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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 14:49:00 GMT -5
Jason I don't know why you treat this game so differently. There are only five of us but we still have plenty of time to talk, and 50% are scum (not counting yourself) so it shouldn't be too hard to find one to lynch based on actual proof.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 15:19:44 GMT -5
The reason why I said that I thought Az and Countryrocks were suspicious was mostly because I saw them associating themselves with one another by having similar suspicions. In this sort of game, you really shouldn't be going off of what other people are saying since finding all the evidence you can get is the best for the town getting the most information, so sharing each other's suspicions and aligning yourselves with one another just feels scummy to me. I only chose countryrocks over Az because Az has been more active, so if it turns out that countryrocks is town, then we at least kept the active Az. Then again, countryrocks's analysis is very useful, so either one is a good target, I believe.
I don't really have any scum vibes from Jason at the moment other than his coming in and leaving a vote, but since he came in afterwards with actual analysis, my suspicion on him dwindled. At the moment, I don't really have much of a read on Codex since he tried to distance himself from Az, yet he also put a vote on Az, which is not a good scum move since it only takes 3 votes to lynch.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 17:16:32 GMT -5
Day 1 Begins
Deadline has been set for 05.30.13 11:59AM EST.
It takes 3/5 votes to lynch!
Day 1: Vote Count 5 Az: Codex Countryrocks: Jason, Nightfire Codex: Countryrocks Nightfire: Az
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Post by JCMF3 on May 29, 2013 9:36:41 GMT -5
Jason I don't know why you treat this game so differently. There are only five of us but we still have plenty of time to talk, and 50% are scum (not counting yourself) so it shouldn't be too hard to find one to lynch based on actual proof. I think there are legitimate aspects of this game that should be treated slightly differently than past Mafia games in which I participated. But, at the same time, Day 1 always seems like a 'crapshoot' in terms of finding scum. Here, the odds are improved because of the small size of the game but a mistake is also more costly. I still cannot get a good read on Night/Hellfire - so it's either way for me. I am always curious about the '(more) active vs inactive player' logic for this type of game, though.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 9:44:13 GMT -5
The condescension... excuse me if I find it a little bit insulting that you look down on me for trying. As for my 'doing literally nothing'? Nice brush-off, you keep coming at me for 'being a bad player' or the like but the way you're glossing over things just irks me. I acknowledged that some of my initial thoughts were stating the obvious. I also acknowledged I had a bad logic/attention fail and you jumped on me for it with some black-and-white interpretation that I MUST have just f**ked up as scum, then you seemed to be trying to get me to roleclaim a role that's clearly not in the game. It seems like you've done nothing but goad me as if you think I'm gonna trip up in some way and drop a scumtell. If you're REALLY town then you need to not be so single-minded. Also this might be stupid but for me this makes me think Az is a townie. He seemed legit offended that I belittled (?) his gaming skills, which would imply that he was actually trying. Meaning he's probably town? So Countryrocks/Jason are my two remaining suspects, but I can't rule out Nightfire either.
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Post by LBTrocks on May 29, 2013 11:25:04 GMT -5
The condescension... excuse me if I find it a little bit insulting that you look down on me for trying. As for my 'doing literally nothing'? Nice brush-off, you keep coming at me for 'being a bad player' or the like but the way you're glossing over things just irks me. I acknowledged that some of my initial thoughts were stating the obvious. I also acknowledged I had a bad logic/attention fail and you jumped on me for it with some black-and-white interpretation that I MUST have just f**ked up as scum, then you seemed to be trying to get me to roleclaim a role that's clearly not in the game. It seems like you've done nothing but goad me as if you think I'm gonna trip up in some way and drop a scumtell. If you're REALLY town then you need to not be so single-minded. Also this might be stupid but for me this makes me think Az is a townie. He seemed legit offended that I belittled (?) his gaming skills, which would imply that he was actually trying. Meaning he's probably town? So Countryrocks/Jason are my two remaining suspects, but I can't rule out Nightfire either. Isn’t it funny how all of a sudden you’re thinking AZ is town? Something just doesn’t seem right about this whole thing. You’re all over the map, Codex. You’re first 100% certain that AZ and I are scum. You and Nightfire believe that AZ and I are suspicious because we seem to be following the same line of thinking. And then you make this post. This is making me think that you and AZ actually might be teammates, and all of your bickering was staged to throw people off. I think it’s still possible that you and Nightfire are teammates, but your sudden change of heart as far as AZ is concerned alarms me.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 11:34:46 GMT -5
Oooooooooor it could be that I was magnifying everything in the beginning to get conversation going, and I'm actually thinking realistically now? I just reread the thread and noticed that about his post. Changing opinions from new information is not a scum move, especially on Day 1.
However the fact that you've been L-1 for like 3 days so far with no scum lynch? Either you're a townie with 2 scum votes on you, or scum yourself.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 11:38:05 GMT -5
scum hammer*
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 11:39:54 GMT -5
ok screw it
vote: countryrocks
*fingers crossed*
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 11:42:47 GMT -5
I have a feeling he's mafia and if he is, then you guys will know that I'm a townie. And then the next lynch should be super easy.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 11:54:15 GMT -5
Day 1 Begins
Deadline has been set for 05.30.13 11:59AM EST.
It takes 3/5 votes to lynch!
Day 1: Vote Count 6 Countryrocks: Jason, Nightfire, Codex Codex: Countryrocks Nightfire: Az
Countryrocks, Mafia Goon is lynched.
Day 2 Begins
Deadline has been set for 06.02.13 11:59AM EST.
It takes 3/4 votes to lynch!
Day 2: Vote Count 0 Not Voting: Jason, Nightfire, Codex, Az
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 11:59:53 GMT -5
YES. suck it bitches. Ok so let's see what his death gives us... Since you guys know I'm town now (although I wouldn't be surprised if I get lynched like I always do when there's proof I'm town ) we know that there is one mafia amongst Az, Jason and Nightfire.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 29, 2013 12:02:34 GMT -5
Ahh, I THOUGHT it was interesting that he voted for Codex! I bet he was hoping for Codex to be lynched, with him thinking that Codex might've shot me instead since I was the one who was the most strongly at odds with him. Codex's actions have have seem scummy to me before, but Nightfire's and Countryrocks' actions in response to that got my attention to shift. Codex and I being so strongly at odds would be something the Mafia would have wanted to take advantage of, in hopes that our game would go the same way as the other one.
It's a little unfortunate that we only got the goon and not the godfather, and the game is still going.
I'm going to Vote: Jason because Nightfire said he thought both myself and Countryrocks were scum, and if Countryrocks were his teammate he'd have voted me instead.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 29, 2013 12:03:42 GMT -5
URGH TYPOS *Codex's actions have seemed scummy
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 12:07:59 GMT -5
That makes sense, if you were mafia he probably wouldn't haved tried to get me lynched, as he knew I'd probably shoot you. However, the fact that both Jason/Nightfire were voting for countryrocks unlike you... but then again they probably didn't think I was going to hammer him so lol I don't know how much we can use that against you.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 12:16:39 GMT -5
- Countryrocks jumped quick on Codex after Az. This would come across as a bit scummy in a normal game, but in this brief game, it wouldn't be so smart I think. I highly doubt Az and countryrocks are both scum - but I cannot rule out either one. Defending countryrocks when he did something actually scummy (jumping on a bandwagon against me with Az) Vote: Jason (for now)
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Post by JCMF3 on May 29, 2013 12:35:03 GMT -5
Defending countryrocks? I see no defense of him in what I said.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 12:45:39 GMT -5
LMFAO Yassss @ me being right! Az still didn't vote for countryrocks, which is kind of suspicious because I also said that they seemed to be on the same team together, but I can't rule out Jason since I don't know if he expected countryrocks to die. I don't think Codex is scum since he hammered countryrocks when it seemed like Az wouldn't, but you never know. I'm not sure if Az or Jason is scum, but I truly believe one or the other is. Since we have some lee-way here, even if we lynch one and are wrong, the vengeful can kill the other person to (hopefully) bring home a win for the town.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 12:47:14 GMT -5
Defending countryrocks? I see no defense of him in what I said. You said that what he did could be considered scummy in a normal game, but since this is a small game, doing what he did wouldn't be a smart mafia tactic, therefore it's not scummy. That seems defensive to me.
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Post by JCMF3 on May 29, 2013 12:47:32 GMT -5
I'm going to Vote: Jason because Nightfire said he thought both myself and Countryrocks were scum, and if Countryrocks were his teammate he'd have voted me instead. Wouldn't this logic also apply to me? That's curious. Vote: Az since he is trying to suspiciously lead a lynch against me with this flawed logic.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 12:47:37 GMT -5
I'm going to Vote: Jason because Nightfire said he thought both myself and Countryrocks were scum, and if Countryrocks were his teammate he'd have voted me instead. Ugh, that actually makes sense where I'm starting to believe he's scum more than you are, but it's also possible that you're looking for an excuse to get Jason killed off by using whatever you can find to pass off as evidence. Not saying that's what you're doing, but it is possible.
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Post by JCMF3 on May 29, 2013 12:49:37 GMT -5
Defending countryrocks? I see no defense of him in what I said. You said that what he did could be considered scummy in a normal game, but since this is a small game, doing what he did wouldn't be a smart mafia tactic, therefore it's not scummy. That seems defensive to me. No, I said it wouldn't be smart. Not a smart move does not equate to the person not being scum or that the action wouldn't be taken by a scum member. Major flaw.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 12:52:35 GMT -5
I'm going to Vote: Jason because Nightfire said he thought both myself and Countryrocks were scum, and if Countryrocks were his teammate he'd have voted me instead. Ugh, that actually makes sense where I'm starting to believe he's scum more than you are, but it's also possible that you're looking for an excuse to get Jason killed off by using whatever you can find to pass off as evidence. Not saying that's what you're doing, but it is possible. um what are you talking about. In the post you quoted from Az, all he said is why he thinks you aren't mafia... He voted for Jason because he crossed me out for hammering, and crossed you out from what he wrote, leaving Jason as the only suspsect. He said nothing that could have been of information to you that would have made you think Jason is scum, since you know (if) you are a townie. ok this is incredibly suspicious, I think you just agreed with Az without even reading what he wrote.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 12:55:35 GMT -5
You said that what he did could be considered scummy in a normal game, but since this is a small game, doing what he did wouldn't be a smart mafia tactic, therefore it's not scummy. That seems defensive to me. No, I said it wouldn't be smart. Not a smart move does not equate to the person not being scum or that the action wouldn't be taken by a scum member. Major flaw. Not a smart move = something the mafia wouldn't want to do... I never said you said he wasn't scum or that a scum member wouldn't do that action, but you did imply that the action he did isn't "scummy", while other people were saying it was (or said it later and you predicted they will since you noticed how scummy it seemed).
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 12:59:25 GMT -5
Ugh, that actually makes sense where I'm starting to believe he's scum more than you are, but it's also possible that you're looking for an excuse to get Jason killed off by using whatever you can find to pass off as evidence. Not saying that's what you're doing, but it is possible. um what are you talking about. In the post you quoted from Az, all he said is why he thinks you aren't mafia... He voted for Jason because he crossed me out for hammering, and crossed you out from what he wrote, leaving Jason as the only suspsect. He said nothing that could have been of information to you that would have made you think Jason is scum, since you know (if) you are a townie. ok this is incredibly suspicious, I think you just agreed with Az without even reading what he wrote. No, I'm saying that it makes sense. I read it. I don't believe you're scum, so it was between Jason and Az. Az made a good point about me voting for countryrocks rather than himself, and he chose to move his suspicion over to Jason. If he were scum, I would imagine that he would be doing everything he could to prove my claims about him aligning himself with countryrocks wrong, but he instead chose to actually focus on the game and what's there, which is why I am now doubting that he and countryrocks were on a team together.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:01:29 GMT -5
REGARDLESS of that, there's only one scum left. lmao. So Az and I can't both be scum at the same time, so why would I automatically agree with him since that would be a working tactic only if we were both scum?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:05:13 GMT -5
Hmmm ok. BTW I just noticed we need all three townies to vote for the scum member. We have a 1/3 to hit mafia, and if we don't then the shooter has a 1/2 change to hit mafia. So just based on luck we have a 66% chance to miss mafia, and a 50% change to miss after that => 33% chance to miss mafia and 66% to win. I hope we can do it
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:06:46 GMT -5
REGARDLESS of that, there's only one scum left. lmao. So Az and I can't both be scum at the same time, so why would I automatically agree with him since that would be a working tactic only if we were both scum? I was suspecting that you just agreed with him to try to take a stance on something, making you seem like a townie, but since you're mafia you don't really care what he said since you already know everyone's roles so you didn't read the whole thing, just "I vote for Jason because".
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:07:41 GMT -5
Hmmm ok. BTW I just noticed we need all three townies to vote for the scum member. We have a 1/3 to hit mafia, and if we don't then the shooter has a 1/2 change to hit mafia. So just based on luck we have a 66% chance to miss mafia, and a 50% change to miss after that => 33% chance to miss mafia and 66% to win. I hope we can do it I'm really thinking it's Jason right now. I think Az would have just thrown countryrocks under the bus since I think he's in it to win it at all costs, and spilling the blood of his bretheren would be like nothing to him. I'm thinking I should just hammer him now, and if he's town, he can come back and kill Az (or you if you're being sneaky and tricking us all). Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:12:03 GMT -5
Hmmm ok. BTW I just noticed we need all three townies to vote for the scum member. We have a 1/3 to hit mafia, and if we don't then the shooter has a 1/2 change to hit mafia. So just based on luck we have a 66% chance to miss mafia, and a 50% change to miss after that => 33% chance to miss mafia and 66% to win. I hope we can do it I'm really thinking it's Jason right now. I think Az would have just thrown countryrocks under the bus since I think he's in it to win it at all costs, and spilling the blood of his bretheren would be like nothing to him. I'm thinking I should just hammer him now, and if he's town, he can come back and kill Az (or you if you're being sneaky and tricking us all). Thoughts? that is an incredibly mafia thing to say lol. when I hammered countryrocks that was a badish town move but it worked out since he was scum. if you're really town and you hammer Jason, there's a 50% chance he's town and if he is, he'll kill you I'm sure. The fact that you're so willing to kill him and potentially have him come back to kill Az (not even mentioning yourself)... interesting to say the least.
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