping Hibiscus

[pen]

And that's sad because The Paramour Sessions deserved so much better.

[Devin]

Looks epic and costly for a video of a 3rd single from a live album.

[Shadows in the Dark]

That was pretty awesome.

[Devin]

Official music video:

[HereIsGone]

I like it but...is it bad that this really reminds me of this?

[lockebox]

Can't hear it. Wasn't the Papa Roach album released before "No Apologies?"

[Devin]

Jun 5, 2011 13:33:56 GMT -5 lockebox said:

Can't hear it. Wasn't the Papa Roach album released before "No Apologies?"

Yeah.

Time For Annihilation - August 31, 2010
All Apologies - October 12, 2010

[HereIsGone]

No Apologies was supposed to be released earlier though it got pushed back to that October date.I think it would have just been the same day as Linkin Park though. Either way, I meant that it reminded me in a general way because I knew that Trapt song first, not insinuating that anything was lifted or concrete.

[musicissalvation]

I like this song a lot. It definitely sounds like it could get some pop adds too? The video is pretty epic

[Devin]

It's sad that something like this would struggle to go Top 40 on pop while back in 2005 "Scars" was one of the biggest pop hits of the year.

[david112]

Yup Stupid Pop. :(

Would love for this to do well especially on pop.

[thisbeautifulmess]

Jun 6, 2011 0:46:58 GMT -5 david112 said:

Yup Stupid Pop. :(

Would love for this to do well especially on pop.

This is going off on a tangent, but how in the world did a Hollywood Undead song just hit top 50 on Mediabase Pop?

[Devin]

It's a Kevin Rudolf production, has a pop hook to it, and acoustic guitar with hip-hop-like drumbeats. Pop hit. ;)

[david112]

It's also probably the best song on the chart...not that that's hard.

[Devin]

Jun 6, 2011 17:08:20 GMT -5 david112 said:

It's also probably the best song on the chart...not that that's hard.

I laughed so hard inside just then.. I hate this song it's annoying and too cute-sounding for HU. I'd rank it at around #40 or so.

[david112]

Jun 6, 2011 17:12:19 GMT -5 Devin said:

Jun 6, 2011 17:08:20 GMT -5 david112 said:

It's also probably the best song on the chart...not that that's hard.

I laughed so hard inside just then.. I hate this song it's annoying and too cute-sounding for HU. I'd rank it at around #40 or so.

I don't mind it, while it dosn't sound much like anything HU's done before (maybe because it dosn't contain profanity) it's quite an enjoyable song. But then again HU's always been a guilty pleasure of mine.

[singingsparrow]

Given the full cinematic scope of the music video, I can't imagine Eleven Seven NOT intending to give this an aggressive push to mainstream airwaves.

I think they know, even in a Mainstream 40 climate saturated by electropop right now that isn't exactly surfeit of rock-leaning material, that there's a surefire hit here. Especially when the act closest to filling the seemingly empty rock music shoes on Mainstream Top 40 presently is The Script.........who I don't even consider a rock act anyway but rather a pop group with some rock sensibilities here and there (like OneRepublic, The Fray, etc.) There's a clear void..............and this is the type of song that I could see temporarily filling it.

The question, I think, is how interested Papa Roach are in another hit of a magnitude somewhere between "Scars" and "Last Resort". And, given how proud Shaddix is of the video according to a couple interviews I've read, I think they're just as hungry for another big hit.

Namaste,
Lisping Hibiscus

[Devin]

Jun 7, 2011 14:26:31 GMT -5 @singingsparrow said:

Given the full cinematic scope of the music video, I can't imagine Eleven Seven NOT intending to give this an aggressive push to mainstream airwaves.

I think they know, even in a Mainstream 40 climate saturated by electropop right now that isn't exactly surfeit of rock-leaning material, that there's a surefire hit here. Especially when the act closest to filling the seemingly empty rock music shoes on Mainstream Top 40 presently is The Script.........who I don't even consider a rock act anyway but rather a pop group with some rock sensibilities here and there (like OneRepublic, The Fray, etc.) There's a clear void..............and this is the type of song that I could see temporarily filling it.

The question, I think, is how interested Papa Roach are in another hit of a magnitude somewhere between "Scars" and "Last Resort". And, given how proud Shaddix is of the video according to a couple interviews I've read, I think they're just as hungry for another big hit.

Namaste,
Lisping Hibiscus

Really? I would consider Neon Trees (#1 on Alt and Top 50 on active last year), Maroon 5, Steven Tyler (obviously), Cee-Lo, Train, and Hollywood Undead all 'more rock' than The Script, from looking at the Top 50 of pop this week.

[pen]

Jun 7, 2011 15:45:07 GMT -5 Devin said:

Jun 7, 2011 14:26:31 GMT -5 @singingsparrow said:

Given the full cinematic scope of the music video, I can't imagine Eleven Seven NOT intending to give this an aggressive push to mainstream airwaves.

I think they know, even in a Mainstream 40 climate saturated by electropop right now that isn't exactly surfeit of rock-leaning material, that there's a surefire hit here. Especially when the act closest to filling the seemingly empty rock music shoes on Mainstream Top 40 presently is The Script.........who I don't even consider a rock act anyway but rather a pop group with some rock sensibilities here and there (like OneRepublic, The Fray, etc.) There's a clear void..............and this is the type of song that I could see temporarily filling it.

The question, I think, is how interested Papa Roach are in another hit of a magnitude somewhere between "Scars" and "Last Resort". And, given how proud Shaddix is of the video according to a couple interviews I've read, I think they're just as hungry for another big hit.

Namaste,
Lisping Hibiscus

Really? I would consider Neon Trees (#1 on Alt and Top 50 on active last year), Maroon 5, Steven Tyler (obviously), Cee-Lo, Train, and Hollywood Undead all 'more rock' than The Script, from looking at the Top 50 of pop this week.

Doesn't Hollywood Undead have to be music first?

[david112]

Jun 7, 2011 23:09:35 GMT -5 pen said:

Jun 7, 2011 15:45:07 GMT -5 Devin said:

Really? I would consider Neon Trees (#1 on Alt and Top 50 on active last year), Maroon 5, Steven Tyler (obviously), Cee-Lo, Train, and Hollywood Undead all 'more rock' than The Script, from looking at the Top 50 of pop this week.

Doesn't Hollywood Undead have to be music first?

Low blow.

[lockebox]

Goes for adds June 28th.

[Devin]

About time. Another Active Top 10 and Alternative Top 20?

[Nicholas2.0]

Wow, they certainly spent way too much money on the video for this. It was so cheesy (especially for the type of song it accompanied) that I couldn't watch any more of it after about 1:30. And the song was so generic and faceless it could've been written by any average hard rock band. I shudder to think this could potentially cross over and represent "rock music" on Pop radio.

For as much as I enjoyed their middle two albums (don't over-think it), it's been one long free-fall ever since. Kind of makes me think they either took for granted how good GAWM and TPS were, or those albums were never as good as I thought they were at the time. Frankly, I'm scared to listen to them again now.

[pen]

Trust me, they're still good. Papa Roach has just lost their spark. Hopefully their next album will bring it back.

[Shadows in the Dark]

Top 50 on Active:

59 50 PAPA ROACH No Matter What 115 69 46 0.214