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Post by joey2002 on Oct 4, 2013 12:52:20 GMT -5
God I hope Zazie is right and this is a parody. He frequently is, so here's to hoping he's right again! :)
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Post by Zazie on Oct 4, 2013 13:33:10 GMT -5
God I hope Zazie is right and this is a parody. He frequently is, so here's to hoping he's right again! :) Joey, you've got me figured out. "Frequently right." That sounds perfect to me. Maybe I should make it my signature? More seriously, this song has more lyrics than most, so I'm not really sure yet what I think. I've only listened to the song four times. But there are plenty of humorous lyrics on Jerrod's Hung Jury album, and he's no stranger to the idea of making fun of songs. As long as it's a possible explanation, I'm going to keep listening with that interpretation in mind. But if it's wishful thinking, I'll have to back off.
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Post by samsager3 on Oct 4, 2013 14:03:46 GMT -5
I don't think this is a parody. I think it's an attempt to pattern his career after others that have found success. I think this will find him sucess with this,and I hope it goes to the top of the charts.
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Post by Zazie on Oct 5, 2013 10:17:31 GMT -5
I don't think this is a parody. I think it's an attempt to pattern his career after others that have found success. I think this will find him sucess with this,and I hope it goes to the top of the charts. You are probably right. And there's enough in this song so that (so far) I can root for it to do well. Whether I like this one or not, I definitely like Jerrod as a singer and a songwriter.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 5, 2013 12:32:42 GMT -5
I've listen to this 6 times now and still can't make out that second verse(not that Im super motivated to do so). That take your cup, fill it up, you can't raise it high enough line is my new least favorite part of the song.
Can't wait to hear this dreadful song follow Carrie's beautiful "Do You Hear What I Hear" during the Christmas season. Ha Ha(and by Ha Ha I mean Oh God).
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Post by Zazie on Oct 7, 2013 21:46:42 GMT -5
This song's up 11 positions on Billboard, and it gains more than a million in audience. Nice start, and surprising. Now I have to figure out if I can root for it.
I think I've got nearly all the words figured out, Sabre. I'll PM you with them when I'm more confident, assuming I hear the song some more.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 7, 2013 21:57:49 GMT -5
This song's up 11 positions on Billboard, and it gains more than a million in audience. Nice start, and surprising. Now I have to figure out if I can root for it. I think I've got nearly all the words figured out, Sabre. I'll PM you with them when I'm more confident, assuming I hear the song some more. Please Zazie, don't be lured to the dark side...
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 25, 2013 13:49:46 GMT -5
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 25, 2013 14:34:36 GMT -5
^ Oh man....We had gone almost three full weeks without talking about this dreadful song....Oh Well, all good things must come to an end...(Sigh)!
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 25, 2013 15:13:46 GMT -5
^ Oh man....We had gone almost three full weeks without talking about this dreadful song....Oh Well, all good things must come to an end...(Sigh)! Why do I get the feeling that people will soon be calling this the next 'worst song ever' now that Luke's song is on its way down...
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 25, 2013 15:30:21 GMT -5
^ Oh man....We had gone almost three full weeks without talking about this dreadful song....Oh Well, all good things must come to an end...(Sigh)! Why do I get the feeling that people will soon be calling this the next 'worst song ever' now that Luke's song is on its way down... I might Dislike this song more than Luke's. as bad as Luke's vocals were on his song, Jerrods vocals during the auto tune might be worse. The song is about a guy and his buddies walking into a bar and a girl is eyeballing one of them...So obviously that's something they can "Drink To All Night". Then a line in the second verse is "Do Ya wanna since? Baby Im just saying (If you can even understand Jerrod through the fast paced auto tune). And the fact the first lyric in the song is "Don'tcha... I actually looked that up on three different sites and they all said that was the correct spelling. Sorry Im so worked up over this tune, but this song gets me down right mad at the state of this genre I adore so much!
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 25, 2013 18:04:50 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling that people will soon be calling this the next 'worst song ever' now that Luke's song is on its way down... I might Dislike this song more than Luke's. as bad as Luke's vocals were on his song, Jerrods vocals during the auto tune might be worse. The song is about a guy and his buddies walking into a bar and a girl is eyeballing one of them...So obviously that's something they can "Drink To All Night". Then a line in the second verse is "Do Ya wanna since? Baby Im just saying (If you can even understand Jerrod through the fast paced auto tune). And the fact the first lyric in the song is "Don'tcha... I actually looked that up on three different sites and they all said that was the correct spelling. Sorry Im so worked up over this tune, but this song gets me down right mad at the state of this genre I adore so much! But the whole point of this song and many songs out there is the tempo and groove, not even what the lyrics are actually saying.
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Post by carriekins on Oct 25, 2013 18:19:59 GMT -5
I might Dislike this song more than Luke's. as bad as Luke's vocals were on his song, Jerrods vocals during the auto tune might be worse. The song is about a guy and his buddies walking into a bar and a girl is eyeballing one of them...So obviously that's something they can "Drink To All Night". Then a line in the second verse is "Do Ya wanna since? Baby Im just saying (If you can even understand Jerrod through the fast paced auto tune). And the fact the first lyric in the song is "Don'tcha... I actually looked that up on three different sites and they all said that was the correct spelling. Sorry Im so worked up over this tune, but this song gets me down right mad at the state of this genre I adore so much! But the whole point of this song and many songs out there is the tempo and groove, not even what the lyrics are actually saying. If the "whole point" of a song is the tempo and groove, then it's not country. Period.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 25, 2013 19:21:27 GMT -5
But the whole point of this song and many songs out there is the tempo and groove, not even what the lyrics are actually saying. If the "whole point" of a song is the tempo and groove, then it's not country. Period. Perhaps. But tell that to Western Swing bands, bluegrass bands, classic country bands who play 'ditties,' etc. Who are definitely about the way a song makes us FEEL, not what the songs are actually saying lyrically. As much as I LOVE lyrical songs, I have definitely morphed into a fan of songs that make me feel something, be it from the lyrics or the melody or "Groove".
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 25, 2013 19:22:19 GMT -5
Personally, I think dubstep should be the only genre built solely around tempo and groove.
Edit: nothing wrong with the the occasional ditty, what I don't like is song, after song, after song being a ditty.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 25, 2013 19:35:17 GMT -5
Look I love a good groove and the up tempo songs, if they are good. Thompson Squares "Evreything I Shouldn't Be Thinking About" had a great groove. The lyrics aren't exactly new or groundbreaking but the vocals and beat makes up for it. Writing songs would be so much easier if the whole point was the "Groove" and "How catchy it is". When I wrote my songs, the toughest part was trying to get the lyrics right. I didn't want to make them generic and tried to connect to somebody who would listen to it. If these lyrics in Jerrods and Luke's songs is all it takes to be successful they might as well re-name this genre. I know there are people who like or even love this song, Im quite aware of that, and I'm not saying don't like it cause I think it's awful. I'm just not convinced this belongs on radio cause its got a great beat to it. But unfortunately it does not matter what I think, it's what the masses do...Ive been to concerts at Darien Lake outside of Buffalo. When you see a concert there you can see how these songs get any traction and request to hear them more. I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority despite my factual analysis of these songs.
And my friends have accused me of being a "Hater"... Don't even get me started on that garbage.
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Post by Markus Meyer on Oct 25, 2013 20:25:13 GMT -5
That's the great thing about opinions.
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Post by kw9461 on Oct 25, 2013 21:55:15 GMT -5
^ Oh man....We had gone almost three full weeks without talking about this dreadful song....Oh Well, all good things must come to an end...(Sigh)! Why do I get the feeling that people will soon be calling this the next 'worst song ever' now that Luke's song is on its way down... I think that all depends on whether or not Tippin' Point or the Chase Rice song catch on. Both of those are even a step more god-awful than this.
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Post by rsmatto on Oct 28, 2013 16:44:20 GMT -5
Why do I get the feeling that people will soon be calling this the next 'worst song ever' now that Luke's song is on its way down... I think that all depends on whether or not Tippin' Point or the Chase Rice song catch on. Both of those are even a step more god-awful than this. Chase's song is now gonna be promoted by RPM entertainment to radio and Dallas' song will likely get radio airplay. Both get airplay on The Highway right now...
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Post by onebuffalo on Oct 31, 2013 10:28:22 GMT -5
Just for Zazie: Drink To That All Night debuts at #37 on the mongrel chart and debuts at #26 on digital songs.
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Post by Zazie on Oct 31, 2013 12:59:47 GMT -5
Just for Zazie: Drink To That All Night debuts at #37 on the mongrel chart and debuts at #26 on digital songs. I'm glad that somebody has my interests at heart. Meanwhile, the current song is stalling and threatening to fall short of the top 30 on the airplay chart. That would be a disaster for Jerrod's career at radio, so I hope it doesn't happen. Maybe the mongrel chart will rescue Drink To That. I'd be happier if he'd go back to the Hung Jury album and release Old School New Again, but there's no use living in a dream world. Drink To That has to do well enough so that Jonsolo, in late December, mentions Jerrod as a likely Whitburn top 400 entry in 2014. That's an obscure goal but I'm sticking with it. Anyone who can perform a song as terrific as What Do You Want needs to stick around and succeed on the charts, no matter how bad a song he later releases.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2013 17:00:11 GMT -5
Meanwhile, the current song is stalling and threatening to fall short of the top 30 on the airplay chart. That would be a disaster for Jerrod's career at radio, so I hope it doesn't happen. Maybe the mongrel chart will rescue Drink To That. I'd be happier if he'd go back to the Hung Jury album and release Old School New Again, but there's no use living in a dream world. Jerrod only needed 4 weeks to crack the top 40 on the Airplay chart, though. The bullet is +218 and this song got another 17 adds last week. I'd say it's still doing very well. I don't like it either and I can't believe that it's going to race past the peak position of "Only God Could Love You More", but it is what it is.
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Post by sabre14 on Oct 31, 2013 17:04:02 GMT -5
Meanwhile, the current song is stalling and threatening to fall short of the top 30 on the airplay chart. That would be a disaster for Jerrod's career at radio, so I hope it doesn't happen. Maybe the mongrel chart will rescue Drink To That. I'd be happier if he'd go back to the Hung Jury album and release Old School New Again, but there's no use living in a dream world. Jerrod only needed 4 weeks to crack the top 40 on the Airplay chart, though. The bullet is +218 and this song got another 17 adds last week. I'd say it's still doing very well. I don't like it either and I can't believe that it's going to race past the peak position of "Only God Could Love You More", but it is what it is. "It is what it is".... And that it is one horrific song!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 21, 2014 20:42:30 GMT -5
I expected this song to be really polarizing and to struggle as a result, but instead it started off hot and it's kept right on going. I assumed this one would have very high negative numbers on the call-out surveys we see in Billboard, but instead, this song is #7 overall on tonight's Bullseye Callout chart. That absolutely shocks me. I just cannot stand this one...lyrics are terrible, and somehow the production is even worse. There's really nothing country-sounding about this one, and yet apparently the vast majority of listeners really enjoy this. My tastes in country music are just getting further and further out of step from what country radio is playing...
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Post by Markus Meyer on Jan 21, 2014 20:44:15 GMT -5
This is more EDM than country. It's just dreadful, but I think it'll top the charts.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jan 21, 2014 21:54:29 GMT -5
I expected this song to be really polarizing and to struggle as a result, but instead it started off hot and it's kept right on going. I assumed this one would have very high negative numbers on the call-out surveys we see in Billboard, but instead, this song is #7 overall on tonight's Bullseye Callout chart. That absolutely shocks me. I just cannot stand this one...lyrics are terrible, and somehow the production is even worse. There's really nothing country-sounding about this one, and yet apparently the vast majority of listeners really enjoy this. My tastes in country music are just getting further and further out of step from what country radio is playing... For what it's worth, this song isn't faring anywhere near as well on the Radio Feedback chart, where it sits at #25 and has hovered around the 60% mark in positive reaction (which is mediocre). Still not terrible on that survey, which sometimes illustrates the polarizing nature of an artist or song (see: Taylor Swift and, typically, Hunter Hayes). In any event, whether Jerrod Niemann recorded and released this song as a joke, parody or a serious release, country radio's embrace of the song continues to send a pretty clear message about the path to airplay, at least for male artists looking to establish themselves on the format. It feels like an especially stark message to Jerrod after the experimentation (and commercial stiffing) of Free the Music. And so, the narrowing of the format continues, as does its journey away from country music...
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Post by LBTrocks on Jan 22, 2014 2:02:23 GMT -5
Look I love a good groove and the up tempo songs, if they are good. Thompson Squares "Evreything I Shouldn't Be Thinking About" had a great groove. The lyrics aren't exactly new or groundbreaking but the vocals and beat makes up for it. Writing songs would be so much easier if the whole point was the "Groove" and "How catchy it is". When I wrote my songs, the toughest part was trying to get the lyrics right. I didn't want to make them generic and tried to connect to somebody who would listen to it. If these lyrics in Jerrods and Luke's songs is all it takes to be successful they might as well re-name this genre. I know there are people who like or even love this song, Im quite aware of that, and I'm not saying don't like it cause I think it's awful. I'm just not convinced this belongs on radio cause its got a great beat to it. But unfortunately it does not matter what I think, it's what the masses do...Ive been to concerts at Darien Lake outside of Buffalo. When you see a concert there you can see how these songs get any traction and request to hear them more. I'm pretty sure I'm in the minority despite my factual analysis of these songs. And my friends have accused me of being a "Hater"... Don't even get me started on that garbage. That's really cool that you write songs! Anyway, for me, I love great lyrics as much as the next guy, but it's crucial that my ears also like what they're hearing in terms of melody and production. I can't get into a song with great lyrics if I dislike the melody, but I usually can get into a song with not so good (or sometimes downright bad) lyrics if I like the melody. I don't care for Bro-country lyrics at all, but I find the melody and production SO bad on most of it that it just further drives my overall dislike for it. Now, if the songs sounded better to me, it's likely that I'd be able to listen to and enjoy them. With that said, what I really love is when great lyrics and great melodies come together. There's nothing quite as moving than a song where that happens. As for this song, I still can't stand it. The verse is absolutely terrible! Even if it didn't have the auto-tune, it still would be. It's so wordy and rushed with extremely minimal melody. Plus, the lyrics (the one's that are actually audible) are really bad, which as we know is par for bro-country's course. Musically, the song improves in the chorus, but it's too little too late as far as I'm concerned and it certainly doesn't improve enough to erase the atrociousness of the verse. I have very little patience for auto-tune as it is, but when it comes to country music I pretty much have a zero tolerance policy for it.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jan 22, 2014 15:52:46 GMT -5
I write songs too. I'm not a great lyricist, but I try to say things in a decent way. I also compose in a score writer program, which I think allows me total control on structuring melodies and chords. It allows me to better figure out unusual chord patterns, melodic progressions, etc. and really make for an interesting composition.
Also, in my book, it isn't inherently bad. I liked it on "Stars on the Water", and to cite a couple non-country examples, "Believe" by Cher and "Some Nights" by fun. To me, it's no more egregious than a vocal filter or excessive reverb.
As for this song... I really, REALLY should hate this, but I don't.
I think it's because Jerrod is such a relaxed vocalist that the song doesn't sound overly aggressive and sleazy like "That's My Kind of Night". To me, the Auto-Tune is used sparingly and fittingly — it's used in a way that emphasizes the rhythm, and it doesn't completely cover up the timbre of his voice to the point that he just sounds like a robot. The production still sounds like actual instruments are being used, not a computerized, mechanical mess like most EDM or dubstep or dance-pop is. It's not TOO loud, but it has energy — and again, his laid-back tone seems to work with that energetic production instead of making it fall flat like, say, "Am I the Only One".
The lyrics, while nothing special, aren't nearly as cringeworthy as diamond-plated tailgates, mixtapes with Conway Twitty and T-Pain, sexy turned up to 10, pretty little asses, baby you a song, or chew tobacca chew tobacca chew tobacca spit.
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Post by sabre14 on Jan 22, 2014 16:10:03 GMT -5
^ I still despise this song and wish nothing but ill will on it in terms of chart success. But that was a very convincing analysis. I agree that "That's My Kind Of Night" is way more sleazy than Jerrods.
P.S: Congrats on your 6,000 post :)
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jan 22, 2014 16:41:35 GMT -5
^ Turns out #6000 was in the Video of the Day thread and I didn't notice it. Sweet.
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