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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 29, 2007 19:55:29 GMT -5
Anyone else think this song sends the wrong message to teens (it's blowing up at Top 40)? Anyhow, had to start a thread for Hot AC b/c it's in the 20s right now - personally, not one of my favorites - but it's pretty unique - it's definitely going Top 10 on CHR/Pop, and I think Hot AC might follow - I hear it's getting huge #'s of requests at Top 40 stations, including those that lean Hot AC
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jun 29, 2007 21:12:49 GMT -5
I think not only does this song send a bad message, but it's the most massive piece of trash on any chart right now.
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Post by tortuga on Jun 29, 2007 21:33:23 GMT -5
How is this sending a bad message?
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jun 29, 2007 21:36:43 GMT -5
How is this sending a bad message? Because the girl Amy Winehouse is acting as (not to mention Winehouse herself) really need rehab but they are choosing not to go.
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Jun 30, 2007 1:43:29 GMT -5
It's a bloody song! I honestly doubt there are many teens out there who listen to music for a message, and those who do usually tend to listen to other kinds of music (religious).
Anyway, I absolutely love this song. It's absolutely unique, and sounds like nothing else out there. We added it on my HotAC this pastt week, and it's gotten HUGE requests since, ranking only behind "Umbrella" and "Before He Cheats."
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 30, 2007 7:12:40 GMT -5
It's a bloody song! I honestly doubt there are many teens out there who listen to music for a message, and those who do usually tend to listen to other kinds of music (religious). I think music has quite an impression on teens - I teach high school, and taught middle school, so I'm speaking from a bit of experience - I wouldn't want my teenage son or daughter who needed to go to rehab for cocaine, alcohol, depression, etc. say "No No No"
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Post by Hervard on Jun 30, 2007 10:44:49 GMT -5
I think not only does this song send a bad message, but it's the most massive piece of trash on any chart right now. I'm so glad someone shares my opinion on this song, the worst song to hit the chart since "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree" (Yeah, I'm going there again. Deal with it! ;) )
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Post by Peach on Jun 30, 2007 11:54:14 GMT -5
It's a bloody song! I honestly doubt there are many teens out there who listen to music for a message, and those who do usually tend to listen to other kinds of music (religious). I think music has quite an impression on teens - I teach high school, and taught middle school, so I'm speaking from a bit of experience - I wouldn't want my teenage son or daughter who needed to go to rehab for cocaine, alcohol, depression, etc. say "No No No" Whatever! Amy isn't a role model, and if any kids look up to her, they must have more problems than Amy herself. lol.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jun 30, 2007 13:45:03 GMT -5
I think music has quite an impression on teens - I teach high school, and taught middle school, so I'm speaking from a bit of experience - I wouldn't want my teenage son or daughter who needed to go to rehab for cocaine, alcohol, depression, etc. say "No No No" Whatever! Amy isn't a role model, and if any kids look up to her, they must have more problems than Amy herself. lol. Judging by the huge number of teen requests for this song, and it's "out of nowhere" explosion on the CHR/Top 40 chart, Amy W. COULD very well become a role model to kids, if she rises to superstar status - either way, teens are still constantly going to hear this chorus on the radio over and over "They tell me I need to go to rehab, and I say no, no, no" There are lots of teens with problems - I think this is alot worse than any teenager listening to hard core rock or rap b/c - I taught a girl that committed suicide because she wouldn't go to rehab, and many other students with cocaine addictions that had to be pursuaded like crazy to go to rehab - if they hadn't they very well might have lost their lives - Sorry, this one hits too close to home
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jun 30, 2007 14:21:02 GMT -5
I think not only does this song send a bad message, but it's the most massive piece of trash on any chart right now. I'm so glad someone shares my opinion on this song, the worst song to hit the chart since "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree" (Yeah, I'm going there again. Deal with it! ;) ) That's the exact same thing I was thinking! "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" was my least favorite song of 2006, and this is my least favorite (so far) in 2007! Whatever! Amy isn't a role model, and if any kids look up to her, they must have more problems than Amy herself. lol. Judging by the huge number of teen requests for this song, and it's "out of nowhere" explosion on the CHR/Top 40 chart, Amy W. COULD very well become a role model to kids, if she rises to superstar status - either way, teens are still constantly going to hear this chorus on the radio over and over "They tell me I need to go to rehab, and I say no, no, no" There are lots of teens with problems - I think this is alot worse than any teenager listening to hard core rock or rap b/c - I taught a girl that committed suicide because she wouldn't go to rehab, and many other students with cocaine addictions that had to be pursuaded like crazy to go to rehab - if they hadn't they very well might have lost their lives - Sorry, this one hits too close to home I agree, and now that you've said this- I agree even more. I mean as a high school student I know most kids don't like "appropriate" music but this song is bad.
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Post by Hervard on Jul 2, 2007 11:22:57 GMT -5
I'm so glad someone shares my opinion on this song, the worst song to hit the chart since "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree" (Yeah, I'm going there again. Deal with it! ;) ) That's the exact same thing I was thinking! "Black Horse and the Cherry Tree" was my least favorite song of 2006, and this is my least favorite (so far) in 2007! Well, at least now I can tolerate hearing "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree" every once in awhile. Around this time last year, that song was all you heard on Hot AC radio and it looks as if "Rehab" will follow suit. The only difference is that at least we're pretty sure that "Rehab" won't be #1 for the whole year, since it started getting airplay in early June, so it came out a little too late to gain enough points whereas "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree" was released in early 2006.
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Post by tico on Jul 2, 2007 11:42:35 GMT -5
To be honest, this is a horrible song, but I find myself listening to it anyway.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 3, 2007 19:36:41 GMT -5
I think this song will burn out MUCH QUICKER than "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree" - people are going to be sick of it in about 8 weeks (my prediction) - it's going to shoot up the CHR chart, and then fall back down as quickly as it came up -
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Post by Hervard on Jul 3, 2007 19:49:19 GMT -5
^I sure hope you're right!
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Post by KelownaGuy20 on Jul 4, 2007 11:33:57 GMT -5
Oh, I could easily see it becomming a quick burner... but I'm sure as hell gonna enjoy it while it's bein' played!
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Post by reception on Jul 8, 2007 12:38:18 GMT -5
It was the sure shot on Rick Dees this week. It debuted at #36 on AT40 this week.
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Post by atlantaboy on Jul 9, 2007 11:39:43 GMT -5
It was the sure shot on Rick Dees this week. It debuted at #36 on AT40 this week. Rick Dees seems like he's at least 2 weeks behind!! What's the deal?
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Jul 11, 2007 1:25:14 GMT -5
I think this song offers a great perspective on things for an addict. I bet most people that are accused of being addicted to something are initially in denial. This song is probably from the perspective of that stage where they feel they don't need rehab. Certainly a natural stage even if it isn't right. I doubt Amy is promoting the idea of not going to rehab. She's writing about something that nobody else has really thought about for a song before. Good on her for that!
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Post by Pulse on Jul 11, 2007 7:55:19 GMT -5
Well, if people can complain about Beautiful Girls promoting suicide, then I guess this song does send a bad message LOL.
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Post by Chase on Jul 11, 2007 12:31:27 GMT -5
I think this song offers a great perspective on things for an addict. I bet most people that are accused of being addicted to something are initially in denial. This song is probably from the perspective of that stage where they feel they don't need rehab. Certainly a natural stage even if it isn't right. I doubt Amy is promoting the idea of not going to rehab. She's writing about something that nobody else has really thought about for a song before. Good on her for that! Amen. At least this song actually discusses an issue. What listeners do with it is their choice. Unfortunately, radio is littered with too many mind-numbing, uninspired songs because certain bands out there know that if you use the same five chords in different arrangements and mask them with different lyrics, you'll have an album of hits. But who will remember the message?
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 11, 2007 17:51:53 GMT -5
I think this song offers a great perspective on things for an addict. I bet most people that are accused of being addicted to something are initially in denial. This song is probably from the perspective of that stage where they feel they don't need rehab. Certainly a natural stage even if it isn't right. I doubt Amy is promoting the idea of not going to rehab. She's writing about something that nobody else has really thought about for a song before. Good on her for that! Amen. At least this song actually discusses an issue. What listeners do with it is their choice. Unfortunately, radio is littered with too many mind-numbing, uninspired songs because certain bands out there know that if you use the same five chords in different arrangements and mask them with different lyrics, you'll have an album of hits. But who will remember the message? How about "If Everyone Cared and nobody cried, if everyone loved and nobody lied, if everyone shared and swallowed thier pride, then we'd see the day when nobody died. Band fits the description perfectly.
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Post by Chromeozone on Jul 12, 2007 9:05:42 GMT -5
It's a bloody song! I honestly doubt there are many teens out there who listen to music for a message, and those who do usually tend to listen to other kinds of music (religious). I think music has quite an impression on teens - I teach high school, and taught middle school, so I'm speaking from a bit of experience - I wouldn't want my teenage son or daughter who needed to go to rehab for cocaine, alcohol, depression, etc. say "No No No" Oh, dear. Well when I become a parent, I hope my kids won't be sheep that do things just because "songs tell them so."
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Post by Chromeozone on Jul 12, 2007 9:07:37 GMT -5
Amen. At least this song actually discusses an issue. What listeners do with it is their choice. Unfortunately, radio is littered with too many mind-numbing, uninspired songs because certain bands out there know that if you use the same five chords in different arrangements and mask them with different lyrics, you'll have an album of hits. But who will remember the message? How about "If Everyone Cared and nobody cried, if everyone loved and nobody lied, if everyone shared and swallowed thier pride, then we'd see the day when nobody died. Band fits the description perfectly. Those lyrics aren't inspiring, but rather trite and wouldn't be out of place in a Disney song aimed at 5 year olds, ie, completely unrealistic.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Jul 12, 2007 17:31:23 GMT -5
How about "If Everyone Cared and nobody cried, if everyone loved and nobody lied, if everyone shared and swallowed thier pride, then we'd see the day when nobody died. Band fits the description perfectly. Those lyrics aren't inspiring, but rather trite and wouldn't be out of place in a Disney song aimed at 5 year olds, ie, completely unrealistic. So you're saying the lyrics of "Rehab" ARE INSPIRING? And obviously if the song can send a positive message to 5 year-olds, and still hit #1 on an adult format as a 4th single, it's gotta be pretty good. "Rehab" does no good for society and unlike a lot of explicit music (mostly rap), is not inspiring at all.
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Post by Chromeozone on Jul 12, 2007 20:06:07 GMT -5
Those lyrics aren't inspiring, but rather trite and wouldn't be out of place in a Disney song aimed at 5 year olds, ie, completely unrealistic. So you're saying the lyrics of "Rehab" ARE INSPIRING? And obviously if the song can send a positive message to 5 year-olds, and still hit #1 on an adult format as a 4th single, it's gotta be pretty good. "Rehab" does no good for society and unlike a lot of explicit music (mostly rap), is not inspiring at all. Haha, oh dear, no. Music doesn't have to be inspiring to be good. I was merely pointing out that the lyrics of "If Everyone Cared" were trite rather than inspiring, as you seemed to imply. As for it hitting #1, I think it goes without saying a song can be a hit without being any good (see: Girlfriend, Beautiful Girls, Buy U A Drank, etc etc). I think most critics (as well as music fans with taste, although of course this is all a matter of opinion/subjective/etc etc) would agree Nickelback is quite shit ;)
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Post by Chase on Jul 13, 2007 11:32:22 GMT -5
So you're saying the lyrics of "Rehab" ARE INSPIRING? And obviously if the song can send a positive message to 5 year-olds, and still hit #1 on an adult format as a 4th single, it's gotta be pretty good. "Rehab" does no good for society and unlike a lot of explicit music (mostly rap), is not inspiring at all. Haha, oh dear, no. Music doesn't have to be inspiring to be good. I was merely pointing out that the lyrics of "If Everyone Cared" were trite rather than inspiring, as you seemed to imply. As for it hitting #1, I think it goes without saying a song can be a hit without being any good (see: Girlfriend, Beautiful Girls, Buy U A Drank, etc etc). I think most critics (as well as music fans with taste, although of course this is all a matter of opinion/subjective/etc etc) would agree Nickelback is quite s**t ;) High five. I'll add that there's a difference between a song being inspired and being inspiring. "Rehab" does not inspire me personally, but the song was clearly inspired by a personal experience that Winehouse endured. As for "If Everyone Cared"...I wouldn't be surprised if John Mayer heard that song and said "this is what you meant to write if you were half-decent musicians"...and then wrote "Waiting on the World To Change" (a song that more eloquently states the need for change in modern affairs). As Prince Peach pointed out, the lyrics are trite and do not prompt one to think. And if a song can appeal to five year olds and hit #1 on the charts, it must be good? Faulty logic. First off, let's not ignore the relationships between record labels and radio stations. Are charts as accurate as we make them out to be? Second, I think the success of bands like Nickelback, Staind, Daughtry, et. al. goes to show that the American consumer/listening public is content with a steady diet of a Big Mac, fries, and a coke. Somewhere along the line, we became content with not thinking anymore. We like morning shows packed with phony personalities to tell us what Paris Hilton is up to. And in between talk sets, we hear songs we don't have to think much about while we get dressed for another day of ignoring reality. I'll shake the hand of the first Hot AC PD to say "no, this station can do better" when offered a song of IEC's quality. Money is king, and music has suffered because of it. As listeners, let's try not to be sponges.
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Post by reception on Jul 15, 2007 13:19:24 GMT -5
It debuted at #32 on Rick Dees this week.
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Post by Hervard on Aug 31, 2007 10:56:06 GMT -5
I think this song will burn out MUCH QUICKER than "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree" - people are going to be sick of it in about 8 weeks (my prediction) - it's going to shoot up the CHR chart, and then fall back down as quickly as it came up - Well, it looks like your prediction was correct! On the current chart, it falls 15-22 with a loss of 262 spins. So it won't be as big as "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree." Thank the Lord!
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Post by Pipa on Aug 31, 2007 17:57:17 GMT -5
This was on the radio at school today and everyone laughed at it. Nobody really takes her seriously at all.
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Post by Kid Pulse on Sept 3, 2007 12:01:01 GMT -5
I've never seen anything like this on Hot AC. 22 28 AMY WINEHOUSE Rehab 2006 Universal Republic 571 964 -393 2.550 This was on the radio at school today and everyone laughed at it. Nobody really takes her seriously at all. HAHA, that is so awesome man!!
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