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Post by .indulgecountry on Mar 6, 2014 21:50:17 GMT -5
I'm disappointed she hasn't done this live anywhere yet either. There's been a lot of social media promo for this upcoming album, but I think she needs to do more. It's not like she's not capable of delivering a knockout performance either because she's an incredible live performer. There's two main reasons for the lack of traditional promo - Pique & Milan. Pique is not allowed to leave Spain due to his contract with his soccer team. While Shakira is in the US she keeps Milan away from Pique. Every chance she gets, she zooms away to Spain. Right now she's in Spain. This album will have very little promo. She'll mostly just perform on The Voice. During the Grammy's, where was Shakira? In Spain This is incredibly disappointing. Shakira can't possibly re-establish herself properly as a mainstream pop artist in the U.S. without doing more than she's been doing. The Voice is helping with visibility and she has a strong presence on social media, but it can only go so far. I really thought she was going to push hard with this album era. Hopefully she'll pull something off with the next single and promote it better since she's not doing it with CRTFY.
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Post by Wolfy on Mar 6, 2014 22:00:43 GMT -5
There's two main reasons for the lack of traditional promo - Pique & Milan. Pique is not allowed to leave Spain due to his contract with his soccer team. While Shakira is in the US she keeps Milan away from Pique. Every chance she gets, she zooms away to Spain. Right now she's in Spain. This album will have very little promo. She'll mostly just perform on The Voice. During the Grammy's, where was Shakira? In Spain This is incredibly disappointing. Shakira can't possibly re-establish herself properly as a mainstream pop artist in the U.S. without doing more than she's been doing. The Voice is helping with visibility and she has a strong presence on social media, but it can only go so far. I really thought she was going to push hard with this album era. Hopefully she'll pull something off with the next single and promote it better since she's not doing it with CRTFY. Divas get like that after they have kids. Their #1 becomes their kid, not their career. But, let's hope Shakira does more promo when the album is released. Its strange really. Her single is going to come and go, and where has Shakira been during all this? We've only seen her on The Voice, and that's not CRTFY promo. Still, just her showing up on the show caused an iTunes surge for CRTFY. Imagine if she actually did promo for it? Its still possible, it just won't be as easy. Social media + the voice will be enough to give the 2nd single a big initial push. If the song is strong enough to survive off that, it will become a hit. The problem is that it needs to survive just off that. Normally Shakira performs her singles everywhere. *Sigh* All we can do is hope for the best and hope the performances on The Voice are good The 3rd single will be Dare. We know because its the World Cup song. The World Cup will be promo for the single. Again, they find ways to promote Shakira's music without having to use Shakira. The whole Rihanna rubbing up against Shakira was also an idea to find ways to promote the song without having to use Shakira. But, who knows, maybe CRTFY under-performing will wake her up and she'll do more promo. All fans knew this was possible, and even likely. But, we still remained positive. It is disappointing. I guess all we can do is hope she changes her mind and does more promo around the time her album is released.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 7, 2014 6:28:40 GMT -5
POP: 23 23 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4133 3932 201 19.774
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HOT AC: 40 36 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 315 304 11 1.242
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RHYTHMIC: 38 36 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 567 572 -5 2.246
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Post by Kishi KCM on Mar 7, 2014 10:25:02 GMT -5
It makes sense that she goes to Spain so her boyfriend can spend time with their child, family first! Which also means we won't be getting many performances.
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Post by HolidayGuy on Mar 7, 2014 10:49:22 GMT -5
The lack-of-promo promo thing rearing its head again. CRITFY certainly has awareness; it just hasn't clicked like other singles. A performance or two only would have done so much.
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Post by Wolfy on Mar 8, 2014 0:22:00 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 8, 2014 6:34:27 GMT -5
POP: 23 23 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4174 3982 192 19.875
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HOT AC: 40 35 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 322 299 23 1.298
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RHYTHMIC: 38 36 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 586 567 19 2.335
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Post by Hussy on Mar 8, 2014 23:10:23 GMT -5
nice gains! but radio should really take the final decision towards this song by now
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 9, 2014 6:51:59 GMT -5
POP: 23 23 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4176 4066 110 19.970
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HOT AC: 37 36 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 310 309 1 1.221
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RHYTHMIC: 37 36 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 601 572 29 2.374
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Post by Kishi KCM on Mar 9, 2014 7:39:50 GMT -5
It's been 2 months now and at this point, it's not clear what direction it'll go in. Of course, it would be nice to see it hold steady and gain.
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Post by calichaos on Mar 9, 2014 15:52:12 GMT -5
This is such a great jam a performance with Rihanna would catapult it to #1 imho
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Post by Lahey's Lucky Star on Mar 9, 2014 16:14:41 GMT -5
The blinds aren't even done yet, so IDK about a performance on The Voice right now...
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Post by Kishi KCM on Mar 9, 2014 16:19:44 GMT -5
It's almost a guarantee that this won't get a performance until the album release week.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 10, 2014 5:39:39 GMT -5
POP: 23 21 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4167 4116 51 20.275
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HOT AC: 36 37 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 298 314 -16 1.144
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RHYTHMIC: 37 34 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 607 574 33 2.415
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Post by Wolfy on Mar 10, 2014 14:31:35 GMT -5
It seems that radio is slowly gaining confidence in the song. It's been top 40 on iTunes now for a long time (currently #31). The video is still on fire (currently #2 on vevo). Still holding on after this long means it's starting to grow on radio and people. Who knows, maybe it will survive long enough that it will surge from a live performance.
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Post by M 123 on Mar 10, 2014 15:13:39 GMT -5
It seems that radio is slowly gaining confidence in the song. It's been top 40 on iTunes now for a long time (currently #31). The video is still on fire (currently #2 on vevo). Still holding on after this long means it's starting to grow on radio and people. Who knows, maybe it will survive long enough that it will surge from a live performance. You still have hope ? .... I think it's over ... It was too overhyped
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Post by Wolfy on Mar 10, 2014 15:49:02 GMT -5
It seems that radio is slowly gaining confidence in the song. It's been top 40 on iTunes now for a long time (currently #31). The video is still on fire (currently #2 on vevo). Still holding on after this long means it's starting to grow on radio and people. Who knows, maybe it will survive long enough that it will surge from a live performance. You still have hope ? .... I think it's over ... It was too overhyped It's not hope, it's interesting that it's been able to hold on this long. It wasn't a quick rise / quick fall like people expected. So, I'm just curious to see how it does. It could still drop or increase. As for the song, it did get Shakira's name out there again. The video was a big hit, that plus the voice got her to surge on social media. This all sets up Empire quite well. If the song itself underperforms it's not too big of a deal since her name is still out there. CRTFY got Shakira to #1 on the social 50. If Empire takes off this could still be a big era for Shakira. I'm not too bothered with CRTFY. It did it's job, which was to get Shakira's name out there again. Obviously a big hit would be better, but Shakira is still in pretty good shape for Empire.
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Post by Hussy on Mar 10, 2014 21:06:59 GMT -5
but Empire won't do anything, it will most probably flop
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Post by Wolfy on Mar 10, 2014 21:49:51 GMT -5
but Empire won't do anything, it will most probably flop Maybe, maybe not. I could see it doing similar to "Say Something." That song was introduced on the voice. Surged on iTunes then later on radio started to play it. What makes me optimistic about "Empire" is that people seem to like it. Its receiving positive comments all over the net. Read the comments on youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYUrKOePLvsPersonally, I'm glad she's releasing something like "Empire" and not something people expect, like HDL V2. Another reason I love "Empire" is that this is the type of music Shakira wants to release, not HDL types.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 11, 2014 5:31:54 GMT -5
POP: 23 21 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4169 4165 4 20.523
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HOT AC: 35 39 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 287 315 -28 1.073
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RHYTHMIC: 37 34 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 610 565 45 2.399
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 12, 2014 5:36:41 GMT -5
POP: 23 21 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4172 4153 19 20.539
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HOT AC: 36 39 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 281 317 -36 1.020
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RHYTHMIC: 37 37 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 607 570 37 2.415
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Post by M 123 on Mar 12, 2014 13:18:17 GMT -5
Wolfy give up!! This isn't happening ...
Hopefully "dare(lalala) comes out soon .... It should of been the first single from the beginning
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Post by Adonis the DemiGod! on Mar 12, 2014 13:31:16 GMT -5
Id stick with this for a bit longer. It seems like it could turn into something more. It might be another CS. Id prefer it not be but...I think this is one perf away from catching on.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 13, 2014 5:27:18 GMT -5
Top 20 before Sunday! It'd be great if she can hold onto it for the morning update, would save her having to be pulled in by Ellie going recurrent!
POP: 23 20 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4182 4164 18 20.419
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HOT AC: 35 41 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 277 318 -41 0.976
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RHYTHMIC: 37 37 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 615 559 56 2.430
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Post by Devil Marlena Nylund on Mar 13, 2014 21:27:26 GMT -5
I can't believe this is being used in a Crest commercial.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 14, 2014 5:38:39 GMT -5
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POP: 23 20 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4161 4133 28 20.179
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HOT AC: 36 41 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 271 315 -44 0.926
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RHYTHMIC: 36 37 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 616 567 49 2.344
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Post by Wolfy on Mar 14, 2014 15:28:24 GMT -5
In the next couple weeks we'll be getting album release promo. So, we'll finally be getting some performances. Likely one of those will be CRTFY. But, I think they might already be ready to move onto "Empire." KIIS played the song 3 times today. They've also been playing CRTFY a lot today. That's a lot of Shakira for one day for KIIS. www.mediabase.com/whatsong/whatsong.asp?var_s=075073073083045070077Thus far KIIS has played Shakira 9 times today and its barely 3PM here.
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Post by Juanca on Mar 15, 2014 0:41:43 GMT -5
I'm afraid this'll face a similar situation than She Wolf. I remember it took her about two months to finally perform and do some promo but it had already peaked in pop radio. It started to fall rapidly just when it received an iTunes boost and then stabilized. Too late promo I hope this has some life left so that promo can coincide with its peaking at least.
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Post by Wolfy on Mar 15, 2014 1:34:47 GMT -5
I'm not as worried this time. Last time after SW they panicked and released GIUTM. After that they moved onto the Spanish album, which went on to sell 4M copies worldwide. Obviously with very little help from the US. This time though, they are not changing plans. They still plan to release "Empire." I have a good feeling about Empire because its getting praised all over the net. I also like that she'll be able to perform it on The Voice. If radio gives this a chance, it should do well.
Who knows, maybe CRTFY will continue to rise a bit more while radio starts to play Empire.
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Post by Az Paynter on Mar 15, 2014 5:28:34 GMT -5
Pop radio has the s**ttiest timing these days, like seriously WTF. If you're gonna pull the plug could you at least wait until THE WEEK IS OVER?! POP:23 20 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 4097 4174 -77 20.036 -64 Spins -105 Bullet -0.146 Audience HOT AC:35 43 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 262 322 -60 0.877 -9 Spins -16 Bullet -0.049 Audience RHYTHMIC:36 37 SHAKIRA F/RIHANNA Can't Remember To Forget You 615 586 29 2.288 -1 Spin -20 Bullet -0.056 Audience
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