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Post by desertfloods on Nov 6, 2013 22:53:01 GMT -5
Forget the awards, here's the awesome, hilarious opening monologue!
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Post by what on Nov 6, 2013 22:58:28 GMT -5
Are there going to be any consequences? Is it really that big of a deal? At this point, I feel like pretty much every late night comedian has thrown some snark at the roll-out of Obamacare. I would prefer Brad & Carrie avoid politics altogether but this didn't bother me. I was more disappointed w/ the Hank Williams Jr. gag they pulled that one time. not only that. even people supporting obama have said publicly theyre disappointed with the website rollout. i dont see any big deal with what carrie and brad have done. there have been way worse jokes about it than what they did.
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Post by EPG on Nov 6, 2013 23:09:36 GMT -5
Are there going to be any consequences? Is it really that big of a deal? At this point, I feel like pretty much every late night comedian has thrown some snark at the roll-out of Obamacare. I would prefer Brad & Carrie avoid politics altogether but this didn't bother me. I was more disappointed w/ the Hank Williams Jr. gag they pulled that one time. not only that. even people supporting obama have said publicly theyre disappointed with the website rollout. i dont see any big deal with what carrie and brad have done. there have been way worse jokes about it than what they did. Literally, I just mentioned this in a previous post. There are problems that are being pointed out from people across the political aisle. However, she just threw herself into a contentious debate. She's not a comedian. She's a co-host of one of the most popular country music award shows. If she knew about these lines beforehand, I seriously question her judgement.
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Post by drock89 on Nov 6, 2013 23:11:51 GMT -5
Did anyone make a rip of the medley?
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 6, 2013 23:13:00 GMT -5
Although Carrie didn't win any physical awards, she's still a winner. Between hosting and performing, she was easily one of the biggest winners of the night.
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Post by what on Nov 6, 2013 23:23:44 GMT -5
not only that. even people supporting obama have said publicly theyre disappointed with the website rollout. i dont see any big deal with what carrie and brad have done. there have been way worse jokes about it than what they did. Literally, I just mentioned this in a previous post. There are problems that are being pointed out from people across the political aisle. However, she just threw herself into a contentious debate. She's not a comedian. She's a co-host of one of the most popular country music award shows. If she knew about these lines beforehand, I seriously question her judgement. seriously, what debate?! by monday next week, this will all be forgotten. so who gives a crap that shes not a comedian? doesnt mean she and others cant make jokes about it. and of course she knew about the lines beforehand, its a script. obviously its not something her and brad made up right at that moment.
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Post by jptexas on Nov 6, 2013 23:26:12 GMT -5
Great host, best performance, great album, 4 number one singles, sold out tour, no awards. What's wrong with this picture.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 6, 2013 23:32:28 GMT -5
Did anyone make a rip of the medley? Yes, please! I'm just getting the one off Youtube for now, but an HQ version would be quite nice!
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Post by what on Nov 6, 2013 23:38:02 GMT -5
Great host, best performance, great album, 4 number one singles, sold out tour, no awards. What's wrong with this picture. the blown away era still won grammy awards so its not a total loss. good enough for me. the cmas have been garbage since they got dominated by that voting bloc. miranda and blake could win the next 12 cma vocal awards (or for however long they stay married) just for farting, i couldnt care any less
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Post by neally on Nov 6, 2013 23:40:02 GMT -5
WOW:
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 6, 2013 23:48:02 GMT -5
Great host, best performance, great album, 4 number one singles, sold out tour, no awards. What's wrong with this picture. the blown away era still won grammy awards so its not a total loss. good enough for me. the cmas have been garbage since they got dominated by that voting bloc. miranda and blake could win the next 12 cma vocal awards (or for however long they stay married) just for farting, i couldnt care any less The sheer bluntness of this has me dying. LMAO.
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Post by countrygirl918 on Nov 6, 2013 23:48:52 GMT -5
Interesting tweet tonight from Brian Mansfield:
He's refusing to expand on what he means by that, so we're left to speculate. Then again, trying to understand the logic of CMA voters is pretty futile.
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Post by cufan7 on Nov 6, 2013 23:55:57 GMT -5
What a perfect performance to end the "Blown Away" era with. The hosting was also, as usual, perfect. Not to mention her red carpet and performance looks were both stunning. As far as the actual awards, I've grown to accept it and I honestly am just over it. What a perfect era. Bring on The Sound of Music! Interesting tweet tonight from Brian Mansfield: He's refusing to expand on what he means by that, so we're left to speculate. Then again, trying to understand the logic of CMA voters is pretty futile. But… wait. I'm intrigued.
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Post by evergreen on Nov 7, 2013 0:01:25 GMT -5
Carrie has a better voice than Miranda and consistently outsells her in every avenue, can someone explain to me how this woman keeps winning?
I dare someone to attempt to present a valid argument for that while maintaining a straight face. There is clearly some shady business going on behind closed doors.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 7, 2013 0:18:45 GMT -5
Carrie has a better voice than Miranda and consistently outsells her in every avenue, can someone explain to me how this woman keeps winning? I dare someone to attempt to present a valid argument for that while maintaining a straight face. There is clearly some shady business going on behind closed doors. There is no logical argument. It's a matter of who knows who, who pays who, how much they're paid, which label manages who, who's married to who, who's related to who, etc... It's 100% political. Miranda had a big year, but Carrie's was bigger in every aspect; radio, touring, album sales, digital sales, etc... Not to mention the voice. There's no sense in arguing for Carrie anymore because it doesn't make a difference, voters will vote for whomever is in their best interest, and that's how it works.
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Post by cufan7 on Nov 7, 2013 1:44:15 GMT -5
Interesting tweet tonight from Brian Mansfield: He's refusing to expand on what he means by that, so we're left to speculate. Then again, trying to understand the logic of CMA voters is pretty futile. And here are some more tweets, all very interesting. Interesting.
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Post by bornfearless2000 on Nov 7, 2013 8:23:32 GMT -5
Just like what i thought it would be. Carrie would be snubbed AGAIN. BUT she definitely killed the performance. and she looked so confident during the show (hosting and performing). I love her performance, she's so fierce. Her vocal was on spot. Her charisma, Her stage presence, her look. everything was just perfect. LOVE IT! So what if she didn't get standing O, it just showed that most people in those rooms were jealous. Miranda or Blake can have those awards for the next 100 years, i don't care. Carrie will always get the numbers and the recognition for her talent.
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Post by neally on Nov 7, 2013 10:26:46 GMT -5
Carrie's 1.5 year old album, 'Blown Away' has shot up to #22 on iTunes USA thanks to her performance last night and a $7.99 price tag.
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2013 12:04:11 GMT -5
I am not ever one who cares for medleys, but I do see where last night's performance worked as a summary/ending for the era. She was also really on point vocally, and she seemed really confidence on the stage. It is ridiculous that she didn't get a standing ovation, at least from her friends.
This voting bloc thing is out of control, but worse than that, Mansfield's tweets make it seem sinister. It's one thing for labels/friends to back one another, and another to extend it to being rude by not standing for people and to make people feel like they can't leave a paper trail. Wow. I assume Carrie is aware at least on some level of what is going on.
Miranda always seems sweet in her acceptance speeches, but now I think it's an act. Did she stand for Carrie after the performance? And I remember that after her ACM win, Miranda mentioning at least Carrie won a Grammy. Now it comes across more like Miranda saying she knows Carrie won't win an ACM or CMA, so she better be glad she has the Grammys.
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Post by cufan7 on Nov 7, 2013 13:34:42 GMT -5
This voting block thing is out of control, but worse than that, Mansfield's tweets make it seem sinister. It's one thing for labels/friends to back one another, and another to extend it to being rude by not standing for people and to make people feel like they can't leave a paper trail. Wow. I assume Carrie is aware at least on some level of what is going on. But the thing is, it doesn't sound like he is even addressing a voting block so much as something Carrie or her team did that put her in the bad graces of the CMA voters. It just intrigues me as Carrie has always come across as anti-controversy on all fronts and being smart about avoiding controversy. She just comes across as extremely inoffensive. But then again, and maybe I'm reading too much into this, but why would the audience give a standing ovation to so many performances and not Carrie's, which was clearly one of the best performances of the night (I don't believe I'm being biased here…) So maybe it is personal against Carrie? But, if it is about her team, taking into consideration the timing that she stopped winning awards and the new label head, etc. makes it all very interesting. Whatever it was, it must have been pretty severe to shut her out for this long. And when asked about if this could change, Brian's response: "Yes, but I doubt that it will within her legitimate window for winning awards." makes it sound like she is not in good standing with the Nashville insiders.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 7, 2013 15:25:05 GMT -5
That really just saddens me. She deserves SO much more. Is it odd that I want to cry right now after reading that? It seems terrible that people could hate someone who did nothing wrong to them... I know it's all just speculative, but it's hurtful to read that, still.
... also, who exactly is Brian Mansfield? I've heard the name lots of times, but not sure who he is...
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Post by jenglisbe on Nov 7, 2013 15:45:51 GMT -5
This voting block thing is out of control, but worse than that, Mansfield's tweets make it seem sinister. It's one thing for labels/friends to back one another, and another to extend it to being rude by not standing for people and to make people feel like they can't leave a paper trail. Wow. I assume Carrie is aware at least on some level of what is going on. But the thing is, it doesn't sound like he is even addressing a voting block so much as something Carrie or her team did that put her in the bad graces of the CMA voters. It just intrigues me as Carrie has always come across as anti-controversy on all fronts and being smart about avoiding controversy. She just comes across as extremely inoffensive. But then again, and maybe I'm reading too much into this, but why would the audience give a standing ovation to so many performances and not Carrie's, which was clearly one of the best performances of the night (I don't believe I'm being biased here…) So maybe it is personal against Carrie? But, if it is about her team, taking into consideration the timing that she stopped winning awards and the new label head, etc. makes it all very interesting. Whatever it was, it must have been pretty severe to shut her out for this long. And when asked about if this could change, Brian's response: "Yes, but I doubt that it will within her legitimate window for winning awards." makes it sound like she is not in good standing with the Nashville insiders. See, I didn't interpret it that way at all, but I can see why someone would. I took his tweets to mean more that Carrie's label/team just isn't as strong or savvy as the voting bloc of Blake/Miranda/Kelly/Reba/Borchetta/etc. I mean, Miranda was seemingly nice to Carrie in her acceptance speech by saying Carrie "blew her away," yet Miranda didn't stand after the performance. Why not?
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 7, 2013 16:47:33 GMT -5
That really just saddens me. She deserves SO much more. Is it odd that I want to cry right now after reading that? It seems terrible that people could hate someone who did nothing wrong to them... I know it's all just speculative, but it's hurtful to read that, still. ... also, who exactly is Brian Mansfield? I've heard the name lots of times, but not sure who he is... Brian Mansfield either writes or has wrote for USA Today.
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 7, 2013 16:54:32 GMT -5
That really just saddens me. She deserves SO much more. Is it odd that I want to cry right now after reading that? It seems terrible that people could hate someone who did nothing wrong to them... I know it's all just speculative, but it's hurtful to read that, still. ... also, who exactly is Brian Mansfield? I've heard the name lots of times, but not sure who he is... Brian Mansfield either writes or has wrote for USA Today. How would he really know about the politics of Nashville, then? He's an outside journalist - his knowledge of the political situation is probably just as valid as anyone's, no?
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Post by onebuffalo on Nov 7, 2013 16:56:00 GMT -5
Brian Mansfield either writes or has wrote for USA Today. How would he really know about the politics of Nashville, then? He's an outside journalist - his knowledge of the political situation is probably just as valid as anyone's, no? He has wrote a lot about country music at USA Today.
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Post by jptexas on Nov 7, 2013 16:57:46 GMT -5
Maybe a documentary should be made about Nashville and how the music business actually works. Let the chips fall where they may. I'd watch.
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Post by cufan7 on Nov 7, 2013 17:03:39 GMT -5
Brian Mansfield either writes or has wrote for USA Today. How would he really know about the politics of Nashville, then? He's an outside journalist - his knowledge of the political situation is probably just as valid as anyone's, no? He pretty much attends every music/entertainment industry related event (both public and private) in Nashville and lives in Nashville as well. He is in a powerful position as a journalist, from such a prominent news source, that I think it's a safe bet many insiders want to keep him in their (and of course the artist's they work with) good graces. Taylor Swift is the best example I have of this. Essentially, he is a Nashville insider.
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Post by Typo on Nov 7, 2013 17:04:18 GMT -5
Brian Mansfield is a member of the Country Music Association. He votes.
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Post by lookinghot on Nov 7, 2013 17:24:56 GMT -5
I wonder if her stance on gay rights has something to do with this. It's plain as day she's being snubbed left and right. What was the last award the cma or acms gave her?
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Post by carrieidol1 on Nov 7, 2013 17:29:15 GMT -5
I wonder if her stance on gay rights has something to do with this. It's plain as day she's being snubbed left and right. What was the last award the cma or acms gave her? She was being snubbed by the CMA long before she ever spoke out about it. Also, most of the artists in there have spoken up in some way about marriage equality, so I doubt that's it. I really don't think it's anything specific, it seems more in line to believe it's simply the politics of it.
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