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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:18:33 GMT -5
I just think that he's a good target. If I were mafia, he'd already be dead right now. The only reason I'm waiting to hammer is to get input from the rest of you since I'm getting the feeling that he's scum, but I'm trying not to be reckless with my hammer. However, your last several posts on this page have given me pause, Codex, so I'm not going to hammer Jason since you are coming back up on my radar. Why so accusational? There's several pieces of information that point to Jason, and you yourself have your vote on him. It seems like you're trying to set Jason up so that if/when he's killed, he'll either come back and kill Az or me rather than you, which is a good move if you're trying to plan ahead. Plus, you hammered countryrocks kind of out of nowhere. Maybe you wanted to beat Az to the punch?
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:25:04 GMT -5
1. I'm evaluating everyone. You're my other main suspect still beside Jason. I just have my vote on him since at the time he seemed more suspicious.
2. If you were scum you would not have hammered him since there's a 99% chance he would shoot you for hammering out of nowhere. What you're doing now is exactly what the scum would do, try to make your hammer "legit" so Jason will potentially shoot me or Az instead of you.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:27:12 GMT -5
Why would I hammer my teammate out of nowhere on D1 when Az wasn't giving any signs of hammering him? And I'm not even using the fact that he didn't vote for countryrocks against him,
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:30:24 GMT -5
Day 2 Begins
Deadline has been set for 06.02.13 11:59AM EST.
It takes 3/4 votes to lynch!
Day 2: Vote Count 1 Jason: Az, Codex Az: Jason Not Voting: Nightfire
#Mod: Please note that vengeful shots only occur on Day 1. In the event of a mislynch the game simply proceeds to Day 3 with 2/3 votes required for a lynch.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:31:44 GMT -5
Oh then jk i'm stupid
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:32:10 GMT -5
Wait, how did I forget that? It says that very clearly in the rules...
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:32:43 GMT -5
AND in my PM lmfao
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:35:48 GMT -5
oops LMAO
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:37:15 GMT -5
well ok say you lynch Jason and he's town.
That would leave me you and Az. You and Az would both know that the other is mafia, therefore putting votes on eachother. Leaving me to decide who to kill....hm.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:38:20 GMT -5
well ok say you lynch Jason and he's town. That would leave me you and Az. You and Az would both know that the other is mafia, therefore putting votes on eachother. Leaving me to decide who to kill....hm. I already said you're not off the hook just yeti
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:39:10 GMT -5
well if you want the LVP award then be my guest and vote me
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2013 13:40:10 GMT -5
*yet
Go fuck yourself, SwiftKey
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Post by Az Paynter on May 29, 2013 14:38:42 GMT -5
I know I'm Town, and at this point I'm inclined to believe Codex is. Which means it's either Nightfire or Jason by process of elimination. #CaptainObvious
I don't get what Jason thought was so flawed about my logic. Nightfire said he believed both myself and Countryrocks to be scum; if he were Countryrocks' partner, then he would have voted me instead and tried to drum up some logic about how I was the more suspicious of the two. Nightfire not wavering from Countryrocks is what makes me feel he's our third Town. Right now I believe Codex, which means that Jason is the only one left, and by further process of elimination that makes him the Godfather.
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Post by JCMF3 on May 29, 2013 14:42:10 GMT -5
Nightfire said he believed both myself and Countryrocks to be scum; if he were Countryrocks' partner, then he would have voted me instead and tried to drum up some logic about how I was the more suspicious of the two. Nightfire not wavering from Countryrocks is what makes me feel he's our third Town. You could replace Nightfire with Jason above and the story would still be basically true. That's my point.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 29, 2013 14:45:29 GMT -5
Where did you say you thought we could both be scum? I definitely recall Nightfire saying so.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 29, 2013 14:48:42 GMT -5
Okay, I looked back on page 3; you said it could be either me OR Countryrocks, and now it seems like you too were claiming you considered us both to be? You'd even said that you felt I was Town because of my clash with Codex. That, coupled with what you're now saying, doesn't add up to me, so for the moment I'm unwilling to shift my vote from you.
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Post by JCMF3 on May 29, 2013 15:23:11 GMT -5
I considered both of you were scum. I then deduced that it was less likely that you were scum and hence kept my vote on countryrocks.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 30, 2013 7:49:30 GMT -5
I find it curious that nothing's happened for 16 hours. What are you waiting for Nightfire, or are you afraid to hammer because YOU'RE the Godfather, and hammering Jason would have you quick-lynched once Jason flips Town?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 7:59:28 GMT -5
I find it curious that nothing's happened for 16 hours. What are you waiting for Nightfire, or are you afraid to hammer because YOU'RE the Godfather, and hammering Jason would have you quick-lynched once Jason flips Town? At&t shut down our Internet until they can send out a technician to fix the line and upgrade, so I haven't had the ability to go back and read through everything like i know need to
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 13:35:59 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 13:47:44 GMT -5
Okay, just read through Jason's posts. I realized that the only person he really found suspicious was you, Codex. He defended countryrocks and kind of Az, and he was thrown off by me completely. However, he kept his vote on Countryrocks the whole entire time, which I find to be really strange. Not saying it's enough to vote for, but still. What confused me is that while he did say that he had his own suspicions on countryrocks, he never really said what they were, but he asked others for more information as to why we were voting for him as well as asking countryrocks to come and defend himself. All the while, he never took his vote off, which, to me, is kind of scummy.
Let me read through both Codex's and Az's posts to try to get a read on them.
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Post by JCMF3 on May 30, 2013 13:54:44 GMT -5
Okay, just read through Jason's posts. I realized that the only person he really found suspicious was you, Codex. He defended countryrocks and kind of Az, and he was thrown off by me completely. However, he kept his vote on Countryrocks the whole entire time, which I find to be really strange. My original vote for countryrocks was RVS. That is true. Thereafter, I found countryrocks jumping on Codex suspicious and bandwagoning. I said, at the time, that he and Az were likely not both scum and then felt less sure about Az. Hence, I kept my vote on countryrocks. Plus, I think at the time Codex was at L-1, and voting for him would have been a huge risk (as Codex has mentioned, I have been really thinking hard about moves in this game and playing it differently than other games). I guess I don't see what is 'scummy' about keeping my vote on someone that I thought was scum in my analysis (and turned out to be).
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 14:10:55 GMT -5
if someone gets a prod we're lynching them. be active! Very un-scummy on Codex's part, imo. What scum would be stupid enough to say this out loud in the general thread when there's literally only 5 players playing. Yeah, it'd be a dead giveaway if two people just jumped in with lynch votes on either Nightfire or Jason. Not sure about this part. He could be using some random people (most likely), or he could be talking about one known-scum and one townie. But wait, lmao, he can't be on a team with either jason or I AND codex since there's only two scum, so that proves my theory wrong. Unless Xiivi is lying; I wouldn't put it past him. I mean look at it this way: Codex votes NightfireAz votes JasonAlready we know that at least one of these four people is scum. We know this because it's 3x Town versus 2x Scum. So, assuming all three Town players are part of this four (Codex/Nightfire/Az/Jason) then the other one is Scum. Now, this isn't the most useful logic since all it tells us is that scum is among us (which we knew already), and it says nothing about who is actually scum. Thank you, Captain Obvious. lmfao My biggest evidence against Codex is that he asked Az if he was a vanilla townie... why? If he had checked his PM or the first page, he would have obviously seen that there was no vanilla townie. I mean look at it this way: Codex votes NightfireAz votes JasonAlready we know that at least one of these four people is scum. We know this because it's 3x Town versus 2x Scum. So, assuming all three Town players are part of this four (Codex/Nightfire/Az/Jason) then the other one is Scum. Now, this isn't the most useful logic since all it tells us is that scum is among us (which we knew already), and it says nothing about who is actually scum. Ok so I'm gonna guess that countryrocks is scum since you're obviously scum who noticed that the ratio of scum members amongst these four (1/4 = 25%) is less than the overall (2/5 = 40%). Just like Cynthia last game... Vote: Azor Countryrocks. This is another clue. Countryrocks wasn't even mentioned in that post, yet he's quick to say that him and Az are on the same team. It looks like he's immediately trying to force an association between Az and Countryrocks without there really being anyone. With this, Codex is able to both look innocent and helpful (pushing for a scum lynch of countryrocks). Az was being very conservative with his votes on everyone, which leads me to believe he's not actually scum. There seems to be sort of a rivalry going on between Countryrocks and Codex on page 3, and I'm not sure if it's real or staged. As I re-read, Codex seems pretty scummy to me, but page 3 is really throwing me off. Also, since I was at L-1 and I know I'm town, Nightfire siding with me instead of you/Az gives me the impression that he's not mafia. Meaning 2 of you, Az and Jason are likely scum. Codex saying this after his whole thing of Az/countryrocks is weird. Why would he put so much effort into that and then just ditch it? Idk Buuut then on page 4, Countryrocks goes AFTER Codex while also defending Az. Ugh. He's too good of a player, and he keeps throwing me off. What I HAVE noticed, however, is that he doesn't even really come into contact with Jason like ever, which is pretty scummy. I would like some defenses from Codex and Az Paynter for these new findings, and I would also like thoughts from JCMF3 about Codex and Az. I'm not dropping the hammer or putting out a vote just yet since people can hammer too easily. I also recommend that you all re-read page 4 after countryrocks's kill since I'm not really sure what to take from everyone's reactions - whether some were too enthusiastic, didn't react enough, or brought too much "ohh dang we didn't lynch the godfather."
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 14:44:13 GMT -5
yeah I said later that I misread it. I thought he was telling us to focus on those 4 ppl since we knew one of them is scum. That seemed suspicious because I felt he was doing that to take away attention from countryrocks (the 5th person), which hinted at them being the team. but them i retead later and turns out he was just playing captain obvious so that theory went down the drain lmao.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 14:47:30 GMT -5
what? I said since i think youre town, the mafia is 2 of Az, country and Jason. I didn't ditch my suspicion of them, I just expanded with Jason.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 14:49:54 GMT -5
Az is scummy for not coming in contact with Jason? Why? they can't both be mafia, therefore... I don't see the connection.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 14:52:20 GMT -5
I was hoping he'd forget this is vengeful mafia and claim vanilla, lmao. I would've been a hero if it worked, but Az has gotten more careful since Christmas Mafia.
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Post by Az Paynter on May 30, 2013 18:01:46 GMT -5
LOL yes, after observing Platinum Mafia I'm trying to pick up some of the things I've learned from that game. Whether I've done that WELL is anybody's guess (and we'll find out once the game's over and we can access the Green Room to see Xiivi's bitching).
Codex, when Nightfire was talking about zero association with Countryrocks, I believe he was talking about Jason. There was an association between me and Countryrocks when he voted against you, and I happened to be voting against you at the time. But Countryrocks didn't defend me in any way, he just said 'oh there's drama here' and threw a vote down.
I know for a fact (given I know my alignment) that the Godfather voted out his own teammate to appear Town, probably to make me look scummy since I was the one person who didn't vote to lynch Countryrocks, and the Godfather obviously knew Countryrocks would flip scum. The assumption would be that his teammate would be the only one not voting, but I believe the Godfather's on the ropes because that hasn't worked out so well since I'm not the one at L-1.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 18:50:13 GMT -5
Since I'm Jason is one of my top suspects, and I know we have two shots at this, I think I'm going to hammer. Would you guys be okay with this, Az Paynter and Codex?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2013 18:54:11 GMT -5
Ugh, screw it. @xiivi Vote: Jason
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