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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 28, 2005 21:00:58 GMT -5
Wonder what is going on with Alan Jackson. Has his days of being on top over? His latest album is one of his weakest performances of his career.
He is now on his 4th single and still at this point not one #1 single. That has never happen with Alan before. His album for months has been in the 50's and 60's on the country album chart and still in the 51 weeks it has been out has still NOT sold a million.
His first week sales were 178,000 that is less than even Brad and Rascal Flatts and way lower than his 435,000 for Drive and 335,000 for his Greatest Hits.
So what is going on? Is he moved to a different phase of his career. Jimmy Carter's "Rumbles To The Row" article last week made this comment, was he talking about Alan?
Look at the concert grosses for a few big names now on tour. Quite disappointing in a few cases for both the men and women. A changing of the guard is here. Some of the big names of today aren't burning up the ticket sales or CD sales
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Post by bigbluenote on Aug 28, 2005 21:11:43 GMT -5
I thought JacksonFan was 'invisible' to you.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 28, 2005 21:47:42 GMT -5
Yes, she is but I'm talking about Alan the superstar right. They are not one and the same you know?
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Post by bamafan2102 on Aug 28, 2005 22:46:30 GMT -5
I have heard from a source that has given me a lot of true info that Alan is getting ready to take some time off. No time table on a return has been set but at least a year. I think it will do him good and let him work on his material a little more.
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Post by Jonsolo on Aug 28, 2005 23:01:07 GMT -5
Wonder what is going on with Alan Jackson. Has his days of being on top over? kyhomeg - Master of the Rhetorical Question.
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Post by firedancer on Aug 28, 2005 23:04:20 GMT -5
I have heard from a source that has given me a lot of true info that Alan is getting ready to take some time off. No time table on a return has been set but at least a year. I think it will do him good and let him work on his material a little more. Gotta say I'm glad to hear this. I have been incredibly dissapointed in his material lately. Alan has never been one of my favorites, and I was probably the only person on Earth who did not care for "where were you" (and no, that does not make me un-American), but I do enjoy his older material. It's been a few years since I've wanted to turn him up in my car. I think he's already moving into, if not already there, the living legend catagory of country music and I'd love to see him make some more really undeniable music.
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Post by bamafan2102 on Aug 28, 2005 23:09:41 GMT -5
His best album was Who I Am by far. One of my all time favorite songs is Hole In The Wall. I also liked Everything I Love. I agree that everthing after Where Were You has been sort of down for me. I hope for a return in a couple of years with and album that goes back to the Who I Am days.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2005 0:19:30 GMT -5
Gotta say I'm glad to hear this. I have been incredibly dissapointed in his material lately. Alan has never been one of my favorites, and I was probably the only person on Earth who did not care for "where were you" (and no, that does not make me un-American), but I do enjoy his older material. It's been a few years since I've wanted to turn him up in my car. I agree. I also agree with you on the "Where Were You" song. You are not alone in that area. The main line in "Where Were You" about "Faith, Hope and Love...and the Greatest is Love" was a rip off of what Garth said at the end of his "We Shall Be Free" video. Anyway, I won't get into the other reasons why I'm not a huge fan of the song, but let's just say that I agree with you in that area. I enjoyed some of his music in the past, but imo he has really slipped in the past several years. From "Where Were You" to "Murder on Music Row" to that "www.memory" song, or whatever it's called. He has really slipped imo.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 29, 2005 7:37:41 GMT -5
I agree about the "Who I Am" album, it is one of my favorites too. I also love his Drive album, that to me is great from start to finish.
I think his 9/11 song spoke to a lot of people on what they were feeling, and it is my favorite from that time frame. Sure better than Toby's song, that is the one I couldn't stand.
I have alot of repsect how Alan handle it, he was moved to write it, put it out there and then moved on. Toby to me did just the opposite, he made a career for a few years cashing in on that song, and going even farther with his Shock album.
Alan is a living legend now and has his place in country music history and always will.
I do agree his last album is a step down form some of his previous work, but there is also some great songs on the album including Monday Morning Church, don't kniw what happen with that one.
I will always have a lot of respect for Alan and his music just was curious why his sales have dropped off and airplay.
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Post by jacksonfan on Aug 29, 2005 15:26:17 GMT -5
Wonder what is going on with Alan Jackson. Has his days of being on top over? kyhomeg - Master of the Rhetorical Question. Shite disturber is more like it!
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Post by jacksonfan on Aug 29, 2005 15:29:46 GMT -5
Wonder what is going on with Alan Jackson. Has his days of being on top over? His latest album is one of his weakest performances of his career. He is now on his 4th single and still at this point not one #1 single. That has never happen with Alan before. His album for months has been in the 50's and 60's on the country album chart and still in the 51 weeks it has been out has still NOT sold a million. His first week sales were 178,000 that is less than even Brad and Rascal Flatts and way lower than his 435,000 for Drive and 335,000 for his Greatest Hits. So what is going on? Is he moved to a different phase of his career. Jimmy Carter's "Rumbles To The Row" article last week made this comment, was he talking about Alan? Look at the concert grosses for a few big names now on tour. Quite disappointing in a few cases for both the men and women. A changing of the guard is here. Some of the big names of today aren't burning up the ticket sales or CD sales Unlike TIMISGOD - Alan is true to his roots - constantly traditional country - he has NEVER and WILL NEVER turn to a pop/rock/hip-hop flop like TIMISGOD. Alan has not had the type of success as TIMISGOD because he is COUNTRY - he is about quality NOT quantity - how many times does that have to be drilled into your little brain? TIMISGOD can only hope to aspire to the talent and greatness of Alan Jackson. And since I am "invisible" to you - I say it should only take about 24 hours for you to come back with 'GOTCHA - I GOTCHA - I'VE REPORTED YOU TO ADMIN!' - starting now! GOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Post by jacksonfan on Aug 29, 2005 15:30:39 GMT -5
I thought JacksonFan was 'invisible' to you. Only when it's convenient for her! ;)
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Post by KMCB on Aug 29, 2005 17:39:42 GMT -5
I also agree with you on the "Where Were You" song. You are not alone in that area. The main line in "Where Were You" about "Faith, Hope and Love...and the Greatest is Love" was a rip off of what Garth said at the end of his "We Shall Be Free" video. The 'faith, hope, & love' line would actually be a 'rip-off' of the Bible... 1st Corinthians 13, to be exact. I thought the song was touching and beautiful, but that's not the point of my post. I must be a little bizarre, because with several exceptions, I think he's put out some of his greatest music in the past two years, especially '5 o'Clock Somewhere' and 'Monday Morning Church.' I do think the time off will be good though... everyone is succeptible to overexposure or just fatigue. I wish Kenny and Toby would follow suit. ;)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2005 18:22:18 GMT -5
The 'faith, hope, & love' line would actually be a 'rip-off' of the Bible... 1st Corinthians 13, to be exact. I know. I was just struck by how that exact line was used in those two songs. When CMT played the "We Shall Be Free" video one day, the video for "Where Were You" was shown soon after. When I heard Garth says those exact words, it just jumped out at me. I have other reasons for my dislike of "Where Were You", but that just got my attention. Anyway. It is jmo. No problem. To each his own. I agree with that. Kenny is at the top of the list, imo, when it comes to people who could really use a break. The overexposure is ridiculous, even if you discount the press' obsession with his marriage.
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Post by ultramixmarv on Aug 29, 2005 18:34:48 GMT -5
My grandpa and grandma love him, my mom loves him. the grand ole opry love him. the new generation not as much. he's more country than rascal flatts will ever be. "Monday Morning Church" is one of the best country songs i've ever heard in my life". The other stuff is ok,not his best,but ask anybody who loves country music from the 30's til Garth Brooks if Alan is the man, He IS!!!!
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Post by bamafan2102 on Aug 29, 2005 18:53:11 GMT -5
There are very few artist that will stick to a certain sound and Alan has done that from day one. When you hear an Alan Jackson song you know it from the first 3 seconds of music. That is a great thing for about ten years or so but it begins to get redundant after a while. I love Alan's stuff pre Where Were You and even the new stuff is not that bad, but it is getting redundant. www.Memory was not good at all . And the covers album was a decent idea for him because he did some great songs and he is a true country artist and it showed in the arrangements. I really think he has come to a crossroads and really needs the time off. He will be welcome back with open arms whenever he decides to break and come back.
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Post by jacksonfan on Aug 29, 2005 19:50:36 GMT -5
There are very few artist that will stick to a certain sound and Alan has done that from day one. When you hear an Alan Jackson song you know it from the first 3 seconds of music. That is a great thing for about ten years or so but it begins to get redundant after a while. I love Alan's stuff pre Where Were You and even the new stuff is not that bad, but it is getting redundant. www.Memory was not good at all . And the covers album was a decent idea for him because he did some great songs and he is a true country artist and it showed in the arrangements. I really think he has come to a crossroads and really needs the time off. He will be welcome back with open arms whenever he decides to break and come back. bamafan - I have to agree with you. I'm a huge AJ fan - but even I have to admit he's had some songs that weren't up to his usual standards. I thought www.Memory was cute - but not as good as most of his other stuff. I love Midnight in Montgomery and a lot of the stuff he did then. Drive was a great cd and I like his latest What I Do - my favorite song there being Monday Morning Church. Not too thrilled with Talkin' Song Repair Blues - it was okay - but not a great AJ tune. I agree with you also that if he does take a break - for however long - he will be more than welcomed back with open arms. He is consitent, traditional country - and that's what true country fans appreciate.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 29, 2005 21:53:18 GMT -5
I agree about the "Who I Am" album, it is one of my favorites too. I also love his Drive album, that to me is great from start to finish. I think his 9/11 song spoke to a lot of people on what they were feeling, and it is my favorite from that time frame. Sure better than Toby's song, that is the one I couldn't stand. I have alot of repsect how Alan handle it, he was moved to write it, put it out there and then moved on. Toby to me did just the opposite, he made a career for a few years cashing in on that song, and going even farther with his Shock album. Alan is a living legend now and has his place in country music history and always will. I do agree his last album is a step down form some of his previous work, but there is also some great songs on the album including Monday Morning Church, don't kniw what happen with that one. I will always have a lot of respect for Alan and his music just was curious why his sales have dropped off and airplay. jacksonfan are you so filled with hate, rudeness that you can't read what is in front you. OPEN YOUR EYES READ WHAT I SAID ABOUT ALAN DOES THAT SOUND LIKE A PUTDOWN TO YOU. THAT IS YOU THAT ALWAYS HAS A SNIDE REMARKS. OPEN YOUR EYES AND READ. BTW I HAVE BELONGED TO HIS FANCLUB FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS, WOULD I SHELL OUT THAT MONEY TO SOMEONE I DIDN'T LIKE AND RESPECT. JJUST GOT MY SUMMER ISSUE OF HIS "REAL WORLD NEWS" LAST WEEK. SO CHILL PLEASE AND LAY OFF.
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Post by firedancer on Aug 30, 2005 1:36:14 GMT -5
A few posts up it was pointed out that Alan was great because he's so true to his roots and never went pop. I know this will always be an on-going debate, so I'm certainly not trying to change anyone's opinion, but I'd like to share mine...
I do not think staying true to your roots validates an artists' "greatness." I guess I just can't get my mind around why genres matter so much to fans? Can't it just be "good" or "bad"? Why aren't those the only categories? Of course, those categories are still subjective, but I just really get tired of fans putting down artists if they slip in other influences into their music besides traditional country. And, from what I can tell, it almost only happens in country music that people get so up-in-arms. Why can't one believe that Alan is great just because they think he's great? Why does it have to be because he's staying true to his roots?
Obviously, I point out AJ because it was posted recently in this thread. This is, of course, a pet peeve of mine across the board in country music. Ahhh... a load has been lifted. Thanks for letting me vent.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 30, 2005 1:51:52 GMT -5
A few posts up it was pointed out that Alan was great because he's so true to his roots and never went pop. I know this will always be an on-going debate, so I'm certainly not trying to change anyone's opinion, but I'd like to share mine... I do not think staying true to your roots validates an artists' "greatness." I guess I just can't get my mind around why genres matter so much to fans? Can't it just be "good" or "bad"? Why aren't those the only categories? Of course, those categories are still subjective, but I just really get tired of fans putting down artists if they slip in other influences into their music besides traditional country. And, from what I can tell, it almost only happens in country music that people get so up-in-arms. Why can't one believe that Alan is great just because they think he's great? Why does it have to be because he's staying true to his roots? Obviously, I point out AJ because it was posted recently in this thread. This is, of course, a pet peeve of mine across the board in country music. Ahhh... a load has been lifted. Thanks for letting me vent. EXCELLENT EXCELLENT POST! I agree 100% and it is not sticking to his roots that makes Alan so great. My favorite music is by far country but I can enjoy many types of music. I love the old R&B from the 60's, love jazz music and can even say I like a little rap. Categories mean nothing to me in determing my like or dislike of music and never has. I can enjoy many styles and it doesn't only have to be country to move me, make me laugh, cry or touch my soul.
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Post by jacksonfan on Aug 30, 2005 19:56:04 GMT -5
SO CHILL PLEASE AND LAY OFF. Back at ya! And please - stop shouting - I have a migraine from your posts as it is!
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Post by Perp on Aug 31, 2005 13:48:05 GMT -5
Oh, the irony of someone SHOUTING at people to chill out. Unreal. I've been trying to stay out of all the mud-throwing going on here, but a few bad apples behaving like children are ruining this board.
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Post by kyhomeg on Aug 31, 2005 17:29:44 GMT -5
jacksonfan do you want me to quote all the post you have made on this board with your shouting, it is mind boggling, so don't even go there.
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Post by bigbluenote on Aug 31, 2005 17:53:01 GMT -5
Ok, now, I'm not gonna be nice because it doesn't work (even though trying to end the madness never works). CAN YALL JUST SHUT UP!!!! TALK ABOUT THE TOPIC AND STOP ATTACKING EACHOTHER. This one happens to be about Alan Jackson. STOP ARGUING. And yes, I know I yelled, whoopdeedo.
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