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Post by Perp on Aug 1, 2005 15:28:52 GMT -5
In it's 18th week, Sugarland's single today had its largest one-day spin increase on the daily R&R by gaining 142, and the audience jumped by 1.369 million (just barely below their largest largest one-day audience increase of 1.4 million). Meanwhile Faith's chart progress was flat in comparison. Her spins were actually down a handful from Sunday, and she only gained 214,000, leaving her trailing Sugarland by 1.3 million. Her gains on Sunday were also small.
Toby had a good day, stopping his slow declines of the last few days by abruptly gaining 900,000 overnight, which was enough to push his audience peak to a new high of 49.4 million.
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Post by northerncountry on Aug 1, 2005 15:47:15 GMT -5
Toby's gain was most likely due to the fact that his song was played twice on the ACC countdown show as it was his 2nd week at #1, so it was the first time that his song was played at the top of the show and then again at the end.
It will be interesting to see if Sugarland can continue with the momentum this week. It might be their best shot at getting 1 week in at #1.
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Post by Perp on Aug 1, 2005 15:54:27 GMT -5
Thanks northerncountry for the Toby info! Yeah, this is going to be an interesting week for Sugarland. It appears they were saving something for a big final push, but did they wait too long? With Faith's CD coming out tomorrow, I would expect to see her single to step it up a notch, too.
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Post by drock89 on Aug 1, 2005 17:59:56 GMT -5
Looks like Luke is pushing another one to #1. You can't seriously tell me that, on the eve of the album release, a Top 3 song that's been hot from the get-go can start to slip like this. Come on! In any case, this song is much better than 'Baby Girl' and I do (or did) hope that they would go #1, I was just hoping for a legitimate war.
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Post by Jim King on Aug 1, 2005 18:33:21 GMT -5
It's so sad that we're talking about who is paying what to whom to get their song to number one.
Maybe they ought to just come clean on the charts and list payola$ right next to audience, impressions, and spins for the week.
~ Jim
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Post by Perp on Aug 1, 2005 18:53:57 GMT -5
I wasn't implying there's anything underhanded going on, just thought it was interesting to see such a BIG jump out of nowhere so late in the game. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but who is Luke?
I like Jim's idea. *laugh*
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Post by dcowboy77 on Aug 1, 2005 19:46:34 GMT -5
I wasn't implying there's anything underhanded going on, just thought it was interesting to see such a BIG jump out of nowhere so late in the game. Sorry if this is a dumb question, but who is Luke? I like Jim's idea. *laugh* Think hes talking about luke lewis...big honcho at sugarlands label...guess hes implying lukes pushing stations to play them to #1.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 1, 2005 20:09:05 GMT -5
Ya....he thinks though that if Shania doesn't get #1, that everyone else is "paying" for their song to get #1.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2005 20:22:38 GMT -5
Anything to get TK off #1 and keep FH away from #1 is fine with me. I like this Sugarland song but I do think country radio is sounding more and more like a broken record each week.
I'm also planning a road trip soon and will die, if I forget my CD's for sure. I forgot them last year and made it too far down the road to return and get them so I stopped at a Wal-Mart and bought some that I didn't have yet.
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Post by drock89 on Aug 1, 2005 21:01:28 GMT -5
Ya....he thinks though that if Shania doesn't get #1, that everyone else is "paying" for their song to get #1. Yep! :) And besides the fact that he takes great pride in paying for Reba to get to #1, these strange gains when the song looked to be slipping last week, would lead me to believe he has absolutely no problem doing it again.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Aug 1, 2005 22:01:43 GMT -5
Look at how long Reba had w/o a #1 and look at how new Sugarland are. Give me a break.
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Post by drock89 on Aug 1, 2005 22:03:39 GMT -5
Point? Have you checked out the payola thread here? How much of a boost would it be to a group already on the verge of breaking it huge than to score a #1?
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Post by mbgriffith1 on Aug 1, 2005 23:18:32 GMT -5
Would you all please cut the payola crap for this group? This group is succeeding because they are very talented and people identify with their music. They write, sing, and play very well and I'm tired of everyone accusing everyone they don't like of payola. Just because a song rises does not mean its because of payola. If the labels wanted to use payola for Sugarland, they would have taken longer than 42 weeks to get Sugarland to #2 for Baby Girl and they wouldn't have waited so long to start promoting SheDaisy (in the other thread, people are accusing them of a payola because OH MY GOD!! they have commercials advertising the album now..... give me a break!!!!!). We need to have a new rule that payola should only be brought up when it can be proven.
That's my two cents. Hope you agree.
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Post by drock89 on Aug 1, 2005 23:28:28 GMT -5
They are very very talented, please don't get me wrong. To answer your question, the best way to tell is when it falls. If it was payola, as soon as the play stops, the song will plummet and hit rocks fast, -1000 plays in a week.
And about not paying for Baby Girl. Put yourself here: you are the head of a label and you have raved and raved about this new group. You break them with a huge single, but it doesn't hit #1. The album opens good, surges back, they are on the road. The next single, just as big, now: does it look better to see them go up to #2 again without going #1? Of course not. And Lewis has his bottom dollar set on these three. His history speaks against him. They have spent on Reba and Terri (UMG) that we know of.
Edit: SHeDAISY has nothing to do with Sugarland, they are on two completely different labels (Daisy- Lyric Street, Sugar-Mercury/UMG) ;)
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Post by Perp on Aug 1, 2005 23:57:23 GMT -5
That's my two cents. Hope you agree. I do! It wasnt my intention of bringing any payola into Sugarland's topic. I just thought the big one day gain was noteworthy because it jumped out at me on my graphs, nothing more. The jump could be due to syndicated spins someplace, for all I know. And thanks for agreeing that SHeDAISY's TV commercials don't have anything to do with payola.
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Post by Jim King on Aug 2, 2005 0:08:43 GMT -5
We need to have a new rule that payola should only be brought up when it can be proven. I was just trying to be funny with my payola$ suggestion. I guess I need to add a smiley when I do that. ~ Jim
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Post by Topay on Aug 2, 2005 7:05:30 GMT -5
That's my two cents. Hope you agree. I do! It wasnt my intention of bringing any payola into Sugarland's topic The jump could be due to syndicated spins someplace, for all I know. Well, they were on Country Countdown USA this past weekend, where they could have very easily given the song an extra spin (for example, Hottest Song of the Week) or two (perhaps a "special performance" of the song in the 2nd hour). If American Country Countdown's extra spin can give Toby a significant boost (as suggested in his thread), I don't see why country radio's 2nd most popular countdown show can't impact the charts any.
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Post by Marv on Aug 28, 2005 22:13:33 GMT -5
It has already passed Toby's 'AGAIOW' in year-to-date spins (in spite of TK's multi-week stay at #1) and will undoubtedly join 'Baby Girl' in the year end top 10, and clinch the #1 new singles artist of the year award as well.
Congratulations!!!!
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 29, 2005 7:53:51 GMT -5
Thanks, good for Sugarland, they are a breath of fresh air and I wish them all the success in the world.
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Post by Marv on Aug 31, 2005 23:14:05 GMT -5
It's rather remarkable that relative newcomers such as Rascal Flatts and Sugarland will each have two singles in R&Rs year-end top 10.
Quite an accomplishment, isn't it?
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Post by jond7699 on Sept 1, 2005 7:36:42 GMT -5
Rascall Flats are not new but I am very happy for Sugarland. Hopefully this will help them get a Best New Artist nomination at the grammys this year
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 1, 2005 18:01:57 GMT -5
Rascall Flats are not new but I am very happy for Sugarland. Hopefully this will help them get a Best New Artist nomination at the grammys this year I couldn't have said it better myself.
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Post by Diablo Cody™ on Sept 6, 2005 10:50:34 GMT -5
WTF. I just looked at the country chart. How is this recurrent? It's not even below #20.
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Post by Marv on Sept 7, 2005 23:18:06 GMT -5
At R&R, songs that have lost spins in three straight weeks and are below #1 are moved to recurrent, as Toby Keith did this week, and Sugarland did last week.
Both songs are headed towards finishing in the year-end top 15, and 'Baby Girl' appears very likely to wind up in the year-end top 5 as well.
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