aajunkie
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Post by aajunkie on Jun 30, 2005 14:08:14 GMT -5
Does anybody know of any other Christian charts besides 20 TCM, R&R, Billboard and PDA?
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Post by clem on Jun 30, 2005 14:41:19 GMT -5
CRW. Except I have limited access to it.
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Post by Hervard on Jun 30, 2005 14:58:13 GMT -5
CRW is the the chart that 20: The Countdown Magazine uses. Only I believe that their chart has more than 20 songs. On the 20: TCM website, they show the chart and, in the LW and 2W columns, they list positions outside the Top 20 sometimes, for a song that's debuting. I remember seeing that "Grace Like Rain" by Todd Agnew was at #35 for two weeks before debuting on the 20: TCM chart at #11.
If you read my 20: The Countdown Magazine postings each week, you'll probably note that, from time to time, the chart movement is erratic. This was especially evident in early 2004, which is when I started posting the chart on a weekly basis. The weird movement is what made me resume keeping close tabs on the chart. I say resume because I started listening to the show in May, 2000 and in early 2002, when the station on which I caught the show changed format, I became lax in printing out the lists. In late 2003, I always listened to the end of the show to see if "Word Of God Speak" by MercyMe was still #1. Three months after it fell out of the top spot, I was driving around, listening to the show, noticed that the chart was weird and began taking notes and have been doing so ever since.
BTW, I'll try to get this past weekend's 20 posted on the boards sometime tonight.
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Post by clem on Jun 30, 2005 18:42:25 GMT -5
No, 20: The Countdown Magazine bases its chart run on CRW charts. But it's not identical. Actually, it's far from identical. This past week on CRW charts, Joy William's "Hide" is #1 on both AC and CHR. Evidently, it's far from #1 on 20: The Countdown Magazine (it even moved down a spot to #5 just last week...).
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Post by Hervard on Jun 30, 2005 20:20:51 GMT -5
Oh, so THAT explains the weird chart moves. 20: Countdown just fudges around with the charts.
Out of curiosity, where did "Leaving 99" peak on the 20: Countdown chart?
Also, is 20: Countdown's year-end chart also different from CRW's?
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Post by clem on Jun 30, 2005 22:25:14 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, where did "Leaving 99" peak on the 20: Countdown chart? I'm not sure. I thought you kept tabulations of 20: The Countdown Magazine. Also, is 20: Countdown's year-end chart also different from CRW's? I believe so. |
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Post by Hervard on Jul 1, 2005 10:48:58 GMT -5
Out of curiosity, where did "Leaving 99" peak on the 20: Countdown chart? I'm not sure. I thought you kept tabulations of 20: The Countdown Magazine. Sorry, I meant where did it peak in CRW. |
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Post by aajunkie on Jul 1, 2005 15:17:23 GMT -5
No, 20: The Countdown Magazine bases its chart run on CRW charts. But it's not identical. Actually, it's far from identical. This past week on CRW charts, Joy William's "Hide" is #1 on both AC and CHR. Evidently, it's far from #1 on 20: The Countdown Magazine (it even moved down a spot to #5 just last week...). Then from where do they get their charts. ??? |
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Post by Hervard on Jul 5, 2005 15:25:31 GMT -5
No, 20: The Countdown Magazine bases its chart run on CRW charts. But it's not identical. Actually, it's far from identical. This past week on CRW charts, Joy William's "Hide" is #1 on both AC and CHR. Evidently, it's far from #1 on 20: The Countdown Magazine (it even moved down a spot to #5 just last week...). Yeah, but this past week, the song leapt to the top from #5. So it looks like 20: TCM might be a week behind, like many countdown shows are from their chart source (some are even two weeks behind). Did "Hide" jump from five to one in a previous edition of CRW? If so, then 20: Countdown might be identical after all. |
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Post by aajunkie on Jul 5, 2005 15:42:08 GMT -5
Yeah, I think 20TCM is identical to the CRW chart because I once saw on some website ten songs from the CRW chart and the spots were wrong, but then the next week when I heard 20TCM, the 10 songs were on the exact spots it said in that website.
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Post by clem on Jul 5, 2005 16:38:11 GMT -5
Yeah, now that you mention it, I do think that 20: The Countdown Magazine is identical to CRW charts, except just a week late.
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Post by aajunkie on Jul 8, 2005 15:02:54 GMT -5
Does anybody know a website besides 20TCM's website where the CRW charts are?
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Post by clem on Jul 9, 2005 2:17:25 GMT -5
There are parts of it here: CRW ACCRW CHRCRW InspoOf course, the full chart's not here, only glimpses of certain chart positions. And I think it's updated every... Tuesday? |
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Post by aajunkie on Jul 9, 2005 14:59:16 GMT -5
So there isn't a website where you can get the entire chart.
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Post by Hervard on Jul 9, 2005 18:53:19 GMT -5
There are parts of it here: CRW ACCRW CHRCRW InspoOf course, the full chart's not here, only glimpses of certain chart positions. And I think it's updated every... Tuesday? Cool! Now I can see where songs Top Ten in R&R that mysteriously disappear from the 20: Countdown chart wind up. So what was the CRW trend of "Voice Of Truth" over the past few weeks (after it fell off the 20: TCM chart)? |
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Post by aajunkie on Jul 9, 2005 19:14:46 GMT -5
I know the week it fell of 20TCM it was at 26.
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Post by clem on Jul 12, 2005 21:44:27 GMT -5
Okay, now I'm beginning to again have doubts that CRW and 20: The Countdown Magazine are congruent. On CRW, Joy's still #1 on AC and CHR. But she already dropped from #1 on 20: The Countdown Magazine... ???
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Post by Hervard on Jul 13, 2005 8:46:37 GMT -5
Maybe they monkey around with the chart every other week, like Dick Clark's US Music Survey used to do back about five years ago. That could explain the weird chart movement that we see from time to time.
What other differences between the two charts are there?
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Post by clem on Jul 13, 2005 9:09:57 GMT -5
Hm. I'm still waiting - maybe the CRW page just hasn't been updated yet (it looks awfully like last week's chart.)
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