Toby to do Hip-Hop

[kyhomeg]

Toby Keith To Try Hip-Hop Collaboration
Tim McGraw did it with Nelly, Big & Rich did it with Cowboy Troy, and now Toby Keith plans to record with a rapper. Toby will work with Ludacris. Toby says, quote, "Country artists and rap artists have more in common than any other two genres of music ...

Except IMO the Nelly and Tim song was not hip-hop are rap.

[musicfan_84]

Although I haven't heard the song they will be doing, I know that Ludacris is definately a hardcore rapper. The Nelly/Tim song to me was more R&B/Smooth than hip-hop or rap... I actually liked the song.

I will reserve judgement on the Toby/Ludacris song until I hear it, but I can't picture it turning out "less rap" than Tim/Nelly, simply because of the type of rapper Ludacris is.

[mbgriffith1]

That sound of something hitting the floor is the vomit coming from my mouth. I REALLY did not think that Toby could get worse, but he has, BIG TIME. Ludacris' music is disgusting and reprehensible, and the fact that Toby would even associate with him is disgusting. I hope this is a joke, because if not then it is quite a shame that Toby has sunk so low from his "Should've Been A Cowboy" days. Oh well, at least I still have George Strait, Sugarland, Radney Foster, Lee Ann Womack and Sara Evans.

[kyhomeg]

I don't even know any of this Ludacris's music so I can't make a judgement there. About the only rap I like is some of Will Smith's music. I hear about rap alot from my two nephews. That is all they listen too.

I actually think the Eminen(?spelling) guy is very talented if you can get past the language, some of what he has to say is very thought provking. Don't know much about Nelly's music so can't make a comment there. I will say though that the Suit album of his with Tim was not what I consider rap, more R&B stuff.

[bigbluenote]

YO, PEOPLE: Did yall not see the news that this IS NOT going to happen? It was on www.gactv.com . TOBY WILL NOT DO THIS DUET.....YET. So, if that 'yet' means eventaully, we don't know. BUT Toby IS NOT doing this duet with Ludacris.

If you're going to post news, MAKE SURE IT'S CORRECT AND TRUE.

EDIT: This piece of news was on the website I think on Monday.

[kyhomeg]

Well guess who is on the cover of USA Weekend this week none other that Toby and Ludacris. Big headlines about rap with country. So why would they pose for this picture you think. Both looked vry happy.

[kyhomeg]

Comments like this is why I can't stand Toby and no matter how good his music might be at times, I won't give it the time of day. He needs to get another act this one is getting old. An excerpt form the article.

Sitting down with the artists

Many of our readers are probably asking themselves: What in the heck are these two guys doing in the same room? But is there more common ground here than you'd think?

Keith: Absolutely. I get more respect from rap artists than I do from my own industry. I don't always write the kind of music that country executives want. Rappers are like that, too. My words come from the street, and their words come from the street. That slicked-up pop stuff doesn't come from the street. It's all pre-fab. I did a Super Bowl special once, and Darryl McDaniels from Run DMC came up to me and said he liked my lyrics and understood my frustration about being an outsider in country circles.

Well if he gets more respect from rap artist than country, go join them, I won't msis him.

How can a guy who has WON 2 EOTY say he gets no respect. That is only the Top prize in country, does he realize how stupid and petty that makes him sound.

I never hear artist like Tim, Kenny, George or Alan making comments like that, they have more class. If he gets no respect with 2 EOTY, than what is Tim getting with ONLY ONE in his career. Sorry Toby is a jerk.

[drock89]

It's because Tim, Kenny, George, nor Alan have ever been snubbed the way that Toby has. To be up for 9 nominations (was it 9 or 7) for the 2003 CMAs and come home with nothing, now that's a statement. He and many in Nashville have butted heads several times over the course of his career, so it doesn't shock me when he says that he's an outsider. And these awards, as beautiful as they may seem, aren't always legit too..

[kyhomeg]

Give me a break Toby is like a broken record that whines more than any artist out there. You have to give respect to earn it and Toby's reputation is not nothing to write home about. To whine that he gets no respect when he has 2 ENTERTAINER OF THEY YEAR AWARDS ON HIS MANTLE, MAKES HIM LOOK VERY SMALL INDEED.


I am sure Travis Tritt would love to slap Toby when he makes these aggorant, remarks, talk about lack of respect now there is a guy that can say that for real, not Toby Keith.

[bigbluenote]

kyhomeg said:

Comments like this is why I can't stand Toby and no matter how good his music might be at times, I won't give it the time of day. He needs to get another act this one is getting old. An excerpt form the article.

Sitting down with the artists

Many of our readers are probably asking themselves: What in the heck are these two guys doing in the same room? But is there more common ground here than you'd think?

Keith: Absolutely. I get more respect from rap artists than I do from my own industry. I don't always write the kind of music that country executives want. Rappers are like that, too. My words come from the street, and their words come from the street. That slicked-up pop stuff doesn't come from the street. It's all pre-fab. I did a Super Bowl special once, and Darryl McDaniels from Run DMC came up to me and said he liked my lyrics and understood my frustration about being an outsider in country circles.

Well if he gets more respect from rap artist than country, go join them, I won't msis him.

Toby never said that he got NO respect from other country artists. He said that he gets more respect from Rap artists than his own peers, which is true.

You need to stop putting words his others' mouth.

By the way, did you read Toby's explanation on why he thinks that? If you stop reading one sentence and read the whole statement he made, maybe it'd make more sense to you.

Did you also realize that at the industry run awards, Toby gets nothing? (and don't push that '2 time entertainer' crap in my face, he won those 2 because no one else was even close to deserving for those 2 years). At the fan voted awards, he seems to gets much more?

[kyhomeg]

Give me a break Toby has won 3 Male Vocalist awards in his career, Two Album of The Year awards, 2 Entertainer of The Year and plus more. What more does he want, his problem is he believes he deserves all the awards, all the time and has a huge chip on his shoulder.

Lets see him stand in line behind Conway Twitty an artist that could wipe the floor with Toby, who NEVER won a Male Vocalist Award, NEVER won a Album award and NEVER won a Entertainer award. What Conway didn't do was whine like a crybaby abiout it.

[drock89]

Is respect all about awards? No, that would be recognition. You have no idea what goes on in Nashville between the artists, press, labels, etc. Do you ever see other artists saying anything good about Toby's music? Nope..

[kyhomeg]

You know Toby is the ONLY one I hear putting down other artist, you never hear other artist like Alan, George ot Tim putting down their fellow artist, that's only Toby's way of doing it. There is plently interviews he has done in the last year or so that I could quote.

[drock89]

kyhomeg said:

You know Toby is the ONLY one I hear putting down other artist, you never hear other artist like Alan, George ot Tim putting down their fellow artist, that's only Toby's way of doing it. There is plently interviews he has done in the last year or so that I could quote.

Faith does it. :o

[bigbluenote]

kyhomeg said:

You know Toby is the ONLY one I hear putting down other artist, you never hear other artist like Alan, George ot Tim putting down their fellow artist, that's only Toby's way of doing it. There is plently interviews he has done in the last year or so that I could quote.

I have never heard Toby put down other artists. He does mention quite often that he doesn't get the recognition and respect that he deserves. But he doesn't put down others.

Also, I was told that George and Alan's duet 'Murder On Music Row' was written and performed especially for Shania. So, there is a PERFECT example of someone, other than Toby (which I never heard), putting down another artist.

[kyhomeg]

Well go to CMT and listen to some interviews from Keith, there is plently there the last time dealt with the Grammy's. Read the article where he put down Trisha Yearwood , do some looking its there and this is all in the last 11/2 years. he pratically called Trisha a second rate artist compared to him when complaining about him not winning the new artist award years ago. Look up some interviews he has done in the last year theyare all there. Go ahead I challenge you to do it and think come back and tell me Toby doesn't put down his fellow artist. No other artist does it.

[kyhomeg]

Toby like I said has a huge chip on hsi shoulder and its only gotten bigger. He thinks he is God to country music and should win it all. Other artist treat their peers with respect, Toby is quick to trash someone but in a subtle way.

As for Faith and Tim they never , never put down their fellow artist. That is so not them.

[musicbuff78]

He only gets more respect from rap artists because like them, his music sounds like sh!t.

[bigbluenote]

steelo said:

He only gets more respect from rap artists because like them, his music sounds like sh!t.

That's an opinion, not a fact. I don't like to argue over opinions. But I will add that Toby's music is nowhere near 'sh!t', it's 'real hard core country', unlike other 'country' artists out there. But again, this is an opinion, and arguing over opinions seems to always get outta hand and blown outta proportion.

[drock89]

kyhomeg said:

As for Faith and Tim they never , never put down their fellow artist. That is so not them.

Another not true statement. When Shania won EOTY in 99, Faith said that she didn't deserve it. Tim was such a better candidate and she can't believe that Tim didn't win, and then said, after apologizing to Shania, "but it's now time for my husband to win that award.'' However on Tim's part, he shot her a horrible look and said, "What hasn't she done for country music, and what hasn't she done for females in country music? She deserves everything she gets, absolutely.''

[jacksonfan]

kyhomeg said:

Except IMO the Nelly and Tim song was not hip-hop are rap.

You must be joking - right? That's as hip-hop as everything else Nelly does! Listen again woman!

[mbgriffith1]

Anytime someone goes on and on about "not getting the respect they deserve" they automatically become undeserving of any respect in my book. To think that you deserve awards over everyone else is egotistical and obnoxious. You can believe that you are talented, but to think that you are the best thing to hit country music since sliced bread is so juvenile and immature. I also LOOOVE how Toby Keith says he goes against the Nashville industry types when ALL of his music is prefabricated country crap too. Just because its not pop country does not mean its any deeper. I'm sorry but "Stays in Mexico" is better than that sappy uninspired crap from Lonestar and Rascal Flatts? I don't think so. And "I Love This Bar"... I guess that was some totally innovative song that the music exec's would be against? I don't think so... It's pure idiotic crap and he knows it. Toby Keith is nothing more than a good marketer. He knows how to give people/idiots what they want and he's doing it well. I look forward to the day when we talk about that moment when Toby Keith finally stopped being popular. He's milked every trend imaginable including the pro-war movement (I do support the war, but I DO NOT support artists who turn it into a cash cow because they know that if they sing inane lyrics about kicking ass that everyone will buy it). I hope we can finally put a rest to Toby Keith and let the other much more talented other artists trying to get played on radio get the support they deserve. (i.e. Miranda Lambert and Hanna-McEuen)

[kyhomeg]

Shania fan you are not telling the truth, I have all the the interviews from that on tape, I tape everything on Tim and Faith. What Faith said BEFORE  the CMA's was  that it was Tim turn's to win Entertainer(he never had at that point), she said it was his turn BEFORE THE CMA'S. There is nothing wrong with that, she was supporting her husband and that was her opinion. She NOT once mention Shania and said she didn't deserve it. .

Next Tim and Faith are very supportive of other artist,  you see them at awards they always clapping and standing and applauding the other artist and will be one of the first to reach out an hand to say congrats. That is so ovivious to anybody it you watch the shows.

Like I said you are 100% wrong with your little statement.

[bigbluenote]

EDIT: The problem was fixed.

[kyhomeg]

The Nelly and Tim song was NOT hip hop or rap, sorry but you must have a hearing problem

[bigbluenote]

Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong: Isn't Nelly a RAP artist? Or HIP HOP? One of the two. So that would make that Nelly/Tim duet a RAP or HIP HOP song, right?

[kyhomeg]

bigbluenote said:

Again, someone correct me if I'm wrong: Isn't Nelly a RAP artist? Or HIP HOP? One of the two. So that would make that Nelly/Tim duet a RAP or HIP HOP song, right?

No you are a wrong, just cause his classification is a rapper doesn't mean he can't sing other kinds a music. Willie Nelson is a country artist, he just put out a reggae album, does that make him a reggae artist now instead of a country artist.

Nelly put out two albums, one was his typical rap music the other was more a R&B style album that is actually very good. It is not a Rap album. There is a difference you know between R&B and Rap.

The song Over and Over has none of the elments that make up rap. So NO it is not a rap song, no matter what kinda artist Nelly is mostly known for.

[bigbluenote]

Ok, thanks for clearing it up for me.

I do not know the difference between R&B, Hip Hop, and Rap. I know there's a difference, but don't know what it is. That's why I asked someone to correct me if I was wrong, because I had no idea.

[reception]