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Post by Music Fan on Jan 13, 2017 1:26:21 GMT -5
They really need to send MILF Money to radio. The time to do that has long passed. It's not like it was some unknown song the public had never heard of. It made a large enough impact upon initial release that sending it to radio now would result in nothing happening. Life Goes On, on the other hand, could be sent, and it really needs to be since it's found its way into the top 50 on hot AC. It's been hovering 38-40 for like a month, and it's super annoying to not see it go past that.
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Post by Live Your Life on May 24, 2017 18:49:04 GMT -5
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Post by Caviar on May 24, 2017 19:09:56 GMT -5
MILF was such a bop.
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Post by SHOOTER on May 24, 2017 20:41:42 GMT -5
She's over 40 and couldn't get a hit so might as well go indie.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on May 24, 2017 22:13:14 GMT -5
So she's indie as solo?
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Post by Linnethia Monique on May 24, 2017 22:59:25 GMT -5
She's doing a deal similar to what Janet Jackson did for the Unbreakable album. She created her label, Rhythm Nation, which is independent but uses the services of BMG to distribute it.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on May 24, 2017 23:14:56 GMT -5
She's doing a deal similar to what Janet Jackson did for the Unbreakable album. She created her label, Rhythm Nation, which is independent but uses the services of BMG to distribute it. Not bad. Clearly, she can bring a little buzz still, so "something" can happen for her.
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Post by bat1990 on May 27, 2017 9:02:19 GMT -5
Seems like everyone's running to BMG or eOne these days
The #impact of Mya going indie to make more coinz for herself
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Post by Choco on May 27, 2017 17:45:20 GMT -5
She needs to fire her team and get some new management. I don't think she's done but it's not looking good. Life Goes On went completely under the radar.
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Post by Dammn Baby on May 27, 2017 18:26:21 GMT -5
She needs to fire her team and get some new management. I don't think she's done but it's not looking good. Life Goes On went completely under the radar. It sucked, so no surprise there. She needs good material.
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Post by SHOOTER on May 27, 2017 18:49:50 GMT -5
Milf $ was a real missed opportunity. She's already a victim of pop music ageism for sure but with the right material, she should at least be able to have an era on par with Gwen's last album cycle.
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Post by Music Fan on May 27, 2017 23:55:02 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure she wasn't happy with the Interscope rollout. It seemed MILF $ being released was her idea, and they didn't fully back her eventually --by pulling the ads date--. even after giving her a lavish video. Then they waited so long to release a second single, that her buzz was gone. Hopefully she has the control she desires on many of these decisions with change. Interscope flawlessly handled her first era, so it's a bit disappointing it didn't work out the same the 2nd time around.
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Post by Wavey✨️ on May 28, 2017 9:54:56 GMT -5
It's like they halfway had it with "L.A. Love", then let shit fall apart.
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Post by Ling-Ling on May 28, 2017 10:00:35 GMT -5
I think Fergie could have easily come out and gotten some hits, but they just kept releasing the weakest material. Like none of those songs were going to be hits. And they just dropped them with no promo, she was coming back after such a long hiatus, she needed to hit those f**king streets and promote the return of f**king Fergie. I don't know what anyone was thinking.
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Post by stunnedout on May 28, 2017 10:02:57 GMT -5
They shouldn't have done that last awful BEP album. it ruined her solo career.
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Post by Ling-Ling on May 30, 2017 12:09:19 GMT -5
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Post by josh on May 31, 2017 10:37:21 GMT -5
That's too bad. Their partnership was definitely mutually beneficial to to both bep and ferg during the last decade, but I guess that time has passed.
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Post by Dylan :) on May 31, 2017 12:31:55 GMT -5
I loved Black Eyed Peas when I was younger, but Fergie made it. Even if they were to release a song with her now I feel they would struggle, let alone without her and with the direction will.i.am is going in production (that remake is honestly trash, the instrumental and vocals are terrible, the original is 100 times far superior).
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Post by Linnethia Monique on May 31, 2017 12:55:55 GMT -5
They're both over at this point.
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Post by Ling-Ling on May 31, 2017 13:22:41 GMT -5
On a more positive note, maybe Nicole Scherzinger will FINALLY get her chance to be in BEP?
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Post by Glove Slap on May 31, 2017 13:47:10 GMT -5
The Beginning gave Fergie 2 more hits she can take to her Vegas club show than she would have had otherwise, and anyone thinking she was the sole reason for BEP's success must have spent every year of the new millennium under a rock with the exception of 2005 :sip2: .
Time to start work on the workout videos and hit up LL for his contacts.
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Post by Love Plastic Love on May 31, 2017 17:03:37 GMT -5
I think there has always been drama between Fergie and the group. Like, I remember reading even way back 10+ years ago that they (or maybe just Will.i.am?) were upset that she got so much attention and that there were conscious attempts to minimize her involvement in later cds/singles despite label wanting more.
Honestly, I think they would have both fared better if they worked together. I mean, even The Beginning, which kinda flopped or at least was seen as one, sold nearly a million cds in the US alone and got a few hits. I think it would have been easy for them to chug along and get a few more hits as a group and Fergie use that as a launching pad for her second solo cd. But, I guess if there are already bad feelings involved and at least two members wanting to be solo then it isn't meant to be.
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Post by trustypepper on May 31, 2017 17:28:11 GMT -5
Praying we get the album ASAP.
I absolutely adore BEP but will.i.am needs to give it a rest and realize that Fergie took them to the next level. I feel like he thinks he's some sort of legend in the music industry but that's far from the truth.
There definitely has been drama for quite a while though. Even on The Beginning, it seemed like Fergie played a smaller-than-usual role.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on May 31, 2017 17:31:23 GMT -5
Praying we get the album ASAP. I absolutely adore BEP but will.i.am needs to give it a rest and realize that Fergie took them to the next level. I feel like he thinks he's some sort of legend in the music industry but that's far from the truth. There definitely has been drama for quite a while though. Even on The Beginning, it seemed like Fergie played a smaller-than-usual role. Fergie AND will.i.am both took the group to the next level. They could've got any other singer to join the group and it would've been just as successful but the shift in their sound is what really made them who they are today. For that alone credit should be given to will.i.am because he masterminded and executed that.
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Post by #brayden on May 31, 2017 17:42:03 GMT -5
Fergie has been an integral part of the BEP for several years and I can't see the group being successful without her simply because she brings a lot of interest to the group.
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Post by Glove Slap on May 31, 2017 23:43:38 GMT -5
Ah, I knew I made a post about this shit at some point, it still holds. People certainly know who Fergie is and her biggest hits were so outlandish and campy that they've almost become identifiers for that era so it's not even that her hits have been forgotten but still...does that mean anything now? I like the Ferg alright but to act like she is/was a major part of pop music history is a bit of a stretch imo. The Dutchess was a sales monster and she had a series of strong singles but it was not some seminal work of the time and I don't think Fergie has ever really been respected or admired for her craft, even for a pop artist.
I'd love to see her comeback and give us some London Bridge sleeze again but if she doesn't take off I won't be totally shocked. People barely took her seriously as a solo artist back then and now she's become lumped in with the BEP who have become more noted for releasing watered down generic factory hits than for their awesome early 2000s work. If she has some great current material, I could see her getting a hit but I really don't see the GP/radio opening their arms and welcoming her back like some lost sister if everything isn't completely on point. This board has a long (and ongoing) history of over-crediting female artists. One of those that I've seen was that Fergie was the major reason for the BEP's success for all four of the album campaigns that she was a part of the BEP, which isn't true. For the first two, you can convincingly make that argument, especially for the second project. One of the reasons she was in such a great position going into her first solo project was that she was the focal point of the biggest hits of Monkey Business (Don't Phunk With My Heart and especially My Humps) placed her squarely as a frontwoman in the spotlight. There was no denying that she had emerged as the biggest star of the group, but that does not mean that that held afterwards. Their end of decade return signaled a shift, and not just musically. There was a definite conscious effort to equalize her and will.i.am, and it worked. Her profile went down enough and his went up enough to place them on equal footing pretty much everywhere that wasn't a gay club. Not only did it work too, it worked to massive success and anyone who denies that is...well, in denial for lack of a batter term. The BEP were able to successfully morph themselves into an act that could play the World Cup and The Superbowl and in the process, they also played a major part in reshaping the landscape of popular music. And once they wrapped up those concerts for The Beginning, she pretty much vanished while Will stayed around, he's probably a bigger celebrity now than her. Of the 5/6 (Imma Be was pretty much a US & Canadian hit only) hits they got off The E.N.D. and The Beginning, she was really present as the center only on one, Meet Me Halfway, which didn't do as outstandingly as some of the others stateside. I remember for pretty much every single release they had other than that here, there were floods of complaints on how she wasn't featured enough and sounded processed, and the songs would still go on to be big hits. Some people's vision of Fergie here is as dated as those shots from the video set. Once the BEP regrouped, she was pulled back from being the only focal point of the group to sharing it with Will. And at the same time, seeing as her vision seems to be stuck in the mid-00s, it's no wonder will.i.am downgraded her. And I'm not even saying this as a hater. My love for the BEP is well known here and I spun all four of the albums they did with her, along with her solo project, into the ground, but the writing's clearly on the wall here.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jun 1, 2017 4:59:12 GMT -5
There are two people that matter in Black Eyed Peas. That's Fergie and Will.i.am, the other two guys are irrelevant and could be replaced by any two homeless people off the street. Fergie gave them sex appeal, pop appeal and a singer (and star power later on). Will.i.am drove the direction and the production. Will.i.am was by far the more influential one given that it was his idea to add Fergie and push the act into a mainstream crossover act. And his hand in everything musically clearly drove their sound and their hits. That being said, the front end product is sometimes more important than the behind the scene details, which is why Fergie is more famous than he is and was able to launch a successful solo career while he continuously flounders as a solo act (making music very similar to BEP at that). And the fact that his biggest hit is attributable to another female artist speaks volumes. Is Fergie the sole reason they were big, clearly not. But she's a huge part of it. BEP needs Fergie, that's undeniable. Two irrelevant randos and Will.i.am is not going to sell that group and chances are, if they do get a hit, it's because of a famous artist singing the hook. But on the flip side, she needs BEP. And they're both stupid to not realize that.
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Post by Linnethia Monique on Jun 1, 2017 13:24:05 GMT -5
Officially out of BEP this go-round.
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Post by Ling-Ling on Jun 1, 2017 13:51:55 GMT -5
And will.i.am said that Nicole Scherzinger is on the new album, but he wouldn't mention specifics of her involvement. I swear to God if she replaces Fergie, I will die. That woman has a 1000 f**king lives.
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Post by dbhmr on Jun 1, 2017 14:16:14 GMT -5
Pulse's obsession with Fergie is like that of Nelly Furtado--each had these big of-the-moment successes with a pop album and it has paid them astounding dividends on here in a way that is not echoed in reality.
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