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Post by Deleted on May 21, 2014 16:44:25 GMT -5
Yeah FGL preformed People Back Home on the ACM Tribute to the Troops and I've got to be honest and say I really like it. Brian Kelly has a good voice and the rap verses actually fit. I would bet this to be their next single unless they wait for the new album. They've already confirmed that "This Is How We Roll" is the last single from their debut album. They are recording their next album already (a bit more than halfway done) and it is tentatively schedule for a release in October, which would mean a lead single in July or early/mid August.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 22, 2014 9:46:16 GMT -5
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Post by jferstler on May 22, 2014 11:01:53 GMT -5
Some people just don't have good taste in music! Radio just doesn't like to play my kind of music... {Spoiler}
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Post by onebuffalo on May 22, 2014 18:16:56 GMT -5
Well, after two weeks at #2, is this the weekend where Florida Georgia Line/Luke Bryan replace Bryan at the top?
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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2014 18:33:35 GMT -5
Well, after two weeks at #2, is this the weekend where Florida Georgia Line/Luke Bryan replace Bryan at the top? "Play It Again" continues to out-gain "This Is How We Roll" in audience on Mediabase, so I don't see FGL getting to #1 on Billboard this week (I'm assuming "Play It Again" is tracking #1 on RTT, but the RTT website is down for me right now). Luke has almost 1.4 million more audience than FGL does on Mediabase, and yet FGL remains at #1, and is pulling away in the spins department. Thus, it would seem to me that the labels involved (Republic and Capitol) have decided to split the charts, with "This Is How We Roll" taking the Mediabase #1 and "Play It Again" getting a 2nd week at #1 on Billboard, despite no weeks at #1 on Mediabase yet. Spins seem to have a bigger affect on MB ranking whereas BB of course goes by audience, and FGL's team appears to be focusing more on spins while Luke's team is gaining more audience. And then perhaps for the weekend of June 1st they'll flip-flop? FGL #1 on BB but Luke #1 on MB? Miranda Lambert is co-hosting Lon Helton's countdown for the weekend of June 1, likely to coincide with the release of her album a few days later, but "Automatic" still seems too far behind to really challenge for #1 by then, especially if FGL/Luke and Luke are still gaining (or not falling very fast) a week from now; I think that, if "Automatic" does have a shot at #1, it would be for the week ending June 8. It seems odd to me that Republic might settle for a Mediabase-only #1, since BB (not MB) is the organization that has been mentioning the "5 straight #1's to open a career" record. I'm sure it will probably be a record on Mediabase as well, though, but I don't believe they've made any mention of it.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 22, 2014 18:35:45 GMT -5
Well, after two weeks at #2, is this the weekend where Florida Georgia Line/Luke Bryan replace Bryan at the top? "Play It Again" continues to out-gain "This Is How We Roll" in audience on Mediabase, so I don't see FGL getting to #1 on Billboard this week (I'm assuming "Play It Again" is tracking #1 on RTT, but the RTT website is down for me right now). Luke has almost 1.4 million more audience than FGL does on Mediabase, and yet FGL remains at #1, and is pulling away in the spins department. Thus, it would seem to me that the labels involved (Republic and Capitol) have decided to split the charts, with "This Is How We Roll" taking the Mediabase #1 and "Play It Again" getting a 2nd week at #1 on Billboard, despite no weeks at #1 on Mediabase yet. Spins seem to have a bigger affect on MB ranking whereas BB of course goes by audience, and FGL's team appears to be focusing more on spins while Luke's team is gaining more audience. And then perhaps for the weekend of June 1st they'll flip-flop? FGL #1 on BB but Luke #1 on MB? Miranda Lambert is co-hosting Lon Helton's countdown for the weekend of June 1, likely to coincide with the release of her album a few days later, but "Automatic" still seems too far behind to really challenge for #1 by then, especially if FGL/Luke and Luke are still gaining (or not falling very fast) a week from now; I think that, if "Automatic" does have a shot at #1, it would be for the week ending June 8. It seems odd to me that Republic might settle for a Mediabase-only #1, since BB (not MB) is the organization that has been mentioning the "5 straight #1's to open a career" record. I'm sure it will probably be a record on Mediabase as well, though, but I don't believe they've made any mention of it. Thanks.
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Post by dm2081 on May 22, 2014 22:35:46 GMT -5
If I had to bet, I think Luke will reign at #1 on BB for one more week, and then FLA-GA Line will get to #1 the week after. It would make no sense for Luke to block it from getting to #1 because he would only be costing himself another #1. I think it can hold out for one more week and get the #1 peak.
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Post by kanimal on May 23, 2014 8:36:17 GMT -5
If I had to bet, I think Luke will reign at #1 on BB for one more week, and then FLA-GA Line will get to #1 the week after. It would make no sense for Luke to block it from getting to #1 because he would only be costing himself another #1. I think it can hold out for one more week and get the #1 peak. Not even sure what this means...#1s are determined by sales/airplay/etc - not Luke Bryan's personal decision making.
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Post by dm2081 on May 23, 2014 8:43:04 GMT -5
If I had to bet, I think Luke will reign at #1 on BB for one more week, and then FLA-GA Line will get to #1 the week after. It would make no sense for Luke to block it from getting to #1 because he would only be costing himself another #1. I think it can hold out for one more week and get the #1 peak. Not even sure what this means...#1s are determined by sales/airplay/etc - not Luke Bryan's personal decision making. His label can choose to push this song for more spins at radio stations, trying to increase the songs rotation, or they could choose to let it fall some. This is more the behind the scenes type of work.
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Post by Markus Meyer on May 24, 2014 17:18:35 GMT -5
While Luke is looking like he'll get #1 on both charts, FGL is still a fair bit ahead of Brett and Miranda so I'm betting that they'll wait out Luke and get to #1 on both charts.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 18:23:31 GMT -5
While Luke is looking like he'll get #1 on both charts, FGL is still a fair bit ahead of Brett and Miranda so I'm betting that they'll wait out Luke and get to #1 on both charts. That's definitely possible, but the one thing that causes me to hesitate is that FGL is already at astronomical levels of airplay. I honestly can't see TIHWR still adding spins/audience even 5 days from now (it actually had a very small dip today already, while Luke put up a massive spin and strong audience gain). I think it's going to be tough for FGL to thread the needle here, and what I mean by that is, can they 'rise' up to #1 even if this song is losing audience? To do that, they would need to have Luke's song fall faster and would also have to stay in front of both Brett and Miranda, and we can assume that Brett and Miranda will still be posting gains while FGL will be posting losses next week. IF they can manage another bullet (and that's a big IF), this might be able to last long enough to eek out a #1 at the end of next week. But if Tuesday's chart is their last with a bullet, I think it's going to be almost impossible for them to get to #1, mainly because it's unlikely that "Play It Again" will drop any faster than TIHWR will. This isn't all that dissimilar to what happened a couple years back with "We Owned The Night" and "Keep Me In Mind" holding "Tattoos On This Town" to a #2 peak (though Jason was also hurt by the fact that it was December, when record companies--in that case, BBR--find it more difficult to sway the playlists in their favor). Or you could go back even further, to when "Live Like You Were Dying" kept "I Go Back" from #1, even though both songs were the biggest hits in a multi-year period...they just happened to peak at the same time. And of course in this situation, we're not looking at a 7-week #1 a la "Live Like You Were Dying". Still, "Play It Again" could get 3-4 weeks at #1 on Billboard, though, leaving FGL to a #2 peak at both charts despite audience levels that 99% of the time would net a #1 peak.
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Post by sabre14 on May 24, 2014 18:33:07 GMT -5
While Luke is looking like he'll get #1 on both charts, FGL is still a fair bit ahead of Brett and Miranda so I'm betting that they'll wait out Luke and get to #1 on both charts. That's definitely possible, but the one thing that causes me to hesitate is that FGL is already at astronomical levels of airplay. I honestly can't see TIHWR still adding spins/audience even 5 days from now (it actually had a very small dip today already, while Luke put up a massive spin and strong audience gain). I think it's going to be tough for FGL to thread the needle here, and what I mean by that is, can they 'rise' up to #1 even if this song is losing audience? To do that, they would need to have Luke's song fall faster and would also have to stay in front of both Brett and Miranda, and we can assume that Brett and Miranda will still be posting gains while FGL will be posting losses next week. IF they can manage another bullet (and that's a big IF), this might be able to last long enough to eek out a #1 at the end of next week. But if Tuesday's chart is their last with a bullet, I think it's going to be almost impossible for them to get to #1, mainly because it's unlikely that "Play It Again" will drop any faster than TIHWR will. This isn't all that dissimilar to what happened a couple years back with "We Owned The Night" and "Keep Me In Mind" holding "Tattoos On This Town" to a #2 peak (though Jason was also hurt by the fact that it was December, when record companies--in that case, BBR--find it more difficult to sway the playlists in their favor). Or you could go back even further, to when "Live Like You Were Dying" kept "I Go Back" from #1, even though both songs were the biggest hits in a multi-year period...they just happened to peak at the same time. And of course in this situation, we're not looking at a 7-week #1 a la "Live Like You Were Dying". Still, "Play It Again" could get 3-4 weeks at #1 on Billboard, though, leaving FGL to a #2 peak at both charts despite audience levels that 99% of the time would net a #1 peak. This is exactly what I was thinking. The only flaw with these labels trying to push hard and try to manipulate the charts with such increased levels of spins is most of the time, those songs can't maintain those astronomical numbers like you said. I really think it's going to ask a lot of BMLG to get this #1 next week. 7700 spins and nearly 58 million in audience on Mediabase is super difficult to hold for a 7 day period. It certainly depends on how Brett and Miranda do over the next 7 days. I'm not counting FGL out of the #1 race (even though I'd love to call my shot now) but if they do get there, they might actually have to truly earn it this time.
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Post by Deleted on May 24, 2014 18:40:57 GMT -5
One thing I forgot to mention...I'm actually a bit surprised at how things are playing out here. I would've thought that radio would want to give both songs time in the sun. To me, this week seemed like FGL's best (and perhaps only) shot, whereas Luke's song could've held back a little bit and let FGL get the MB #1 (Luke would've still got a 2nd week at #1 on BB). Luke's song is several weeks younger (not that TIHWR is old, though), too.
Furthermore, Big Loud Mountain & Republic Nashville put out a huge "Max Spins Now" and "thank you" ad for FGL in both the Billboard and Aircheck charts on Monday, with separate personalized videos from both Brian and Tyler. There was a full-page ad for "Play It Again" in the BCU as well but it wasn't as personable as the FGL one was, and so I just thought radio would keep TIHWR just ahead of PIA (again, at least on MB) through this weekend before decreasing airplay for FGL next week and allowing Luke to go unopposed to #1 on both charts next week, that way both songs could be official #1's, even if TIHWR went #1 on only Mediabase.
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Post by kml567 on May 25, 2014 16:17:23 GMT -5
FGL is doing a pop-remix with Jason Derulo. Get ready for 20 weeks #1 on Billboard HCS chart. Likely another top 10 pop radio hit like "Cruise".
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Post by jferstler on May 25, 2014 18:54:05 GMT -5
FGL is doing a pop-remix with Jason Derulo. Get ready for 20 weeks #1 on Billboard HCS chart. Likely another top 10 pop radio hit like "Cruise". Jason Derulo @jasonderulo · May 24 This is how we roooooollll... #comingsoon #countrymusic #whynot #wigglewigglewiggle {My reaction when I read your post:}
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Post by dm2081 on May 25, 2014 19:32:22 GMT -5
FGL is doing a pop-remix with Jason Derulo. Get ready for 20 weeks #1 on Billboard HCS chart. Likely another top 10 pop radio hit like "Cruise". Jason Derulo @jasonderulo · May 24 This is how we roooooollll... #comingsoon #countrymusic #whynot #wigglewigglewiggle Please let this be a joke, or not fall through. I love FLA GA Line, but Jason Derulo is the worst. I didn't hate the Nelly remix like many did, but why on earth are they trying so hard to impress the pop crowd? They already had one of the top selling albums last year, all of their singles sell really well digitally. This is stupid. Adding a rapper for a remix is one thing, at least its unique, but a pop star? Wow I hope I never have to hear this remix.
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Post by zjames on May 25, 2014 19:52:23 GMT -5
I don't get why they need to make a remix at all. The song already has some rap and hip-hop elements that would suit it for a pop push anyway.
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Post by sabre14 on May 25, 2014 19:55:27 GMT -5
I don't get why they need to make a remix at all. The song already has some rap and hip-hop elements that would suit it for a pop push anyway. Maybe they want someone who can actually rap....
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Post by .indulgecountry on May 25, 2014 20:06:05 GMT -5
I don't get why they need to make a remix at all. The song already has some rap and hip-hop elements that would suit it for a pop push anyway. Maybe they want someone who can actually rap.... Well, Jason Derulo doesn't rap either. He's a pop singer.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2014 20:11:20 GMT -5
Well given the fact that this song is about 1% country to begin with, I don't see why they wouldn't try to cater to a radio format with many listeners that are probably already big FGL fans. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if only about half of FGL's fans are strictly country fans, whereas the rest of the consumers for their album and singles are primarily pop fans but like the occasional "country" act (notably Luke and FGL).
Jason Derulo is going to have a more recent #1 on Hot Country Songs than George Strait will, unless Billboard chooses to not credit him like they did with Nelly. I hate the new chart, but at least give the artists credit. Not crediting Nelly for the huge reign of "Cruise" is basically Billboard saying "we realized this new chart is ridiculous and having Nelly spend a dozen weeks at #1 isn't what we wanted to accomplish nor does it make much sense on a country chart, but we can't change the chart again so we'll just have to cover up this travesty".
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Post by sabre14 on May 25, 2014 20:15:39 GMT -5
Maybe they want someone who can actually rap.... Well, Jason Derulo doesn't rap either. He's a pop singer. Shows how much I follow the pop genre. This really shouldn't surprise many though. BMLG just sees another opportunity to capitalize on their popularity. Perhaps if "Cruise" didn't work out, they wouldn't bother with their time and resources.
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Post by Marv on May 25, 2014 20:34:42 GMT -5
There's far too much pseudo-rap at country radio as it is going back at least to 'Dirt Road Anthem' so the lasst thing the format needs is another rapper polluting the format; rap music is a major turnoff for the format's core audiences (Women 35-54, Women 25-54 and Adults 25-54), and deliberately alienating your audience is most definitely not the objective of any MD or PD who wishes to remain employed.
The format can certainly cheer about solid-to-HUGE 12-24, 18-34 and 25-54 numbers in every one of our 50-75 largest cities and/or markets with the exception of Los Angeles, although KKGO has monster cume numbers.
I also think that any rapper appearing on any 'bro-country' tune is pretty pointless since we all know what a farce BB's 'mongrel' chart is and has been since the day it was introduced.
I don't see any reason why FGL can't be #1 @ Mediabase by the end of this week, since I do expect Luke's tune to start tumbling on Tuesday and lose a minimum of 400 spins this week (Thomas Rhett lost over 700 after he reached the penthouse, so my guess could be somewhat conservative) which will pave the way for FGL to easily rise to #1 @ Mediabase next week, even if they do start losing spins at a very moderate pace while still staying ahead of Brett & Miranda through the end of the week.
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Post by sabre14 on May 26, 2014 15:00:07 GMT -5
I don't see any reason why FGL can't be #1 @ Mediabase by the end of this week, since I do expect Luke's tune to start tumbling on Tuesday and lose a minimum of 400 spins this week (Thomas Rhett lost over 700 after he reached the penthouse, so my guess could be somewhat conservative) which will pave the way for FGL to easily rise to #1 @ Mediabase next week, even if they do start losing spins at a very moderate pace while still staying ahead of Brett & Miranda through the end of the week. Right now if I had to call it, I'd say that FGL will be #1 on MB by the end of this week but I'm not about to guarantee it. Their audience and spin level is really high right now with a 7600 plus in the spin department and 58 million in the audience department. Plus they have been stuck at #2 and in the top 5 for 6 weeks now. It all really depends on how Brett and Miranda fare over the next 5 days. The spins difference might be too much to overtake FGL at this point, but I still think there's a chance that "This Is How We Roll" could go bulletless. They had their power up and max spins now add put in this past week on Country Aircheck and Billboard, and the fact they are leveling off makes me think that they might have peaked already. This all depends on how much Brett and Miranda can pick up the pace. FGL could still edge them out without a bullet and I don't suspect them to freefall by any means, but I'm not 100% sold on them being #1 come this weekend. But again, I would pick them to do so If I had to but I say that with caution.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2014 15:41:36 GMT -5
They had their power up and max spins now add put in this past week on Country Aircheck and Billboard, and the fact they are leveling off makes me think that they might have peaked already. They already had this ad out in Billboard back on Monday the 12th, as well: ...which is why I thought Republic Nashville would focus hard on the Billboard #1 for last week's charts, even though they were allowing for Rascal Flatts' "Rewind" to steal the Mediabase #1. But "Play It Again" won the Billboard race by about 500k last week and now Luke's gotten a 2nd week at #1 on BB, and the gap will be bigger this time too. So, back-to-back weeks of "going for #1" ads out in Billboard already, as well as a "max spins" ad in Mediabase last week Monday the 19th. Will we see a 3rd consecutive "going for #1" ad in tomorrow's Billboard update? If not, radio might still know/assume that Republic will keep trying for one more week to get this an official #1 peak, but I'm not so sure that Luke's team won't want to hang on to #1, nor am I sure that FGL can keep their bullet through the end of this week. Plus, PIA has probably the best chance of getting 3 or even 4 weeks at #1 that we've seen in a while...I don't think it'll be a 4-weeker but there's a chance.
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Post by sabre14 on May 27, 2014 12:44:32 GMT -5
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Artist Title Tw Lw Move Audience Florida Georgia Line - This Is How We Roll 7539 7569 -30 57.624
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Post by onebuffalo on May 28, 2014 12:23:47 GMT -5
If Florida Georgia Line/Luke Bryan peak at #2 on BOTH charts, could someone tell me when the last time that happened? Thanks.
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Post by sabre14 on May 28, 2014 13:11:40 GMT -5
If Florida Georgia Line/Luke Bryan peak at #2 on BOTH charts, could someone tell me when the last time that happened? Thanks. "Cowboys And Angels" - Dustin Lynch (2012) Mediabase Peak: #2 Billboard Peak: #2
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Post by onebuffalo on May 28, 2014 13:12:23 GMT -5
If Florida Georgia Line/Luke Bryan peak at #2 on BOTH charts, could someone tell me when the last time that happened? Thanks. "Cowboys And Angels" - Dustin Lynch (2012) Mediabase Peak: #2 Billboard Peak: #2 Thanks. You're the greatest!
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2014 16:39:56 GMT -5
I don't see any reason why FGL can't be #1 @ Mediabase by the end of this week, since I do expect Luke's tune to start tumbling on Tuesday and lose a minimum of 400 spins this week (Thomas Rhett lost over 700 after he reached the penthouse, so my guess could be somewhat conservative) which will pave the way for FGL to easily rise to #1 @ Mediabase next week, even if they do start losing spins at a very moderate pace while still staying ahead of Brett & Miranda through the end of the week. Like I thought, this is going to miss out on #1. It loses 80 spins and more than half a mil in audience on MB today. They simply spent too much time at #2 (three consecutive weeks) on Billboard and too many weeks in the top 5. They have nearly 2 million more in audience this week than Luke did last week (his first week at #1), but the fact that the two songs were put into 'ultra' power rotation at the same time meant only one of them could get to #1, unless they wound up trading places, but that's not going to be the case. Thus, FGL is unable to set the record of scoring 5 straight #1's to start a career. Instead, it's 4 straight #1's and a #2.
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