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Post by Me. I Am l!nk!nfan815... on Jul 6, 2011 13:43:57 GMT -5
She isn't overrated at all, IMO.
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Post by Hook on Jul 6, 2011 14:26:59 GMT -5
No. Even if her style of music/singing isn't for you, her talent is pretty undeniable IMO. If any of you have seen her live, you know what I'm talking about. Her voice is brilliant.
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Post by beach1 on Jul 6, 2011 14:31:46 GMT -5
So I downloaded her album, and I think it's good, but there are some songs I can barely finish listening too. I think it's awesome that people are embracing someone who isn't a sex symbol and who can actually sing, but I don't think she's as great as people are making her out to be, at least not her music. Maybe if I listen to her more, my opinion will change, but that's how I feel at the moment. I listened to 21 a little while ago, and I feel exactly the same way about her as you. She's got some great songs, but I don't feel like any of them are like super great. But maybe it's because I haven't listened to most of her music that much and it needs to grow on me.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2011 18:49:13 GMT -5
She has a nice voice with a great, smoky tone, I'll give her that. That said, her interpretive and songwriting skills are most average, though you sure can't tell from the comments about her. I think the decision to market her as this slightly dowdy lady with a big voice is genius, as that's the kind of image people want to root for, and thus effectively dismissing her obvious shortcomings. So in that sense (actuality failing to match the hype), I dare say that yes, she is overrated. Agree completely. Adele's album has some of favorite songs this year and I'd say "Rolling In The Deep" is my favorite pop hit of the year, but I do understand both points of view. I think she's more impressive if you compare her to what else is being shoved down pop listeners throats. To a lot of people who actually dig for music and don't just pick and choose between what they hear on the radio, her talent is obvious but she's not nearly as shocking and exciting of an artist.
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Post by when the pawn... on Jul 6, 2011 18:54:20 GMT -5
I'll agree with...
Adele isn't overrated 21 is overrated
She deserves all the success. But 21 isn't perfect.
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Post by NeRD on Jul 6, 2011 19:12:57 GMT -5
Her talent? No
21? To some extent
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Post by horchata on Jul 6, 2011 21:35:56 GMT -5
Nope.
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Post by Rurry on Jul 6, 2011 22:12:22 GMT -5
Because we all know no other female artist on Pulse is treated like a legend, right? Obviously there are others, but Adele hasn't done nearly as much as Kelly/ Beyonce/ etc. to be so hyped like this on pulse. In response to this: I always find post like this odd coming from Lady Gaga fans. I understand not all Gaga fans act like she's a legend and the BEST THING SINCE EVER, but neither do all the Adele fans. In that case, would you consider Gaga overrated? Yes I do think Lady Gaga is overrated, but she's still my favorite artist and I love everything she does and I'm also a big fan of other artists as well. Others feel the same about Adele...why's it okay for you to feel that way about GaGa, but not Adele's fans for Adele? And Kelly and Beyonce are not the only ones that get that treatment around here. Practically every female who sings a song on the radio is treated like a legend by at least someone here.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jul 6, 2011 23:24:27 GMT -5
Adele's talent levels are grossly overrated for her being a one dimensional artist. Lady gaga and Beyonce have more to them than an instantly recognizable voice.
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Post by dbhmr on Jul 6, 2011 23:26:40 GMT -5
Adele's talent levels are grossly overrated for her being a one dimensional artist. Lady gaga and Beyonce have more to them than an instantly recognizable voice. How is she one dimensional? And I'd say her voice is pretty distinct. And what do Lady Gaga and Beyonce have to do with anything?
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Post by Jay on Jul 6, 2011 23:47:40 GMT -5
I made a similar poll a couple months ago and I got attacked like I was some kind of hater. Consider yourself lucky that people haven't eaten you alive just because they disagree. ;)
However, to answer the poll question, I say no. I used to think she was nothing special, but now I believe she's amazing and totally deserves any praise/success she gets.
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Post by Black Jesus on Jul 7, 2011 5:42:37 GMT -5
Yeah. She can definitely sing but so many celebrities make her sound like she's Whitney or something when they talk about her. I'm pretty sure her range isn't anything spectacular. I mean, she's still really good.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Jul 7, 2011 8:42:27 GMT -5
Adele's talent levels are grossly overrated for her being a one dimensional artist. Lady gaga and Beyonce have more to them than an instantly recognizable voice. Perhaps you're not very familiar with Adele? ??? She penned every song but two on her first two albums (Dylan's "Make You Feel My Love" and The Cure's "Love Song" being the only two). That alone severely undercuts the assertion that she's one-dimensional. She also plays multiple instruments - piano, guitar and bass to name a few. All three she played while recording 19. She understandably left the instruments to the professionals her success enabled her to collaborate with on 21. That doesn't mean she's any less involved in her own success as the two talented ladies to who you compared her.
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Jul 7, 2011 9:26:01 GMT -5
Adele's talent levels are grossly overrated for her being a one dimensional artist. Lady gaga and Beyonce have more to them than an instantly recognizable voice. Perhaps you're not very familiar with Adele? ??? She penned every song but two on her first two albums (Dylan's "Make You Feel My Love" and The Cure's "Love Song" being the only two). That alone severely undercuts the assertion that she's one-dimensional. She also plays multiple instruments - piano, guitar and bass to name a few. All three she played while recording 19. She understandably left the instruments to the professionals her success enabled her to collaborate with on 21. That doesn't mean she's any less involved in her own success as the two talented ladies to who you compared her. That's fair enough. I didn't realize she played many of the instruments on her first album. I changed my vote to no.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2011 9:31:44 GMT -5
Adele's talent levels are grossly overrated for her being a one dimensional artist. Lady gaga and Beyonce have more to them than an instantly recognizable voice. How is she one dimensional? And I'd say her voice is pretty distinct. And what do Lady Gaga and Beyonce have to do with anything? How is she not one dimensional? She has one set style of music/sound. And that's all she offers.
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Post by dbhmr on Jul 7, 2011 9:56:15 GMT -5
How is she one dimensional? And I'd say her voice is pretty distinct. And what do Lady Gaga and Beyonce have to do with anything? How is she not one dimensional? She has one set style of music/sound. And that's all she offers. She writes, she sings, she plays instruments. So, that's three. I also think 19 and 21 have different sounds. And, even so, since when is having a set style of music a bad thing? She has a very distinct voice that suits her material, and I suppose if you tried you could twist that into a negative, but I don't see the point.
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Post by blue in moonlight on Jul 7, 2011 10:00:31 GMT -5
How is she one dimensional? And I'd say her voice is pretty distinct. And what do Lady Gaga and Beyonce have to do with anything? How is she not one dimensional? She has one set style of music/sound. And that's all she offers. What is this one alleged set style/sound? ??? She doesn't even have one set style on 21 much less both of her albums combined.
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Post by Minor Scratch on Jul 7, 2011 12:36:22 GMT -5
She is real talent getting the credit she deserves. No she is not overrated. She can sing and perform very well and that is what an entertainer in this industry is supposed to do.
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Post by Tea-why on Feb 13, 2012 16:57:18 GMT -5
Yes.
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Post by Verisimilitude on Feb 13, 2012 16:59:12 GMT -5
Yes, but only because I don't like how some people downgrade other artists and make her sound like she's the only decent thing we have in music at the moment.
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Post by kmbgs on Feb 13, 2012 17:09:55 GMT -5
21 bores be a little bit i parts, or ok for about half of the CD, but I do think she is talented. I don't think she's known for writing catchy radio ready hits (which is what would not bore me), but instead for writing emotional and powerful music, which she uses her huge voice to sing. As such, I don't think she's overrated, as her strengths are valued just about right.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 17:14:03 GMT -5
Yes. But only in the way that, if this was forty years ago and artists were regularly putting out diamond-selling albums with multiple future classics and critical acclaim while not being focused on image but being a great performer then she wouldn't be quite such a big deal. No she isn't the only decent thing we have in music at the moment, but as far as hitting every target, she's pretty damn close to being single-handedly keeping the bailiffs at the door. Every artist regularly discussed on Pulse is vastly overrated. This is still true.
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Post by out of reach on Feb 13, 2012 18:42:23 GMT -5
Problem for me is how to define overrated. She is very talented and even though I am not really a fan of her material I do recognize quality in it. It has also struck a commercial/critical chord.
However, vocally there are many artists that I believe are as good as her, she's not the only one who can sing. I also don't really buy that her material is that much better than may other artists out there. It comes down to marketing and her marketing team did a spectacular job establishing her. It also helps that the TPTB like her, radio and especially the Grammy foundation.
So I answered yes because I feel that currently she is being over promoted and over saturated compared to other artists out there. Of course it's working so it's not going to stop.
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Post by bb on Feb 13, 2012 18:56:52 GMT -5
Adele as an artist and a singer? Yes. 21 as an album and an era? Yes. A year ago I might have had a different opinion on the matter, but the meta comment that all music except for Adele is crap is exactly what overrates her--- I think she's fantastic, her voice is powerful and soulful and her music is beautiful and expertly crafted. But there comes a point when her situation is treated like she can do no wrong--- that she is, in fact, unstoppable.
And I blame that in part on the vast dichotomy between her and other popular acts, like Rihanna and Katy Perry. The differences in talent and poise/maturity is striking (and at times a bit humorous) and I think, especially when sharing the same stage like at the Grammy's, that shows. "Rolling in the Deep" on the Grammy's was probably the best vocal performance and despite having no gimmicks, she managed to be theatrical and dramatic and yet retain her mature air.
But she's not the only good vocalist and writer out there and that's where the line has to be drawn. I could name you a good twenty relatively successful artists with as good (if not better) voices than Adele who have written their own music and display the same artistry and maturity. It's just that she has been so massively successful that it seems to amplify her pros and dilute her cons--- it's a vicious cycle. People like her because she's so mature and yet still successful, and she's successful because people think she's so mature and so well liked.
The over-hyping of Adele will come at a cost to her if her next album is underwhelming (or, conversely, dangerously similar to 19 and 21 in quality/content) and that's when comments on her career will hail her as having "lost her touch" or "not having progressed". It's one of those moments where you almost wish no one had ever heard of her. I do love her and her music and she's one of my favorite artists, but she's not the 4th greatest woman in music like VH1 is hailing her and she's not nearly a legend--- that takes time and sweat and blood, and for a woman who has only had two years of intense success, that's a tall demand and one that could haunt her later on.
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Post by allow that on Feb 13, 2012 19:46:19 GMT -5
Not at all. I'm not a big fan of her music in the sense that I don't have her on my iPod or own her albums, but it's really difficult to deny her talent. In an age of factory made, assembly line, overnight songs on radio with thin vocals, Adele stands out as extremely deserving. She's got incredible range and whether or not you like them, it's difficult to deny that a lot of effort and thought go into the construction of her songs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2012 21:27:15 GMT -5
Hell no. She deserves all the praise she gets.
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Post by areyoureadytojump on Feb 13, 2012 22:59:01 GMT -5
Hell, to the no!
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Post by musictomyeyes on Feb 13, 2012 23:11:33 GMT -5
Adele is "rated" perfectly.
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Post by slamina on Feb 13, 2012 23:50:42 GMT -5
No. Adele as an artist and a singer? Yes. 21 as an album and an era? Yes. A year ago I might have had a different opinion on the matter, but the meta comment that all music except for Adele is crap is exactly what overrates her--- I think she's fantastic, her voice is powerful and soulful and her music is beautiful and expertly crafted. But there comes a point when her situation is treated like she can do no wrong--- that she is, in fact, unstoppable. And I blame that in part on the vast dichotomy between her and other popular acts, like Rihanna and Katy Perry. The differences in talent and poise/maturity is striking (and at times a bit humorous) and I think, especially when sharing the same stage like at the Grammy's, that shows. "Rolling in the Deep" on the Grammy's was probably the best vocal performance and despite having no gimmicks, she managed to be theatrical and dramatic and yet retain her mature air. But she's not the only good vocalist and writer out there and that's where the line has to be drawn. I could name you a good twenty relatively successful artists with as good (if not better) voices than Adele who have written their own music and display the same artistry and maturity. It's just that she has been so massively successful that it seems to amplify her pros and dilute her cons--- it's a vicious cycle. People like her because she's so mature and yet still successful, and she's successful because people think she's so mature and so well liked. The over-hyping of Adele will come at a cost to her if her next album is underwhelming (or, conversely, dangerously similar to 19 and 21 in quality/content) and that's when comments on her career will hail her as having "lost her touch" or "not having progressed". It's one of those moments where you almost wish no one had ever heard of her. I do love her and her music and she's one of my favorite artists, but she's not the 4th greatest woman in music like VH1 is hailing her and she's not nearly a legend--- that takes time and sweat and blood, and for a woman who has only had two years of intense success, that's a tall demand and one that could haunt her later on. Not sure what you mean there. Can you point me in the direction of the numerous people saying all current music is crap except for Adele's? ??? lol
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Post by allow that on Feb 14, 2012 0:21:43 GMT -5
I think she's more impressive if you compare her to what else is being shoved down pop listeners throats. To a lot of people who actually dig for music and don't just pick and choose between what they hear on the radio, her talent is obvious but she's not nearly as shocking and exciting of an artist. Actually this sums it up perfectly. I have artists that I prefer over her that I think are more talented, maybe not vocally, but in the way they craft their songs, construct their lyrics, play up their instruments etc. Phoenix put out my favorite favorite FAVORITE album of the past few years. Luckily they got a Grammy for it and two big hits at Alternative, but nowhere in the world are they all over the radio. So I'd say Adele is overrated when compared to them. I could go a lot further underground than Phoenix and find just as talented and captivating artists that will NEVER be on the radio or all over TV. However, this is a Pop chart forum. Most of the artists on this board and at Pop radio are just shadows of what a singer should be, and get praised the shit out of them for what often makes me stop and go huh?! Adele is so talented you'd not expect to hear her on the radio mixed in with a lot of other artists there. She stands out. So for all intents and purposes of this poll, she's underrated if anything.
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