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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 4:16:51 GMT -5
Wasn't I'm Slave 4 U originally a Janet song anyway? She just turned it down.
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Post by GivesYouHell on Jun 2, 2013 8:06:59 GMT -5
I don't like Janet but I agree that Britney definitely takes more after her than she does Madonna. With that said I also agree with getback about her needing to ditch the bubblegum and electro sound, it has clearly faded (see Right Now & Live It Up's chart performance) and people are over it. The dance songs that are actually smashing right now (I love it, S&S, Get Lucky) are of a much different type to what Britney does. I still can't believe they're planning on sending Ooh La La to radio, call me pessimistic but I don't think it'll even make the Top 40 on Pop, it's just SO different to what's "in" right now. She needs a song like Maneater,Promiscuous Girl or Slave as the lead single, something that won't be a huge departure from her music to alienate people but to also fit in with 2013's music trend.
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Post by Marooned@Midnight on Jun 2, 2013 8:15:33 GMT -5
I don't like Janet but I agree that Britney definitely takes more after her than she does Madonna. With that said I also agree with getback about her needing to ditch the bubblegum and electro sound, it has clearly faded (see Right Now & Live It Up's chart performance) and people are over it. The dance songs that are actually smashing right now (I love it, S&S, Get Lucky) are of a much different type to what Britney does. I still can't believe they're planning on sending Ooh La La to radio, call me pessimistic but I don't think it'll even make the Top 40 on Pop, it's just SO different to what's "in" right now. She needs a song like Maneater,Promiscuous Girl or Slave as the lead single, something that won't be a huge departure from her music to alienate people but to also fit in with 2013's music trend. Britney doesn't fit in to trends, she creates them. This is why I'm sure we won't be finding any electro dance pop on the new album and that yes, the first single will be different. But I don't see the need for her to have another Slave, or create her own Maneater, etc. She needs to give us something that others will try to replicate, not the other way around.
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Post by LordEctar on Jun 2, 2013 8:51:01 GMT -5
I think one is only comparing Britney and Janet because both made pop songs and danced.
Britney's singing is no where near to Janet. As in Janet Jackson has an extremely thin voice, Britney has a robust, full sound with a very unique tone. If anything Britney sounds like Toni Braxton when she sings in a range more proper to her voice (ie. "Luv the Hurt Away').
I can see Janet being an influence for Britney, but then again, I could also see Paula Abdul being an influence. No one says she is the next Paula. To me the Madonna comparison fits the most. Madonna is still more of a name and cultural impact than people like Janet and even Mariah, regardless of how many hits or albums, etc. I think Britney is the only one to come out to fit that section for the next generation.
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Post by ListenToItTwice on Jun 2, 2013 9:09:55 GMT -5
For all the Brit fans here, if your copy of ...Baby One More Time is no longer working or if you know someone who is in desperate need of it, go to your local Walmart, it's ONLY $5. That is all. This may be in reaction to 21 having just passed it in all-time sales :O
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 15:21:46 GMT -5
Britney also remade Janet's infamous Rolling Stone cover for her 2011 VMAs promo. That photo had nothing to do with the VMAsI was wrong, a similar mockup does appear in ad, and the 2011 VMA promo she did for her tribute ceremony that year sampled 'Rhythm Nation'. The original photo was not made for the VMAs though. Regardless, I think Britney draws from a wide range of influences, including (but not limited to) Janet and Madonna. On a case by case basis for images, performances, etc. there's going to be a few nods to both Janet and Madonna, as well as a handful of other artists she's drawn inspiration from.
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Post by Arrow on Jun 2, 2013 17:28:34 GMT -5
They may have had similar impacts but that's it really. There is a lot more to it. For what it's worth I never said that Janet wasn't an influence on Britney, I was merely saying that Madonna is definitely an influence as well and critics have said that for years. In The Zone for instance, the album you said is filled with Janet's influence is actually credited to Madonna by multiple music publications for what it's worth. That being said I think Britney is different from both of them and a lot of her music is uniquely her own.
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Post by PrinceAli89 on Jun 2, 2013 18:51:14 GMT -5
Britney, in my opinion, is the perfect combination of Madonna and Janet. Britney's music and vocal styles (while unique in it's own way) has always resembled Madonna's music and vocal style. However, on the stage, there is no denying the Janet similarities. Heavy dance routines, headset mic, etc.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 19:21:25 GMT -5
I disagree even her music and vocal styling's remind me more of a pop version of Janet than Madonna, her songs have similar style and mood and she is not into the whole pretentious crap, even her personality is Janet like more than the other one.
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 2, 2013 20:54:42 GMT -5
I think what everyone is trying to say is that she combines Janet's skills and overall style with Madonna's legendness and edginess.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 21:13:24 GMT -5
I get what they saying but end of the day my point remains while I see a lot of Janet, her music, her style and her career is at this point all Britney. She is not a new artist anymore we don't need to compare her to others to define her, we know what she is and that is a budding legend in her own right. I just don't see the Madonna part of the equation outside of her saying how much she loved her and was influenced by her, she also said same thing about Mariah doesn't mean they have anything to do with each other. Britney's personality and music career isn't modeled after the ice queen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 21:39:42 GMT -5
I get what they saying but end of the day my point remains while I see a lot of Janet, her music, her style and her career is at this point all Britney. She is not a new artist anymore we don't need to compare her to others to define her, we know what she is and that is a budding legend in her own right. I just don't see the Madonna part of the equation outside of her saying how much she loved her and was influenced by her, she also said same thing about Mariah doesn't mean they have anything to do with each other. Britney's personality and music career isn't modeled after the ice queen. And she's not even a Britney stan. Ladies and gentlemen, Coco. <3
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 21:45:51 GMT -5
and with that introduction HI! I don't know most of you bitches and you probably might catch me in here once or twice a year if that but I'm the COCO! catch you laterxxx and I stan for common sense for all.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2013 21:53:32 GMT -5
Why.
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Post by getback on Jun 3, 2013 4:02:12 GMT -5
Regarding the Janet post, I actually started getting into Janet more recently, and being a huge Britney fan that's when I began to notice all the similarities between them. Watching her videos, interviews and performances I see so much of Britney it's unreal, and Madonna's seem like the complete opposite. I honestly feel a little brainwashed and naive for not realizing how much she's been influenced by Janet sooner. However, this isn't meant to discredit any of Britney's other influences. I really just mean to say that Britney is obviously original and unique, but overall as an artist she seems more comparable to Janet than other pop icons. The Janet influence seems to have more of an affect on her persona, performances and even alot of her music. I apologize for the length of this post, but I'd like to share my findings with anyone interested. I hope this at least provided a bit of an interesting discussion during Britney's down time. Wasn't I'm Slave 4 U originally a Janet song anyway? She just turned it down. Yes, Slave 4 U and also Boys were initially intended for Janet. Janet actually did record Boys but her version wasn't released, hopefully we'll get to hear it one day. I'd love for Britney to perform it with her, especially since it's Britney's favorite song to perform and the "get nasty" line is a reference to Janet's "Nasty". Them together on one stage seems long overdue. They may have had similar impacts but that's it really. There is a lot more to it. For what it's worth I never said that Janet wasn't an influence on Britney, I was merely saying that Madonna is definitely an influence as well and critics have said that for years. In The Zone for instance, the album you said is filled with Janet's influence is actually credited to Madonna by multiple music publications for what it's worth. That being said I think Britney is different from both of them and a lot of her music is uniquely her own. There's alot of comments from reviews noting their similarities. I agree that Britney's very unique musically but there's still a heavy Janet influence there that oftens seems miscredited to Madonna, especially for In the Zone and Blackout. Here's a few reviews I found and agree with.. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Slave 4 U - "Although they're not the album's most melodious cuts, the Neptunes' "I'm a Slave 4 U" and "Boys" could be Britney's most important. This ultra-hot hip-hop duo feeds Prince's girl group Vanity 6 ("Nasty Girl"), Rick James' female foursome the Mary Jane Girls ("Boys"), and Jam and Lewis' pivotal Janet production ("Nasty") into their own studio machine." www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/britney-20011030Boys - ''Boys,'' is cut-rate '80s Janet Jackson." www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,253474,00.html Showdown – "She begins a sing/rap verse in a Janet Jackson manner." www.pop-music.com/track-by-track-review-of-us-edition-of-britney-spearss-in-the-zonePerfect Lover - "Spears does a good job of tapping into her "Slave 4 U" sexuality while dashing it with a fresh sound. There were times I thought I was listening to Janet Jackson from the late 90's." voices.yahoo.com/britney-spears-blackout-full-review-629376.htmlOutta this World - "Well, it seems like the planned urban album was to have many and varied flavors and this was another one. It follows the Janet Jackson model of gentle, sweet, understated, rather rambling little songs. I can’t hear this track without thinking of Janet." "Outta of this World harkens back to Janet for me as well. Actually I think a lot of Britney’s work draws some inspiration for her. If she ever did end up going the hiphop/r&b route (which I would love to be honest) she would definitely be channeling Janet big time." www.newbritneyology.com/?p=319#comment-5897Outrageous - "'Outrageous' is R. Kelly’s dirty little take on the ideal Janet Jackson song". About ' Breathe on Me', one review said "The first of two of what I call the “Miss Jackson” tracks. Janet Jackson has long been known for sexually charged songs like “Rope Burn” and “Would You Mind.” This track, has a similar theme". About 'Touch of My Hand' it said "The other “Miss Jackson” track." www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/429Britney herself also said " Touch of My Hand" was inspired by Janet and "That's the Way Love Goes". “Lonely” is a teenage version of Janet’s “What About?” “What It’s Like to Be Me” again sounding a lot like the new (and bitter) Janet Jackson." www.popmatters.com/pm/review/spearsbritney-britney/Kiss You All Over - "Kiss You All Over is the Janet track for me. I swear she has a song just like it." "I always felt this song had a Janet vibe." "I can feel Janet's voice in this song." www.newbritneyology.com/?p=319www.youtube.com/watch?v=19PwKQl-Nn0"How very Janet Jackson!" www.youtube.com/watch?v=lH42XwXlDHQThere are many others, especially for some of her singles but way too many to post them all I think one is only comparing Britney and Janet because both made pop songs and danced. Britney's singing is no where near to Janet. As in Janet Jackson has an extremely thin voice, Britney has a robust, full sound with a very unique tone. If anything Britney sounds like Toni Braxton when she sings in a range more proper to her voice (ie. "Luv the Hurt Away'). I can see Janet being an influence for Britney, but then again, I could also see Paula Abdul being an influence. No one says she is the next Paula. To me the Madonna comparison fits the most. Madonna is still more of a name and cultural impact than people like Janet and even Mariah, regardless of how many hits or albums, etc. I think Britney is the only one to come out to fit that section for the next generation. Britney's natural voice is very low and extremely soulful. It also reminds me of Toni's a lot, which is ironic considering Britney's first demo recorded was a cover of an unreleased Toni Braxton song and Britney was initially signed by Boyz II Men to do R&B. Britney's also mentioned Toni as a big influence as well, even recently. I really hope she brings that voice out again with her new album. But the sexier and lighter tone she's been using throughout most of her career is very similar to Janet's. Even Rolling Stone said she was "channeling understated Janet bravado" with her voice. I think this is particularly notable with her delivery in Slave 4 U (very Janet influenced), Boys, Perfect Lover, The Hook Up (reminds me a bit of Janet's "Island Life"), Inside Out, Anticipating (very similar to "All For You"), and Sippin' On among others. The Janet comparisons have always been there, for her image and persona as well as her dancing. When analyzed they seem more valid than the Madonna ones that are oversaturated and often a bit of a stretch. I suppose those do make more sense for Britney's overall impact, but her as an artist and performer seem much more comparable to Janet. I think she should be compared to who she's more similar to rather than someone for their impact, her status will still remain no matter who she's associated with. A few examples from other sites - {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} Britney Spears: A White Janet Jackson Clone Disguised as Madonnathelavalizard.com/2013/04/britney-spears-a-white-janet-jackson-clone-disguised-as-madonna/ Britney Spears: The White Janet Jacksonatrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219234Britney Spears More Influenced by Janet than Madonnapopdirt.com/britney-spears-more-influenced-by-janet-than-madonna/4838/"A better comparison can be made with Janet Jackson's 1986 album, 'Control', where Jackson powerfully announced her womanhood with an explosion of club-dominated pop. 'Britney' pulls off exactly the same trick, both musically and lyrically." www.nme.com/reviews/5783#3eMuhlZwxZShsJs0.99''Britney'' is Ms. Spears's version of the career move Janet Jackson made when she asserted herself on ''Control.'' The music drives home the parallel by borrowing heavily from Ms. Jackson: tinkling keyboards, chord progressions, whispered asides and giggles." www.nytimes.com/2001/11/11/arts/music-a-big-girl-now-or-just-posing.html"She wants to be like Mike's sister, Janet. Little wonder that Spears has modeled Britney after a crucial early work by Janet Jackson. Jackson's third release, Control (1986), marked her arrival as a serious R&B star, and its primary theme - of a 19-year-old woman asserting herself artistically and personally - is echoed explicitly". "Britney's style of pop is from Janet Jackson not Madonna." www.theartsdesk.com/new-music/britney-spears-1998-now-video-specialA few fan comments also noted these similarities - "Now I know why I've always thought that Britney and Madonna are not the same AT ALL PERIOD! So true I'm now looking into some old janet's videos and comparing her to brit... Omg... They are sisters." "I've always noticed Britney was so much more Janet. In the beginning I didn't like Madonna at all, that's why I felt tasked to discover a bit more of Madonna. Britney and Janet are so much more into music and dancing. They are raw and fierce. That's why I love both of them." "Janet is the real inspiration of Britney not Madonna!" www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8KMdMn21s8Even a few posts from this forum noted similarities between them for The Onyx Hotel in Miami special - - "She looks like Janet there."
- "When I first saw those pics I thought it was Janet."
- "That looks so much like Janet its amazing...."
pulsemusic.proboards.com/thread/22379?page=5I really agree. It was very much inspired by Janet, and her best tour in my opinion! Britney speaking on Janet's influence - Britney even says here that she wanted to be her! {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
Live covers of "Black Cat" and "Nasty" on tour - {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
And a few more quotes from Britney herself - With all this, the comparisons and influence seem valid even if they often aren't mentioned as much as they should be. I disagree even her music and vocal styling's remind me more of a pop version of Janet than Madonna, her songs have similar style and mood and she is not into the whole pretentious crap, even her personality is Janet like more than the other one. I agree! During my Britney and Janet search I came across this video of Janet being reunited with an old friend, the sweetness and sincerity reminded me of Britney alot. The complete opposite of the often frigid and bitter personality of Madonna. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}
Britney also remade Janet's infamous Rolling Stone cover for her 2011 VMAs promo. That photo had nothing to do with the VMAsI was wrong, a similar mockup does appear in ad, and the 2011 VMA promo she did for her tribute ceremony that year sampled 'Rhythm Nation'. The original photo was not made for the VMAs though. Regardless, I think Britney draws from a wide range of influences, including (but not limited to) Janet and Madonna. On a case by case basis for images, performances, etc. there's going to be a few nods to both Janet and Madonna, as well as a handful of other artists she's drawn inspiration from. You're right, here's the original photo from the VMA Promo. That's definitely true, but I think her referencing a Janet photo from nearly twenty years ago speaks volumes about Janet's specific influence on her. Another recent Janet reference - Lace & Leather and Rope Burn performances with an audience member Upon further research, I've also found this compilation of photos that are similar and a few seem directly inspired by Janet. Very interesting Britney and Janet Photo ComparisonsA few Janet references in Britney videos - {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} The "Son of a Gun (Remix)" video referenced in " Overprotected (Darkchild Remix)" - Stronger - The chair routine was confirmed as a direct influence to Janet's chair routine in the "Pleasure Principle" video. The director also said "I thought of the chair sequence, in terms of how it applies to music videos, was Janet Jackson's 'Pleasure Principle' — the iconic chair sequence in that".
Britney was also supposed to do another chair routine for the "Break the Ice" video, which also seemed like a very Janet influenced song. Shame it didn't get to happen! Don't Let Me Be the Last to Know - Britney chose the director saying "He did Janet Jackson-remember when she made her comeback?" she says, alluding to Janet's makeover, which was orchestrated by Ritts when he directed her "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" video." (You Drive Me) Crazy - The chair routine in the "(You Drive Me) Crazy" video also seems like a reference to the infamous one in Janet's "Miss You Much" or even "You Want This" videos. Everytime - Janet also released a piano ballad titled "Everytime" as a single only a few years before Britney did. Another similarity is both videos have scenes of them submerged under water. Me Against the Music - Even Madonna being in it couldn't stop this video from being extremely Janet influenced for Britney's parts, even with the song! Britney's outfits are also reminiscent of the suits Janet wore in the "I Get Lonely" and "Alright" videos. I think what everyone is trying to say is that she combines Janet's skills and overall style with Madonna's legendness and edginess. I agree that Britney's impact is more comparable to Madonna's, but I honestly feel as if everything else that can be compared screams 'Janet' to me. I think she deserves a lot more credit for inspiring Britney. ;)
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 3, 2013 6:48:14 GMT -5
Why would Her single cover mention a song by a group no one knows that exists? That looks like the soundtrack cover and not Brit's single cover. Unless it's a maxi single or whatever it's called.
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 3, 2013 6:57:35 GMT -5
Brit enjoying her niece's recital
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Post by PrinceAli89 on Jun 3, 2013 13:38:14 GMT -5
Thanks for posting, can't wait to get my copy! I'm sure this is just the Wal-Mart exclusive, hopefully they use a new pic of Britney on the iTunes single cover.
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Post by Arrow on Jun 3, 2013 23:08:32 GMT -5
But the sexier and lighter tone she's been using throughout most of her career is very similar to Janet's. Vocally I don't think Britney or Janet are anything alike when you compare Britney's earlier music. She never sang like Janet until around the Britney era, where she wanted her voice to be more sexual, breathy and pant-like but I would say the Janet similarities musically speaking end after that album. Also vocally speaking, Janet is not the only female artists who also had a light voice like that which was also seen to be heavily sexualized in nature. I believe Paula and Mariah also ended up making their voices more seductive as they changed their images and styles, Madonna also ended up maturing her girlish hiccup into a more sexualized voice for Erotica and Bedtime Stories. I will definitely say that the Britney album was heavily Janet inspired though, that's obvious. Just as In The Zone is heavily Madonna inspired in terms of production, lyrics and attitude. But past that they bare little musical similarities, performance wise Britney shares a lot from previous performers from the likes of Paula, Janet and Madonna. I feel like this could be said about all humble female performers who have a sweet demeanor and who are nice ingenues in general though, I mean couldn't we say the same about people like Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, Kylie Minogue, Paula and various other female performers who Britney has also been compared to? I mean there were various publications that called Britney the "next Samantha Foxx" for instance because of her sexualized image. I guess I just don't understand where you are taking this in terms of the attitude discussion. Performance wise there is a definite link for Britney being influenced by Janet, but musically they are different artists completely -- Britney's catalog sounds little if any like Janet's for instance once you take away her self-titled album, and you can hear the pronounced differences if you listen to their albums back to back. She bares more musical likenesses to others whom have already been mentioned. Janet never went as far into dance music as Britney did, and Britney never engaged deeply with R&B and Hip Hop the way Janet did.
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Post by dzjx on Jun 4, 2013 14:39:54 GMT -5
To me there are 3 types of pop singers;
Ones with the voice: -Christina - Mariah
Ones with great performances/dancing. -Britney -Janet
Ones that create shock value/controversy. - Madonna - Lady Gaga
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 5, 2013 14:32:36 GMT -5
Gay anthem of the century is coming guys! :'(
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Post by moore746 on Jun 5, 2013 17:15:17 GMT -5
Gay anthem of the century is coming guys! :'( So much more monumental than anything Lady Gaga could release.
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Post by getback on Jun 6, 2013 12:19:54 GMT -5
Gay anthem of the century is coming guys! :'( I doubt it's a gay anthem, maybe something more in the vein of 'Boys (Part 2)'. I'm really not feeling 'Ooh La La', too bubblegum for me so can't wait for the new album. But the sexier and lighter tone she's been using throughout most of her career is very similar to Janet's. Vocally I don't think Britney or Janet are anything alike when you compare Britney's earlier music. She never sang like Janet until around the Britney era, where she wanted her voice to be more sexual, breathy and pant-like but I would say the Janet similarities musically speaking end after that album. Also vocally speaking, Janet is not the only female artists who also had a light voice like that which was also seen to be heavily sexualized in nature. I believe Paula and Mariah also ended up making their voices more seductive as they changed their images and styles, Madonna also ended up maturing her girlish hiccup into a more sexualized voice for Erotica and Bedtime Stories. I will definitely say that the Britney album was heavily Janet inspired though, that's obvious. Just as In The Zone is heavily Madonna inspired in terms of production, lyrics and attitude. But past that they bare little musical similarities, performance wise Britney shares a lot from previous performers from the likes of Paula, Janet and Madonna. With her first album she used her lower voice and it wasn't as comparable, but from her second album to present I think there's alot of similarities there. However, some similarities to Janet were noted even with her debut. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}"You Drive Me Crazy" is the second cut on the album and also a hit single release. The tune follows the pop/dance formula so well that as the introduction plays you wonder which pop band will chime in, lending their voices to the song. When Spears starts to sing on this one, she sounds a lot like Janet Jackson." www.cpyu.org/Page.aspx?id=76803Mariah also changed her tone to be lighter as the years went on, though Paula's never really changed. Although Madonna did change her voice to a lower tone around that time, it still sounds very different from Britney's. I think this is comparable to Janet due to Britney starting out using her deeper voice, then changing to be more light and sexy, rather than the opposite like Madonna did. Britney's natural voice even sounds more similar to the tone Janet used in the 80's before switching to the breathier register. With In the Zone, many reviews and Britney herself also credit it's inspiration to Janet which seem a bit more valid for most of the album's overall feel and content. I can find reviews that mention a Janet influence for nearly each song. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler} 'Me Against the Music' - "This is totally a Janet direction". "Actually, this song is to say, Janet Jackson's early stuff". www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=20609#msg7"The crop top/bellybutton ring/choreography thing was never Madonna. That was always Janet and Britney's signature styles. I remember Ryan Gosling once said that on Star Search everyone called Christina ''Little Mariah'' and Britney ''Little Janet''". "It's just that the media focused more on the Madonna comparison. Honestly, it would have made more sense for Janet to be on Me Against the Music instead of Madonna." atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?p=14605946#14605946"For the rest of the song, you'll hear Britney mumble her way through like an inaudible Janet Jackson." www.amazon.com/Me-Against-Music-Britney-Spears/dp/B0000SZ5RUShowdown – "She begins a sing/rap verse in a Janet Jackson manner." www.pop-music.com/track-by-track-review-of-us-edition-of-britney-spearss-in-the-zoneBreathe on Me - "The first of two of what I call the “Miss Jackson” tracks. Janet Jackson has long been known for sexually charged songs like “Rope Burn” and “Would You Mind.” This track, has a similar theme". www.411mania.com/wrestling/columns/429Outrageous - "'Outrageous' is R. Kelly’s dirty little take on the ideal Janet Jackson song". Don't Hang Up - "a mix of Prince, Everything But the Girl and Janet Jackson that is pretty near perfect." "Shades of No Doubt and Janet Jackson come through." forums.stardock.com/3634Britney even said Janet inspired some of it, like when she said 'Touch of My Hand', which some might compare to Madonna, was influenced by Janet and 'That's the Way Love Goes'. I think the only two songs on the album that can be directly compared to Madonna are maybe 'Shadow' and 'Brave New Girl' (which is ironically considered by many fans as the worst song on the album ). There is a Madonna influence but the Janet influence is heavily there and often seems miscredited to her. And the rest, especially "(I Got That) Boom Boom", "The Answer", "The Hook Up", "Early Mornin", even "Everytime" are much more comparable to Janet. Even many of the outtakes, such as "Ouch", "Money Love & Happiness" and "Peep Show" are Janet-like. I don't think 'Toxic' can really be compared to anyone though. Blackout, and Britney's past two albums also have some notable Janet influences from critics - {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}Blackout is also heavily Janet influenced with a majority of the songs (specifically Break the Ice, Get Naked, Freakshow, Perfect Lover, Why Should I Be Sad, Outta this World, Get Back, even Piece of Me vocally). Even outtakes such as Sippin' On, Kiss You All Over, Hooked On, 911, Rebellion (sounds like it could've been off 'The Velvet Rope), Mad Love, To Love Let Go are all comparable to her. "I absolutely love What You Sippin’ On And Sugarfall. I love my girl when she sings me a little r&b. She’s always so Janet when she does it." www.newbritneyology.com/?p=217A few select reviews of Circus and Femme Fatale - "That might be why " Unusual You," a ballad from Bloodshy & Avant, stands out. It goes for that shimmering waterfall mood first popularized by Janet Jackson rather than strict Madonna-style workouts." latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2008/11/album-review--1.htmlWhy Should I Be Sad - "This is a very Janet-Jackson sounding track" www.newbritneyology.com/?p=85Inside Out - "It’s a futuristic-sounding, slow-grooving tune about break-up sex that reminds us of Janet Jackson." www.hitfix.com/blogs/the-beat-goes-on/posts/listen-three-new-britney-spears-songs-from-femme-fatale#d6RHc3JlyBdEWLU8.99“ How I Roll” is a mysteriously un-beat-driven Britney gem that sounds like a hybrid of two unlikely sources: Janet Jackson‘s “Strawberry Bounce”.. www.thebacklot.com/5-underrated-britney-spears-tracks-in-honor-of-her-birthday/12/2012/ " Trouble for Me’ opens with a Wiley grime wobble, and segues into an almost Janet Jackson vocal." www.nme.com/blogs/nme-blogs/britney-spears-femme-fatale-first-listen#idGMz2DyECiD6HvC.99I suppose those do make more sense for Britney's overall impact, but her as an artist and performer seem much more comparable to Janet. I think she should be compared to who she's more similar to rather than someone for their impact, her status will still remain no matter who she's associated with. I feel like this could be said about all humble female performers who have a sweet demeanor and who are nice ingenues in general though, I mean couldn't we say the same about people like Debbie Gibson, Tiffany, Kylie Minogue, Paula and various other female performers who Britney has also been compared to? I mean there were various publications that called Britney the "next Samantha Foxx" for instance because of her sexualized image. I guess I just don't understand where you are taking this in terms of the attitude discussion. Performance wise there is a definite link for Britney being influenced by Janet, but musically they are different artists completely -- Britney's catalog sounds little if any like Janet's for instance once you take away her self-titled album, and you can hear the pronounced differences if you listen to their albums back to back. She bares more musical likenesses to others whom have already been mentioned. Janet never went as far into dance music as Britney did, and Britney never engaged deeply with R&B and Hip Hop the way Janet did. The reason this seems more comparable is because Britney's frequently mentioned Janet as an influence, even recently, and those other performers mentioned were never on Britney's level of infamy or success to be compared with her. After all, she did she say wanted to "be her", and Janet showed mutual gratitude back, so I guess as far as her persona goes that would be more similar to her. I've always found Britney very unique, but comparable to a more pop or dance Janet over her other contemporaries. Her hip-hop and urban type songs (which she does have many of throughout her discography) are also extremely reminiscent of Janet, and if her new album does end up "more hip-hop than pop" like she said then I think that influence will definitely show. I've found some similar fan comments that also agree - - "Spears’ main musical and visual influence has not been Madonna but Janet Jackson, particularly in her visual element. The Jackson influence can first be seen in the video for “I’m A Slave 4 U” (watch below), and it continues through “Me Against the Music,” “Boys,” and “My Prerogative,” as well as her live performances in general." www.vertigoshtick.com/2011/03/britney-spears-im-slave-4-u-why-its.html- "The crop top/bellybutton ring/choreography thing was never Madonna. That was always Janet and Britney's signature styles. I remember Ryan Gosling once said that on Star Search everyone called Christina ''Little Mariah'' and Britney ''Little Janet''". "It's just that the media focused more on the Madonna comparison. Honestly, it would have made more sense for Janet to be on Me Against the Music instead of Madonna." atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?p=14605946#14605946
- "I’ve always thought of Britney more as a smooth and mellow r&b girl in the vein of Janet and Michael. Even in her darkest, edgiest album
moments on ITZ and Blackout, the genre has still been pop with some urban r&b flavor."
- "Brit has had a history of incorporating urban sounds in her music, that is nothing new. I suspect that the new album will be a mix of pop/rb. Besides Madonna, she has said often in the past that Janet was a musical inspiration to her."
- "I adore Janet’s “Control” album, and the thought of Britney singing songs like those…. oooooh *shivers go up spine*
www.newbritneyology.com/?p=365- "I agree, she's more like Janet in songs and dance moves". - "Britney music and dance and etc have more from Janet, nothing at all of M-dolla". - "I think Brit will do just fine on her tour, and i think Britney is more like janet jackson then madonna." Madonna is certainly an influence, but the Janet influence is heavily there, maybe even more so than any of her other inspirations. Getting into Janet now is actually what made me notice all these things. :) Being a fan of Britney, I think this is something that should be noted more often. To me there are 3 types of pop singers; Ones with the voice: -Christina - Mariah Ones with great performances/dancing. -Britney -Janet Ones that create shock value/controversy. - Madonna - Lady Gaga I agree.
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Post by Honeymoon on Jun 7, 2013 15:10:31 GMT -5
She's working with Dev Hynes who was behind two of the greatest songs of 2012 (Solange's "Losing You", Sky Ferreia's "Everything is Embarrassing")! I haven't been this excited about a collaborator of hers in ages.
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Post by Mack on Jun 7, 2013 15:18:51 GMT -5
Thanks for posting, can't wait to get my copy! I'm sure this is just the Wal-Mart exclusive, hopefully they use a new pic of Britney on the iTunes single cover. I'm sure they'll figure out a way to use that same horrible pic from the Femme Fatale shoot again.
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 8, 2013 13:06:55 GMT -5
Can't wait for Ooh La La to be officially released! Only 8 days left and the summer anthem of the year will be unleashed. :'(
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Post by Keelzit on Jun 8, 2013 19:54:05 GMT -5
Ooh La La video shoot! Looking flawless!!! :'( iTunes, radio, video and hopefully available for streaming ALL on June 16th? 3rd #1 debut is coming Britards! :'( :'(
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Post by Honeymoon on Jun 8, 2013 19:57:12 GMT -5
The hair almost reminds me of the VMA 2008 look but not digging the scared deer in head lights expression. But then again that is only one raw shot.
Anyway, loving "Ooh La La" if only for the amazing music in the intro that also re-appears near the end in the final chorus.
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Post by Nicolexo on Jun 8, 2013 20:46:58 GMT -5
Brit's working with Mike WiLL, and we have a song title! He brought Ciara back (for like the third time in her career) [Shady ABC!] this year with her new single "Body Party" (she looks incredible in the video FYI), and Kelly Rowland's very sexy-titled song "Kisses Down Low." He's producing Britney Spears' new song "Outta Control" and Miley Cyrus' just-released single "We Can't Stop." The song has been out for only a couple of day but within the first 10 hours it topped iTunes singles charts in 18+ countries. abcnews.go.com/ABC_Univision/Entertainment/miley-cyrus-song-mike-made-success/story?id=19321940#.UbPeU9j4Kur
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