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Post by drock89 on Jul 21, 2005 11:48:56 GMT -5
Alright I was thinking..what's up with the big acts not hitting the top?
1) Alan Jackson - No one can say he isn't country, and I think his material is better than ever. He hasn't had a #1 since 'Remember When', although several Top 10s and 5s. But his last single didn't hit the Top 10.
2) Reba - Another act that has a lot of hits under her belt. However, she hasn't hit the top since 'Somebody', which no one knows whether or not would have hit #1. Again, consistant songs that hit the Top 10 since then. But her lastest also peaked out of the Top 10.
3) Shania - I won't elaborate because she has few #1s for her sales but again, used to be a big hit maker. And since then, well..
4) George - I think everyone is shocked 'You'll Be There' didn't go #1. I know that he hasn't really lost his touch, but his radio star seems to have cooled. He has no #1s from 'Honkytonkville', although he came close and has other Top 10s and 5s.
All these artists have no problem on the albums chart, so why is it that radio seems to missing on their singles...??
Edit: spelling sorry..
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Post by KMCB on Jul 21, 2005 16:24:55 GMT -5
Alright I was thinking..what's up with the big acts not hitting the top? 1) Alan Jackson - No one can see he isn't country, Huh? I just don't get what you mean here...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2005 16:54:15 GMT -5
Alright I was thinking..what's up with the big acts not hitting the top? The problem is with country radio. Politics, favoritism, and money all factor into getting "hits" these days. 1) Alan Jackson - He is still another "automatic airplay" artist. It's just that he's not getting # 1 songs all of the time like he used to. I actually think that's a good thing. It gets annoying when you know[/B] a song is going to the top of the charts because of the artist that sings the song. Just look at Kenny, Tim, and others. "Automatic" chart toppers shouldn't be happening. Alan isn't being ignored by country radio. It's just that they have other "automatic" chart toppers right now. I am sure Alan will be back at # 1 soon. He's too much of an industry favorite to be just dumped by radio. 2) Reba - It is my personal opinion that the industry just dumped Reba for other favorites. Since Reba was a favorite, there have been "favorite" runs by Patty Loveless, Trisha Yearwood, and extremely long[/U] runs by Faith Hill and Martina. Now, there's Gretchen. Reba just went with the flow. She got her own sitcom, took a break from music, etc.. I do think though that her last "# 1 hit" is a big black mark on her career. She's a legend and her label had to BUY her a "hit." I don't know who looks worse though: Her label for doing it or the industry because they treated one of their legends so[/I] badly that something like that had to be done to get her a radio "hit." 3) Shania - Shania has never really been a radio favorite. She has 7 # 1 songs for her entire career. In that time, she's gotten an RIAA total of 47 million in the U.S.; 42 million if you take away 1/2 of the Double "Up!" certification. I honestly don't know if country radio will ever[/I] even give Shania a chance to have a hit again. At this point in time, it does not seem to matter much though. Even without the airplay, Shania still sells more than most of the favorites and non-favorites that country radio plays all of the time. Who knows how long that will last though... 4) George - My comments for George are the same ones I made about Alan at the top of this post.
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Post by drock89 on Jul 21, 2005 17:01:54 GMT -5
Sorry KMCB, I meant "say" not "see".. LOL
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2005 17:09:36 GMT -5
It is because of what I have said before.
These days, country radio is ruled by three things: Politics, favoritism (aka "automatic" airplay artists), and money.
That is why Terri Clark and others can have "# 1 hits" bought for them and not sell hardly any cds while people like Shania and other artists sell tons of cds but can't get hardly any airplay.
That is why some artists could pretty much burp the alphabet onto a tape and have it be a "# 1 hit" while others can't even get their songs "tested" on country radio - no matter how country or non-country their songs are.
There's no variety anymore. There's just Kenny, Tim, Faith, Rascal Flatts, Gretchen Wilson, Keith Urban, and George and Alan.
Throw in a couple Toby Keith and Martina songs and you've pretty much got the entire airplay roster right there for most of the country stations.
Country radio does not play what listeners want to hear. Requests mean pretty much nothing these days.
Country radio plays what they want to play, which usually ends up being the same few artists that I just listed.
Imo, having a "# 1 hit" at country radio means nothing these days.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Jul 21, 2005 18:19:57 GMT -5
All of those so-called superstars arent good I dont think. Reba lost her cool back in the 90s. The others have never had it, so maybe its being taken away from those that do, altough that doesnt totally explain why tim, kenny and faith have so much success. Faith does have a good voice, just not good songs and tim and kenny neither have voices imo.
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Post by Jim King on Jul 21, 2005 18:52:40 GMT -5
Two problems...
1. The most recent releases by the "big" acts you mention just haven't been that good.
2. Chart success is determined by record company executives and programmers of radio conglomerates who are motivated by money and politics and not by the quality or popularity of the songs.
~ Jim
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Post by Perp on Jul 21, 2005 19:35:24 GMT -5
It gets annoying when you know[/B] a song is going to the top of the charts because of the artist that sings the song. Just look at Kenny, Tim, and others. "Automatic" chart toppers shouldn't be happening. [/quote] Amen and ANOTHER Amen to that one! I've always wondered if fans of those kinds of artists even care about watching the chart closely anymore. It could get pretty boring watching your favorite slide all the way up without even breaking a sweat. At least if the artists falter once in awhile, it keeps things interesting for chart watchers. I don't mind seeing the big names talked about in this topic struggling some. Maybe they'll release BETTER SONGS next time, although I didn't think Strait's was bad so I'm surprised where it peaked. I think releasing "Texas" when his current single was STILL RISING didn't help. The big stations in Texas ate the new song up, but wouldn't that have cost him airplay for "You'll Be There"? Within about a week of Texas coming out, YBT peaked. Dumb move on his label's part I think. What was the rush with getting Texas out?
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Post by kyhomeg on Jul 21, 2005 20:58:03 GMT -5
Actually George has not released Texas, there is no news of a new release yet. Texas got airplay as a album cut. Usually a new album some of the songs will chart the first week or two as album cuts. Texas may have ran with the song, for obivious reason but it has not been officially released as his new single.
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Post by Jonsolo on Jul 21, 2005 21:09:57 GMT -5
Wow. Scary. Janet makes complete sense on this one. Texas did receive the overwhelming majority of its airplay from TX radio stations, but those same stations still gave You'll Be There about the maximum amount of spins per week that a Strait song tends to get from them. Texas did not harm YBT's chart run to #4 at all, and if it had never existed, it's doubtful that YBT would have even been able to get to #3, much less #1.
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Post by kyhomeg on Jul 21, 2005 21:11:07 GMT -5
As for Shania, no comment.
Alan's latest album to me is not up to the quality as his previous ones. I have heard some Alan fans say it sounds like he phone it in. There are some good songs on there but overall it is weak compared to Drive his last studio album. He is also suffering from a Greatest Hits jinx. Alot of times a artist next two studio albums will suffer in sales after a Greatest Hits album. The GH is selling more each week than his recent studio album.
He also may be going back to his pre Drive((9/11 song) situation. There was a few(3) albums before Drive that were not as big sellers for him and in fact none went over million in sales, he was in a rut, then you had his 9/11 song and that sparked his sales and radio play, so he may be going back to pre Drive.
Reba IMO best work was second half of 80's and first half of 90's. I really don't think she cares, she has so much going on, music is just a small part of her empire. If she wanted to devote all her energy to the music 100%, she could be right back on top IMO. I don't see that happening and why should she when she has so many other things going for her. By the way I love clothing line in Dillards. Classic but modern.
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Post by Jonsolo on Jul 21, 2005 21:34:18 GMT -5
Even more illustrative of the "fall" of superstars this year, is the list of the biggest songs of this year, when compared to last year. The most accurate list is American Country Countdown's top 50 list from 2004, and the probable list for this year.
In 2004, ACC's top eleven songs were
1. Live Like You Were Dying 2. I Love This Bar 3. Remember When 4. There Goes My Life 5. Suds In The Bucket 6. When The Sun Goes Down 7. You'll Think Of Me 8. American Soldier 9. Watch The Wind Blow By 10. Redneck Woman 11. Days Go By
So four artists (TM, TK, KU, KC) accounted for eight of the top eleven songs in 2004, and seven artists in all.
For this year's probable list, we have non-superstars Craig's Sunday, Blake's Beach, Sugarland's Baby, Gary's Radio, Brad's Tires, and Josh's Lose as six songs that should find their way into the top twelve or so. Rascal Flatts and possibly Urban (if Better Life takes off) are the only artists with a chance at having two songs in that same top twelve.
In addition, Toby had four songs in the 2004 top 50 (not counting Good Lookin'), George had three, AJ two, and Kenny three. That's four artists accounting for 12 songs of the 2004 top 50.
This year, those four artists, Toby with one (AGAIOW), George with one (YBT), AJ with one (MMC), and Kenny (assuming the quick flame-out by Keg and a lead single that doesn't peak before the last week of Nov) with two (TWWY & ABM), could account for only five songs total in 2005's top 50.
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Post by Perp on Jul 21, 2005 21:56:10 GMT -5
Actually George has not released Texas, there is no news of a new release yet. Texas got airplay as a album cut. Usually a new album some of the songs will chart the first week or two as album cuts. Texas may have ran with the song, for obivious reason but it has not been officially released as his new single. Thank you for clearing that up for me.
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Post by kyhomeg on Jul 21, 2005 22:15:47 GMT -5
How does Tim Mcgraw compared with that 2004 and 2005 list? Also if what you say is true how come Kenny and Tim may be the one's in the lead for Males Singles artist or Singles Artist overall.
Also if these are the most played songs that means they got a lot of radio airplay. I would include Darrel Worley into that Wwhy do you think that massive airplay didn't equals sales, These's artist may have the top songs but it did not generate the big sales, why is that?
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Post by drock89 on Jul 21, 2005 22:20:19 GMT -5
Because radio forces songs to become hits and they aren't always great songs and they don't make listeners want to run out and buy the album. Great example- If Tim would have released "Drugs or Jesus" first and not "Live Like.." I wouldn't have bought the album. So part of promotion is picking the right songs. Some of these "hits" just don't appeal enough to make the listener go get the album, bottom line.
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Post by kyhomeg on Jul 21, 2005 22:31:47 GMT -5
You may not have bought Tim's album but he has legion of fans that would of bought it because we know the quality of his work and that he gives us aalbums that we can play for years. He hasn't had 8 mulitpaltinum albums in a row for nothing.
As for DOJ that is your opinion, I think it is a great song, with a powerful message and I know people that aren't Tim fans that loved the song. Tim had a LIVE online chat on his site about a month and a half ago(he does that) where he answers questions. Someone asked him about this song, his comment was he doesn't judge a success of a song by how far it goes on the chart, and that is not the most important thing to him. He thought the song said something, and was a impact song for somebody out there. He said he was very proud of the song, and knew he was going to record it and release it one day the moment he first heard it.
I applaud him for sticking to that, it was not your typical radio friendly song.
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Post by drock89 on Jul 21, 2005 22:44:35 GMT -5
My point was that these hits aren't songs that appeal to make people buy the album--that's why you can have a major hit and then no sales..or the single is the only good song on the disc and word gets around lol
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Post by Marv on Jul 21, 2005 23:00:42 GMT -5
My two cents is that there are only a handful of artists whom I consider to be 'automatics', which means artists whose CDs I will buy immediately upon their release because I have faith in their product. My list would include Trace Adkins, Tim, Lee Ann Womack, AJ, B&D, King George and a few others.
Insofar as the chart performance of Gerorge's 'YBT', I wouldn't get too disturbed over the fact that only 'I Hate Everything', 'She'll Leave You With A Smile' and 'Living And Living Well' from his last three CDs have hit #1; 'Run', which is my favorite Strait song of the past 5 years, needed AJ's exceptional 'Where Were You?' to prevent it from spending a minimum of three weeks at #1.
While nobody's hotter than Kenny Chesney, the 25-54 women who drive the format absolutely LOVE him, so his singles are bound to streak up the charts, even if a song such as 'Keg In The Closet' ran out of steam after just ten weeks.
His country music product of the past five years has been anywhere from okay to exceptional, even if not up to what McGraw, AJ, B&D or Strait have produced over that same time period.
'Drugs Or Jesus' was Tim's first single since at least 1996 NOT to hit the top ten, so perhaps he was due. I did feel that there were other FAR stronger candidates for smash singles on his CD, with 'Blank Sheet Of Paper' easily topping my wish list. 'DOJ' was above all else, a VERY compelling song, which is what great country tunes have always been, whether you like the subject matter or not.
The same could also be said about Jo Dee Messina's recent #1 'My Give A Damn's Busted'; great title, great lyrics, VERY compelling, and a very good story song with timely reference to the pill-popping addicts that too many of us have become.
Insofar as AJ goes, I agree that his current CD isn't as good as 'Drive' or his 1996 masterpiece, 'Everything I Love', which include FIVE top 10 singles and three #1s. But along with Strait, he still epitomized traditional country music, and it's certainly nice to see Trace Adkins, Brad Paisley and promising newcomers such as Blaine Larsen add their own traditon-based country tunes to the country music landscape.
Reba would appear to be a mortal lock to finish among the top five female singles artist of the year, and in spite of her label's reprehensible spin-buying spree which pushed 'Somebody' to #1 @ BB, her current and previous singles are both good, if not in the category of Msd. Womack's stupendous new CD.
I've said this before, but it must be repeated that today's country PDs are being smothered and micromanaged to death; they are under VERY intense pressure from the clueless suits who are ruining format after format to put Wall Street's insatiable thirst for profits above the needs of their listeners, which makes for dull, safe and boring radio. Assiging one PD to be the PD of SEVERAL stations in a single market is a cost-cutting move of the worst possible kind.
Consequently too many PDs out there have fried many of the biggest singles of the past 18-24 motnhs buy still playing them heavily as recurrents, instead of giving some of the newcomers to the format of the past 12-18 months a legitimate shot at becoming stars, victimizing some VERY worthy folks such as Jamie O'Neal & Rachel Proctor, to name a couple.
To put it more bluntly, today's corporate owners of the nation's radio stations are bean counters first, and know next to nothing about what makes COMPELLING radio.
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Post by kyhomeg on Jul 21, 2005 23:13:46 GMT -5
Actually it was his first single since 1993 not to hit top 10. Since Indian Outlaw peaked at #8 in 1994, all Tim's singles have reached Top 10 and only a small handful have failed to reach Top 5.
It is a shame that two of the best singles on his album will probadly never see radio. The song, Old Town New is probadly one of the best songs he has ever done IMO and also the song Kill Myself and Walk Like a Man are very compelling and strong songs.
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Post by Jim King on Jul 21, 2005 23:20:36 GMT -5
I've said this before, but it must be repeated that today's country PDs are being smothered and micromanaged to death; they are under VERY intense pressure from the clueless suits who are ruining format after format to put Wall Street's insatiable thirst for profits above the needs of their listeners, which makes for dull, safe and boring radio. Assiging one PD to be the PD of SEVERAL stations in a single market is a cost-cutting move of the worst possible kind. Consequently too many PDs out there have fried many of the biggest single of the past 18-24 motnhs buy still playing them heavily as recurrents, instead of giving some of the newcomers to the format of the past 12-18 months a legitimate shot at becoming stars, victimizing some VERY worthy folks such as Jamie O'Neal & Rachel Proctor, to name a couple. To put it more bluntly, today's corporate owners of the nation's radio stations are bean counters first, and know next to nothing about what makes COMPELLING radio. Amen to that. I got in my car earlier tonight and Kicks FM (WKHX) here in Atlanta was playing "Nothin' To Lose." Gimme a break. They are not even playing "A Real Fine Place To Start" yet, much less Lisa Brokop, Susan Haynes, Catherine Britt (Elton lives here, for cryin' out loud), and of course they never gave Rachel Proctor, The Jenkins, Kellie Coffey, or Rebecca Lynn Howard a chance. Of course here in Georgia they are programming directly to guys in pickup trucks. No sissy female singers here. I changed stations. ~ Jim
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Post by Zazie on Jul 21, 2005 23:46:14 GMT -5
I am not sure there ought to be, automatically, a relationship between airplay success and sales. I can see how it would happen a lot of the time, but I'm not at all sure we (the listening audience) are better off that way. There are different kinds of artists, aren't there?
There are plenty of songs I enjoy hearing on the car radio but I'd never buy the CD containing them. They're fun, they're good driving songs. Fast Cars and Freedom is a good example -- nice catchy rhythm, decent lyrics, decent vocals; and you couldn't get me to buy RF at gunpoint. I like the occasional LeAnn Rimes song on the radio but I'll probably never buy her either.
Then there are lots of terrific albums by people like Darryl Scott, Rodney Crowell, Leslie Satcher, Vince Gill, and Patty Loveless whose music isn't going to get played on the radio much, if at all, and that's fine. Pat Green makes great CD's but if he never catches on at country radio, I'll live with that.
So I'm not surprised there are differences between radio success and CD sales. I'm surprised there aren't more differences than we already see.
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Post by musicfan_84 on Jul 21, 2005 23:56:54 GMT -5
My two cents is that there are only a handful of artists whom I consider to be 'automatics', which means artists whose CDs I will buy immediately upon their release because I have faith in their product. My list would include Trace Adkins, Tim, Lee Ann Womack, AJ, B&D, King George and a few others. Insofar as the chart performance of Gerorge's 'YBT', I wouldn't get too disturbed over the fact that only 'I Hate Everything', 'She'll Leave You With A Smile' and 'Living And Living Well' from his last three CDs have hit #1; 'Run', which is my favorite Strait song of the past 5 years, needed AJ's exceptional 'Where Were You?' to prevent it from spending a minimum of three weeks at #1. While nobody's hotter than Kenny Chesney, the 25-54 women who drive the format absolutely LOVE him, so his singles are bound to streak up the charts, even if a song such as 'Keg In The Closet' ran out of steam after just ten weeks. His country music product of the past five years has been anywhere from okay to exceptional, even if not up to what McGraw, AJ, B&D or Strait have produced over that same time period. 'Drugs Or Jesus' was Tim's first single since at least 1996 NOT to hit the top ten, so perhaps he was due. I did feel that there were other FAR stronger candidates for smash singles on his CD, with 'Blank Sheet Of Paper' easily topping my wish list. 'DOJ' was above all else, a VERY compelling song,which is what great country tunes have always been, whether you like to subject matter or not. The same could also be said about Jo Dee Messina's rrecent #1 'My Give A Damn's Busted'; great title, great lyrics, VERY compelling, and a very good story song with timely reference to the pill-popping addicts that too many of us have become. Insofar as AJ goes, I agree that his current CD isn't as good as 'Drive' or his 1996 masterpiece, 'Everything I Love', which include FIVE top 10 singles and three #1s. But along with Strait, he still epitomized traditional country music, and it's certainly nice to see Trace Adkins, Brad Paisley and promising newcomers such as Blaine Larsen add their own traditon-based country tunes to the country music landscape. Reba would appear to be a mortal lock to finish among the top five female singles artist of the year, and in spite of her label's reprehensible spin-buying spree which pushed 'Somebody' to #1 @ BB, her current and previous signles are both good, if not in the category of Msd. Womack's stupendous new CD. I've said this before, but it must be repeated that today's country PDs are being smothered and micromanaged to death; they are under VERY intense pressure from the clueless suits who are ruining format after format to put Wall Street's insatiable thirst for profits above the needs of their listeners, which makes for dull, safe and boring radio. Assiging one PD to be the PD of SEVERAL stations in a single market is a cost-cutting move of the worst possible kind. Consequently too many PDs out there have fried many of the biggest single of the past 18-24 motnhs buy still playing them heavily as recurrents, instead of giving some of the newcomers to the format of the past 12-18 months a legitimate shot at becoming stars, victimizing some VERY worthy folks such as Jamie O'Neal & Rachel Proctor, to name a couple. To put it more bluntly, today's corporate owners of the nation's radio stations are bean counters first, and know next to nothing about what makes COMPELLING radio. Marv I don't think I've disagreed with you on a single subject... and this is no exception! :) Very well said.
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Post by Perp on Jul 22, 2005 0:04:24 GMT -5
Marv, your "two cents" contribution is worth more than you think! A great read. Thanks! Lots of other interesting contributions too. Great thread!
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Post by drock89 on Jul 22, 2005 6:54:44 GMT -5
Ok so let's get some more discussion going here: Why do the labels and radio, as a whole, try to make their own stars? If the demographic wants to hear Jamie and Brad, why push Gretchen and Kenny? You would think the point is to promote albums, and so in turn you would think that you would push what people want to hear.
Now given, most Kenny/Toby/Tim/Martina/Faith songs test very well. But on the flip a lot of songs that test well do not become hits. And as always, every star is going to have misses--that's part of the business.
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Post by Marv on Jul 22, 2005 22:39:20 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the VERY kind words everyone; it's nice to read and appreciate those compliments.
Insofar as Tim goes, I knew that the only single he's released since 1997 which didn't crack the top five was 'Some Things Never Change', which peaked at #7, if memory serves. The 'controversial' single 'Red Ragtop made it to #5.
R&R did a very nice 10-year tribute to him about a year ago, and it mentioned how insistent he was about 'Indian Outlaw' being released as single; his label honchos were dead set against it, but he eventually prevailed, and 'IO' did peak at #11.
Insofar as recurrents and the avalanche of new artists who've come along is the past 3-4 years, with Nichols & Urban leading the way, it's VERY disgusting to me that 'When The Sun Goes Down', which hit #1 almost TWENTY months ago and wound up in 2004's top three, is #49 for THIS year, which simply means that LOTS of the great new artists who've come along in the past 24 months (starting with Rachel Proctor' have been getting victimized by PDs who are too cautious because of their clueless corporate owners.
The format has unquestionably swung back towards it's traditional roots since the horrors of September 11th, 2001, and the PDs SHOULD have the autonomy to use their guts when selecting new singles and/or CD cuts to play.
My raving about newcomer Lisa Brokop's electrifying new single on another thread is very sincere; that song (The Big Picture) just blows my doors off.
Once upon a time, a single as punchy and catchy as that would have streaked up the charts like mad, even if not at the blistering pace which saw 'Redneck Woman' soar to #1 in just 11 weeks, which is definitely superstar-type territory.
But that was before the 'suits' came along and took the phrase 'use your gut feelings' out of the arsenal of the majority of PDs at most formats, not just country.
Here's hoping the PDs out there who've given the song a chance (with R J Curtis of KZLA here in LA certainly near the front of the pack) will continue to do so, and that this song soars into the top 10, and does not suffer the same sickening fate that the extraordinary first three singles from Rachel Proctor (Days Like This/Didn't I?/Me and Emily) did.
The format will always have its superstars, but giving the promising newcomers a REAL shot is an absolute must, IMHO. (In My Humble Opinion).
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Post by kyhomeg on Jul 23, 2005 0:10:14 GMT -5
Marv on Billboard Tim's song Indian Outlaw peaked at #8 in 1994. After that song every song of his reached at least the Top 5 until Somethings Never Change in 2000(on Billboard it was #6 I think).
The next song of his to not reach Top 5 was Drugs or Jesus.
So in his career since Indian Outlaw and including that song he has only had three songs not reached Top 5 and ONLY ONE not reach Top 10. that is quite imoressive stats.
He is now in the Top 10 of weeks at #1 and only George Strait from the last 25 years is in that Top 10.
In the modern chart the BDS system going back to 1989-199o time frame Tim is #1 over anybody at weeks at #1.
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Post by countrywoman on Jul 23, 2005 10:56:42 GMT -5
Steelo, you must be not the smartest person on earth or just jealous of those superstars success. The facts are that all of them have been huge superstars for years and still are. Country radio is irrelevant. The real big stars like sell alot of cd's without country radis support. George,Alan and Reba will do just fine. As for Shania, she has far eclsiped Nashville and has been a huge worldwide star for many years. she is basically country musics only global superstar and she still sells million more worldwide than all the country artists combined. Her Up tour grossed over 100 million worldwide and she is the only country artist on Forbes most powerful list in 2005. So Shania is doing just fine. EVen without promoting her singles she still sells more and pulls more money in that all country artists Shaniagotcha, I thought you were smarter than this. You know Shania could careless about a single on a country chart. She is about getting the music to the people no making the industry happy. Heck, Shania is the best selling country female of alltime with just 4 albums. Her priorities are her family and charities now. But what is really sad is that she can still sell more than Faith Hill and all the other country artists by not even promoting. She is country musics only true global megastar. Time to get your head out of the sand gotcha and the other posters, if a huge megastar like Shania cared about country singles so much or position on a country singles chart then she would do more interview, push her songs or even promote more and come to North America more. Face it, she is bigger than Nashville and eclisped it a long time ago. Shania is enjoying life now and when she comes out with another studio album she will once again sell millions worldwide without country airplay, now that is the sign of a true superstar who doesn't need fake hype and somebody paying her song to reach a measly country singles chart to have success because she knows she has the biggest fan base in all of country music all over the world. those are the facts.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Jul 23, 2005 14:13:35 GMT -5
Nice try, but there is NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING to be jealous of. The ones that make the best music are the ones that don't get recognized much, if at all. But again, nice try.
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Post by musicfan_84 on Jul 23, 2005 17:08:17 GMT -5
Steelo, you must be not the smartest person on earth or just jealous of those superstars success. The facts are that all of them have been huge superstars for years and still are. Country radio is irrelevant. The real big stars like sell alot of cd's without country radis support. George,Alan and Reba will do just fine. As for Shania, she has far eclsiped Nashville and has been a huge worldwide star for many years. she is basically country musics only global superstar and she still sells million more worldwide than all the country artists combined. Her Up tour grossed over 100 million worldwide and she is the only country artist on Forbes most powerful list in 2005. So Shania is doing just fine. EVen without promoting her singles she still sells more and pulls more money in that all country artists Shaniagotcha, I thought you were smarter than this. You know Shania could careless about a single on a country chart. She is about getting the music to the people no making the industry happy. Heck, Shania is the best selling country female of alltime with just 4 albums. Her priorities are her family and charities now. But what is really sad is that she can still sell more than Faith Hill and all the other country artists by not even promoting. She is country musics only true global megastar. Time to get your head out of the sand gotcha and the other posters, if a huge megastar like Shania cared about country singles so much or position on a country singles chart then she would do more interview, push her songs or even promote more and come to North America more. Face it, she is bigger than Nashville and eclisped it a long time ago. Shania is enjoying life now and when she comes out with another studio album she will once again sell millions worldwide without country airplay, now that is the sign of a true superstar who doesn't need fake hype and somebody paying her song to reach a measly country singles chart to have success because she knows she has the biggest fan base in all of country music all over the world. those are the facts. FrancineNY is back... or maybe it's a NEW troll?! Goody!!
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musicbuff78
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Post by musicbuff78 on Jul 23, 2005 17:54:28 GMT -5
LOL
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