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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2005 18:04:25 GMT -5
The CMA does allow an artist to be nominated up to two times for the Horizon Award. A good example I can think of is Travis Tritt. He was nominated in 1990 and lost to Garth, but then won 1991's Horizon Award. I have a lot of respect for Horizon winners, but it's definitely not a prerequisite for a successful career. George Strait, Alan Jackson, Tim McGraw, and Brooks & Dunn never won the Horizon award but have proven to be some of the biggest artists in all of country music. Yeah. I just looked at the history of the Horizon category. Even Shania was nominated two years in a row for the Horizon award. In 1995, she lost to Alison Krauss. In 1996, she lost to Bryan White. I would say Shania got the better end of the deal though. Also, my point about the Horizon award remains. I think it's foolish to call the award a "Horizon award" and then allow the same people to be nominated twice for it. This year, there are three repeat nominees. That's just ridiculous, imo.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 7, 2005 19:16:28 GMT -5
The Horizion Award isn't just for totally new artists. I guess you could also call it the Most Improved Award....they also consider newER artists that have shown the most growth as well....NOT just brand spankin' new artists.
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Post by bigbluenote on Sept 7, 2005 19:35:36 GMT -5
The Horizion Award isn't just for totally new artists. I guess you could also call it the Most Improved Award....they also consider newER artists that have shown the most growth as well....NOT just brand spankin' new artists. I did not know that. Thanks for clarifying. Now it makes more sense.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 7, 2005 19:51:28 GMT -5
The Horizion Award isn't just for totally new artists. I guess you could also call it the Most Improved Award....they also consider newER artists that have shown the most growth as well....NOT just brand spankin' new artists. I did not know that. Thanks for clarifying. Now it makes more sense. You are quite welcome.
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Post by Zach on Sept 7, 2005 20:20:49 GMT -5
The Horizion Award isn't just for totally new artists. I guess you could also call it the Most Improved Award....they also consider newER artists that have shown the most growth as well....NOT just brand spankin' new artists. Now that you put it that way, Dierks Bentley will get Horizion this year. I thought for sure that Sugarland would get it. Although Miranda Lambert or Julie Roberts deserve it.
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Post by bigbluenote on Sept 7, 2005 20:28:17 GMT -5
I think Miranda and Sugarland deserves it much more than Dierks Bentley. But, you're right, Dierks Bentley will get it.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Sept 7, 2005 20:32:56 GMT -5
it still seems strange to me having the cma's in ny even though ny does not have a country radio station...maybe they are doing it to try and get a station to flip formats to country and then sell even more cd's here.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 7, 2005 21:21:21 GMT -5
I think Sugarland is going to walk away with it.
As for my definition, it doesn't necessarily mean that the "most imroved" always wins it. Shania was prob more popular the 2nd time she was nominated and she still didn't win.
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Post by Bigchief on Sept 7, 2005 23:36:39 GMT -5
So - let me preface this by saying that I'm pretty bummed by some of these nominations. Especially by the Song Of The Year category. Are voters really saying that "As Good As I Once Was", "Redneck Woman" and "Alcohol" were the best songs that Country Music had to offer this year? Really - Are these lyrically light tunes even deserving to be in the mst important category of every year? I - for one - am appalled by it. I could understand them being in the Single of The Year category, but is Redneck Woman really the SONG OF THE FREAKING YEAR? All I have to say is BLOCK VOTE
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Post by Marv on Sept 8, 2005 10:50:10 GMT -5
Ms. Womack has a chance in at least four major categories; Album, Single & Song of the Year, and Best Female Vocalist.
There are undoubtedly TONS of country PDs who must be VERY humuliated that they ignored her single, easily her best single in several years.
I have no idea why "redneck Woman' is nominated for anything this year; didn't she win a couple of awards at LAST year's CMA show?
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Post by Love4Shania on Sept 8, 2005 11:34:38 GMT -5
Well I won't be watching this year. ...unless Shania attends, then I will only tune in for her part.
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Post by someguy on Sept 8, 2005 21:44:23 GMT -5
Same old, same old with this year's nominees (as usual). The biggest surprise was Alison Krauss being nominated for both FV and VG. Shouldn't she be one or the other? It's the same body of work getting nominated for both. And I'll agree that SHeDAISY's omission is ridiculous. It's almost laughable that Diamond Rio made the cut over them. Overall, another predictable and bland list of nominees.
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Post by KMCB on Sept 8, 2005 21:46:10 GMT -5
Yawn. There are never surprises anymore... except how far up their rear ends these voters reach to come up with nominations! At least there is finally an actual line-up in the dup category (poor Bellany Bros). Montgomery Gentry and B&R will split the vote, I'm sure... and B&D will win yet again.
Shedaisy gets screwed, again.
Tim McGraw not being nominated for male vocalist or entertainer is ludicrous.
ENOUGH with Redneck Woman and Whiskey Lullaby. It's the same thing they did with Man of Constant Sorrow.
And seriously... I adore Martina, but her being there over Terri Clark & Jo Dee? I also love Alison Krauss, but in group and female? I know she does a lot of side projects, but this category just... kinda sucks this year. I hope Sara will win but I really doubt it.
These used to excite me. Now they just baffle and bore. Maybe the performances will be good?
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 8, 2005 22:10:41 GMT -5
Tim McGraw not being nominated for male vocalist or entertainer is ludicrous. Maybe that means the voters woke up and discovered he has NO voice whatsoever.
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Post by bigbluenote on Sept 8, 2005 22:25:54 GMT -5
Tim McGraw not being nominated for male vocalist or entertainer is ludicrous. Maybe that means the voters woke up and discovered he has NO voice whatsoever. LMAO. Not 'Maybe'. Voters FINALLY woke up. Oh oh oh, AND Faith didn't get nominated for anything either. I am happy. All is right with the world.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 9, 2005 0:31:32 GMT -5
Maybe that means the voters woke up and discovered he has NO voice whatsoever. LMAO. Not 'Maybe'. Voters FINALLY woke up. Oh oh oh, AND Faith didn't get nominated for anything either. I am happy. All is right with the world. LOL.....u nailed that one.
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Post by OhMan0810 on Sept 9, 2005 7:11:16 GMT -5
Diamond Rio 15th consecutive year that Rio has been nominated for Group of the Year, most in history of the CMA's for a group. Now I like when they brake records. Yeahoo...
Oh and the video is playing on GAC it's called 'In God We Still Trust', now just to get Radio to play this great song and for them to SING it at the CMA's now that would be Awsome big time.
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Post by mbgriffith1 on Sept 9, 2005 11:45:01 GMT -5
Tim McGraw not being nominated for male vocalist or entertainer is ludicrous. Maybe that means the voters woke up and discovered he has NO voice whatsoever. I doubt they actually did discover this; but I pray they did. I am sick of him being nominated for everything when he is nothing more than good marketing. His marketing team should win all of his awards.
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Post by dcowboy77 on Sept 9, 2005 13:17:13 GMT -5
with all the tim talk how come kyhomeg didnt chime in yet...did she quit the board ?
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Post by bigbluenote on Sept 9, 2005 13:46:00 GMT -5
with all the tim talk how come kyhomeg didnt chime in yet...did she quit the board ? She got banned. If you look at the members list on the top of the screen, her name isn't listed there.
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Post by KMCB on Sept 10, 2005 12:31:17 GMT -5
I think I have been around here long enough that most *reasonable* people recognize me as one of their kind. Tim McGraw has talent. He is not simply a product of marketing and sex appeal. He might not be as pure country as George or Alan (both whom I like) or have the pipes of Ronnie Dunn, but he is a quality artist. He has now joined the ranks of people like Reba McEntire whose success outside of Nashville deems them too cocky or 'above their raisin'.' That's all I am saying about it.
Moving on, these awards seem to be getting more and more irrelevant. Look at the song category. All the songs that were released over a year, and that's the best they could do? There is no originality in these categories. It is a Nashville insider's popularity contest. I love Diamond Rio, but why on earth are they nominated above Shedaisy or even Trick Pony? I like George Strait, but did he really have a stellar year? Dierks Bentley had a better year. Where is Phil Vassar, one of the best writers and performers we have? Where is Jo Dee Messina? None of these are necessarily my favorites, but I am not so dim that I don't think they deserve the kudos. On my awards show, Trisha Yearwood and Montgomery Gentry would always win, but that really isn't what it's about. The workers and movers in country music only get awarded if they manage to figure out what the secret formula is.
And finally... Go, Sara, go!
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Post by cari2521 on Sept 11, 2005 6:48:10 GMT -5
These nominations are just kind of sad. It's always the same people. There aren't any females deserving of being in the Entertainer of the Year category? How about nods for Blaine Larsen and Bobby Pinson in the Horizon category rather than nominate 3 of the same people again? (While I love Julie, I know there's no way she's going to take it). AJ's gorgeous "Monday Morning Church" is ignored. Craig Morgan's 5-week #1 "What I Love About Sundays" definitely could have received a nod in the single category. So many omissions...Would it really hurt to try and spread these nods out a little bit more? I know a lot of it is probably politics, but as a fan, it's a bit boring.
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Post by Zazie on Sept 11, 2005 8:30:25 GMT -5
with all the tim talk how come kyhomeg didnt chime in yet...did she quit the board ? She got banned. If you look at the members list on the top of the screen, her name isn't listed there. Was she nominated for "banned of the year"? I wonder who the others would be in this often-overlooked category.
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Post by Marv on Sept 11, 2005 22:38:51 GMT -5
I was hoping that having BY FAR the biggest single by a female this year would get Jo Dee Messina nominated for best female vocalist and/oror song of the year.
Oh, well........
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 11, 2005 23:09:33 GMT -5
I was hoping that having BY FAR the biggest single by a female this year would get Jo Dee Messina nominated for best female vocalist and/or song of the year. Oh, well........ What the heck single you talking about???
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Post by Lee on Sept 11, 2005 23:13:22 GMT -5
I was hoping that having BY FAR the biggest single by a female this year would get Jo Dee Messina nominated for best female vocalist and/or song of the year. Oh, well........ What the heck single you talking about??? They probaly mean't "My Give A Damn's Busted", which was a number one song for a couple weeks, simultaneously with her new album located at the summit of the country albums chart.
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Post by bamafan2102 on Sept 12, 2005 2:04:12 GMT -5
I am so glad that Brad is finally getting some nominations.I am sure he won't win any this year(the big ones) but his name won't be coming off of those catagories for a while, so he will have plenty of time to win one. I can't believe that Tim didn't get in for the male vocalist. It really dosen't matter to me but just seems odd. Also I can't belive Phil Vassar continues to get snubbed. I am hoping for a great year for him so maybe next year he will get some nods. Shedaisy not getting in for group is terrible. More comments later.
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Post by sbp17 on Sept 12, 2005 5:12:34 GMT -5
I'm a Reba fan so obviously I've been disappointed with CMA nominations for some time, especially with her recent success; however, I hate it when people throw around the word "rigged" or similar terms just because their favorites don't get nominations. It's not as if there's hanging chads or electronic malfunctions. It's a group of people in the country music industry that vote on these nominations. It's not an easy process to "rig".
Having said that, probably the biggest surprise is not seeing SHeDAISY nominated and I'm not a SHeDAISY fan (well, not since their debut disc).
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 12, 2005 18:11:59 GMT -5
I'm a Reba fan so obviously I've been disappointed with CMA nominations for some time, especially with her recent success; however, I hate it when people throw around the word "rigged" or similar terms just because their favorites don't get nominations. It's not as if there's hanging chads or electronic malfunctions. It's a group of people in the country music industry that vote on these nominations. It's not an easy process to "rig". Having said that, probably the biggest surprise is not seeing SHeDAISY nominated and I'm not a SHeDAISY fan (well, not since their debut disc). Sweet Right Here is EASILY their best cd. Not sure I can really see them topping it, but who knows?
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Post by jond7699 on Sept 12, 2005 19:16:02 GMT -5
I think of all the awards shows this is one of them that means the least. I mean how can the same songs be nominated two years in a row. And how bout that Horizon award. That is a joke. You should get one shot for it.
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