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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 22:08:41 GMT -5
Honestly, I instantly though Seth Alley. But maybe EYB (who was brought to the label via the Republic J/V not because Scott was a huge fan of them) is actually done with the label in general. I can definitely see a label like Black River jumping to sign a successful touring act who also has had huge radio hits. I also could see this being about Craig Wayne Boyd too because there was definitely a lot of friction there. Ah, it could be Seth Alley. Perhaps a similar situation to Jackie Lee and Craig Wayne Boyd, where they were signed to BMLG but the label never released a single. I just found it odd that, out of all the established artists on the BMLG roster, the Eli Young Band was the only artist that Borchetta didn't even mention. I know they only had one under-performing single, but I seem to remember reading something about how there was a bit of tension between the EYB and Republic Nashville. It does read as if BMLG will be dropping one of its artists soon, but all we have so far is speculation. Back to Casey James for a minute, I'd love for one of the other big labels to take a look at him. If none of them bite, then I'd love to see him go to BBR or Black River. I just hope that Casey's got a really good manager on his side, because I think he's far too talented to just fade into obscurity.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jul 7, 2015 22:11:13 GMT -5
Problem with Casey is does anyone still know he is around? He hasn't had a meaningful single in YEARS,
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 22:14:46 GMT -5
Problem with Casey is does anyone still know he is around? He hasn't had a meaningful single in YEARS, "Fall Apart" got a pretty decent amount of adds right out of the gate, and he went on another big radio tour before its launch, so yeah, everybody in radio knows who Casey is, lol. He might not have any momentum but he's still got more going for him than any just-signed no-name artist on any other label out there. He was just the victim of bad timing here, with the change in leadership at Sony. That almost always results in the depart of artists AND staffers.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jul 7, 2015 22:17:30 GMT -5
Fair points as always, Jamie.
I am just hoping with this new Sony hire we might see the reamergance of Jessica Andrews and SheDaisy.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 7, 2015 22:44:01 GMT -5
I am just hoping with this new Sony hire we might see the reamergance of Jessica Andrews and SheDaisy. Wait, what? Tell me what you apparently know that I don't, lol.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 7, 2015 22:49:04 GMT -5
I am just hoping with this new Sony hire we might see the reamergance of Jessica Andrews and SheDaisy. Wait, what? Tell me what you apparently know that I don't, lol. Randy Goodman was a big supporter of Jessica and SHeDAISY in the past and I could see him potentially bringing one of them back, though there's other artists he worked with extensively as well that could be brought back as well. Still I think Jessica could have a few more hits in her if backed by a good label and SHeDAISY may not but I think they'd be decent enough sellers to make it worth somebody's time to release a new album from them.
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Post by bigfan101 on Jul 7, 2015 22:49:59 GMT -5
I am just hoping with this new Sony hire we might see the reamergance of Jessica Andrews and SheDaisy. Wait, what? Tell me what you apparently know that I don't, lol. Stacey said pretty much what I was going to say :)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2015 22:51:01 GMT -5
I am just hoping with this new Sony hire we might see the reamergance of Jessica Andrews and SheDaisy. Wait, what? Tell me what you apparently know that I don't, lol. Randy Goodman was the founder of Lyric Street Records, which had SheDaisy, Jessica Andrews, and Rascal Flatts, among others. Before Lyric Street he was with RCA. So this is a return to Sony for him, but he played a huge roll in the careers of the artists bigfan101 mentioned. According to the Tennessean, Goodman is still Rascal Flatts' manager, but I imagine he'll have to give up that gig now that he's going to Sony. I don't know if he would consider signing any former Lyric Street artists to Sony, but you never know. The thought popped into my head as well.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 7, 2015 22:54:17 GMT -5
Just thought about it and If he did bring back any old Lyric Street artists I'd also like to see him bring back Tyler Dickerson and/or Sarah Buxton! They both have material left in them I think. :)
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Post by bigfan101 on Jul 7, 2015 23:00:33 GMT -5
Ooh, Sarah. I am 100% on board with that one too.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 7, 2015 23:19:28 GMT -5
Not to be a debbie downer but rarely do you see old acts get signed to another label after being away for so long, even if Goodman goes to Sony after being the founder of Lyric Street. He does have executives and people working with him and unfortunately most labels examine cost vs. reward when deciding on talent to sign and whether or not they would predict that artist to be effective with radio and sales success, especially with how drastically country radio has changed over the past 8-10 years. SHeDaisy hasn't had a single in nine years (wow, has it really been that many?!), Sarah is content on being a songwriter these days, who knows with Jessica since she's been MIA since 2009, and Tyler Dickerson has gone through a very drastic cycle of artistry since Lyric Street went under, though last I heard he has gotten back to making true blue country music. I'm not saying that it can't happen, but it's still extremely doubtful. I actually love Randy Goodman, as I remember him vividly in interviews when he was at Lyric Street and he always seemed like a terrific person. I wish that at least one of those artists got a chance though with any label, particularly SHeDaisy. I just need something, anything from them in the way of new music.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jul 8, 2015 0:07:24 GMT -5
Oh wow, I had no idea who Randy Goodman was and that he was the guy behind Lyric Street back in the day. I did enjoy a number of the artists that label broke and I'd be thrilled if some of them could come back. Not sure how likely that would be, but it certainly would be nice! I'd most like to see a return for SHeDAISY. I still don't understand why they fell off the face of the earth and haven't gotten any new music released since 2006. Would love to see the return of a girl group to the country music landscape. <3
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 8, 2015 11:54:51 GMT -5
You know, it's very possible Sony will sign a couple of "heritage" acts like all the other labels have. Artists that make sense to them as artists who still can sell/tour. SheDaisy could be an artist under that scenario. Jessica Andrews is still young enough that if the right music was to come out from her, she could be signed. Honestly, I would hope that if Sony opens a heritage label (like Monument or Epic or something like that), they'd consider signing Ty Herndon. Because man, not only does he still sound great but he looks like he hasn't aged a bit either.
That all being said, I don't think that any of the Lyric Street artists from the past are likely to show up on Sony Nashville in the future except for maybe Rascal Flatts (if they ever left Big Machine which isn't out of a realm of possibility).
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 8, 2015 13:02:48 GMT -5
From Billboard on the hiring of Randy Goodman as new Sony Nashville CEO:
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Post by slowmo on Jul 8, 2015 15:08:46 GMT -5
Eli Young Band have been moved over to Valory Music. Music Row
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Post by rsmatto on Jul 8, 2015 15:16:38 GMT -5
Eli Young Band have been moved over to Valory Music. Music RowFigured they weren't off the roster. But it made sense to remove them from Republic at this point because Republic's roster wasn't doing the best with them. Now they're on the "Redneck" roster. Interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 15:18:00 GMT -5
Ok so if it's not Eli Young Band then my money says Waterloo or Laura Bell yeah that's it. I think Laura is out. I wonder looking at Warner Nashville who do you guys see as a likely person to get dropped.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 8, 2015 15:24:37 GMT -5
Ok so if it's not Eli Young Band then my money says Waterloo or Laura Bell yeah that's it. I think Laura is out. I wonder looking at Warner Nashville who do you guys see as a likely person to get dropped. Laura Bell Bundy isn't a radio artist, so I wouldn't say her for now since she hasn't been in the spotlight lately and she did just release an album. It's all speculation on who will be off BMLG soon. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I have no clue about Warner Music Nashville. Perhaps they will drop promotion for Gloriana's music before year's end, if that's what you were wondering about. I don't see the Railers breaking out either after their failed debut single. Ryan Kinder is set to release his debut single for the label, as is William Michael Morgan.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jul 8, 2015 15:25:17 GMT -5
The Eli Young Band move ends up being a lateral one. They are still a 'Big Machine' artist. That's like moving from RCA to Columbia. Do I see the Eli Young Band having more success at Valory? Time will tell.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 8, 2015 15:28:02 GMT -5
The Eli Young Band move ends up being a lateral one. They are still a 'Big Machine' artist. That's like moving from RCA to Columbia. Do I see the Eli Young Band having more success at Valory? Time will tell. There's been rumors about EYB not really being a fit with Republic Nashville (perhaps friction?), so the lateral move to another imprint isn't a surprise, and it's very good news if you're a EYB fan. Perhaps they will now make an EP or album that is more along the lines of Jet Black & Jealous or Life At Best and less Turn It On.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 15:30:17 GMT -5
Ok so if it's not Eli Young Band then my money says Waterloo or Laura Bell yeah that's it. I think Laura is out. I wonder looking at Warner Nashville who do you guys see as a likely person to get dropped. Laura Bell Bundy isn't a radio artist, so I wouldn't say her for now since she hasn't been in the spotlight lately and she did just release an album. It's all speculation on who will be off BMLG soon. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I have no clue about Warner Music Nashville. Perhaps they will drop promotion for Gloriana's music before year's end, if that's what you were wondering about. I don't see the Railers breaking out either after their failed debut single. Ryan Kinder is set to release his debut single for the label, as is William Michael Morgan. Oh Ok why Gloriana I mean they don't sell (at all) but there has to be a weaker artist then them. Uh what about Ashley Monroe or Big Smo or Charlie Worsham. I thought Trouble gave Gloriana a little momentum back or is it the opposite. Kid Rock could Kenny Rogers. Sabre who do you think will leave then from Big Machine
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 8, 2015 15:41:04 GMT -5
Laura Bell Bundy isn't a radio artist, so I wouldn't say her for now since she hasn't been in the spotlight lately and she did just release an album. It's all speculation on who will be off BMLG soon. I guess we'll just have to wait and see. I have no clue about Warner Music Nashville. Perhaps they will drop promotion for Gloriana's music before year's end, if that's what you were wondering about. I don't see the Railers breaking out either after their failed debut single. Ryan Kinder is set to release his debut single for the label, as is William Michael Morgan. Oh Ok why Gloriana I mean they don't sell (at all) but there has to be a weaker artist then them. Uh what about Ashley Monroe or Big Smo or Charlie Worsham. I thought Trouble gave Gloriana a little momentum back or is it the opposite. Kid Rock could Kenny Rogers. Sabre who do you think will leave then from Big Machine Gloriana not selling "at all" is a big problem. If you're a label, you can't just continue to pump money and resources into something that continues to give you little to no return. They've been with the label long enough where they are what they are, which isn't a seller. Luckily for them radio seems interested enough, so perhaps they'll try at least one more single. Ashley Monroe I don't see getting dropped as her record The Blade is getting released later this month, and I expect a new single from her soon. Big Smo is another "non-radio' act, and Charlie is in the process of recording his sophomore album. Now that doesn't 100% guarantee he won't get dropped (The Farm are a prime example of that), but I highly doubt it. Warner loves Charlie right now and are about to give it another go at radio. Kid Rock and Kenny Rogers are heritage type acts and I don't see them being the ones that were talked about in the article. Your guess is as good as mine in regards to BMLG. I guess I lean towards Seth Alley or Waterloo Revival but they invested a ton of money in Seth's radio tour and EP, so it would be a little strange to see him let go. Levi Hummon is supposed to have new music coming soon.
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Post by carriekins on Jul 8, 2015 15:43:03 GMT -5
Charlie is going back into the studio this fall as jhomes87 indicated a couple days ago, so I don't think he's in danger yet.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 8, 2015 15:44:15 GMT -5
Charlie is going back into the studio this fall as jhomes87 indicated a couple days ago, so I don't think he's in danger yet. He's actually starting the recording process of his sophomore album this summer. :)
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Post by carriekins on Jul 8, 2015 15:53:07 GMT -5
Charlie is going back into the studio this fall as jhomes87 indicated a couple days ago, so I don't think he's in danger yet. He's actually starting the recording process of his sophomore album this summer. :) Wellllllllll soon. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 16:00:29 GMT -5
Why would they drop Gloriana though. Sure their singles haven't sold well same thing with that album but they only released that a month ago you would figure they'd capitalize on what little spark that album got the band and release another song. Or would've that done worse than Trouble.
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 8, 2015 16:10:02 GMT -5
Why would they drop Gloriana though. Sure their singles haven't sold well same thing with that album but they only released that a month ago you would figure they'd capitalize on what little spark that album got the band and release another song. Or would've that done worse than Trouble. I really don't see why you're a little puzzled with the potential of Gloriana getting dropped. The label has little to no faith they can get another single to do as well as "Trouble" and probably spent a ton of money on just achieving "Trouble's" peak. I will say they sold fairly respectively with their first two albums, but Three's sales have been downright embarrassing. Gloriana's popularity is going in the wrong direction. Their only real big success at radio was "(Kissed You) Good Night", and that was three years ago now. Like I said before, I would bet on them getting at least one more single (John Esposito really is a big fan of theirs), but if they were to be let go from Warner over the next few months, I wouldn't at all be surprised.
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Post by Kanenrá:ke on Jul 8, 2015 16:25:02 GMT -5
Why would they drop Gloriana though. Sure their singles haven't sold well same thing with that album but they only released that a month ago you would figure they'd capitalize on what little spark that album got the band and release another song. Or would've that done worse than Trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if they were already dropped and it just hasn't been updated yet, there's been absolutely nothing but silence about them from the label since the album came out and it's not like there's no history of artist getting dropped shortly after an album came out. If I remember correctly both Jason Sellers and Mindy McCready were dropped 1 day after their 2nd and 3rd albums came out respectively.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2015 16:31:16 GMT -5
Charlie Worsham and Ashley Monroe haven't seen a lot of radio success, but that's not looking at the big picture. Both of them are critically-acclaimed, and someone like Ashley is going to sell more albums than an artist like Gloriana or even Canaan Smith. I'm sure Warner Bros. would love to score a hit with Ashley but even if she never goes top 40, I suspect they'll keep her around and be perfectly content to let her make music that the critics and award shows (Grammys) adore.
Anyway, I don't really want this thread to devolve into a "which artists are going to get dropped" predictions thread. The only reason we've been discussing the BMLG roster is because Scott Borchetta himself implied in his interview (with Hits Daily Double) that one of the label's artists had "given up the ghost". That pretty much means you're done with the label, so we were trying to figure out who it might be. Now that we have confirmation that EYB is going over to Valory, my best guess is that Borchetta was talking about one of their artists in development (maybe Seth Alley). Borchetta's comment read as if it were an artist they were developing, and Laura Bell Bundy doesn't fit those parameters. Waterloo Revival got their 1st add on Monday for a song called "Bad For You", so chances are that that'll be their next single.
This thread should be for news: when an artist is signed, when one is dropped, when a label makes a big change, etc. We could go up and down the list of labels and predict which artists won't be there in a year or two, but I don't really see the point of that. It's all just speculation unless you're one of the few Pulse members who actually has ties to the music industry. The occasional comment wondering about an artist's status with their label is fine, but I don't want to see pages upon pages of "I bet this artist gets dropped" or "This artist should get dropped, I can't believe they ever got signed", etc. The main point of this thread is to track which artists are where. So yeah, artist/label news only please :)
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Post by sabre14 on Jul 8, 2015 16:32:06 GMT -5
Why would they drop Gloriana though. Sure their singles haven't sold well same thing with that album but they only released that a month ago you would figure they'd capitalize on what little spark that album got the band and release another song. Or would've that done worse than Trouble. I wouldn't be surprised if they were already dropped and it just hasn't been updated yet, there's been absolutely nothing but silence about them from the label since the album came out and it's not like there's no history of artist getting dropped shortly after an album came out. If I remember correctly both Jason Sellers and Mindy McCready were dropped 1 day after their 2nd and 3rd albums came out respectively. Going back a ways with Sellers and McCready, lol. Chuck Wicks was let go from RCA while "Old School" was charting and Jason Michael Carroll might have been dropped while "Hurry Home" was still on the charts, though his parting ways with Arista was strange. Of course I already brought up the fact that Warner dropped their affiliation with The Farm while they were recording their sophomore album. Anything's possible in this cruel business.
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