Jim King
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Post by Jim King on Sept 9, 2005 20:44:53 GMT -5
The Chicks, Garth, and Trisha, oh my. I wonder who picked the artists for this show? Did they have to have a connection to the Gulf Coast? It felt like the 90's all over again.
Wow, that Natalie Maines can sing!
~ Jim
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Post by anitabakerfan on Sept 10, 2005 11:03:31 GMT -5
Garth and Trisha were awesome....now if Garth would just distant himself from that evil Walmart....I might remember why I like him so much.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 10, 2005 19:17:22 GMT -5
The Chicks, Garth, and Trisha, oh my. I wonder who picked the artists for this show? Did they have to have a connection to the Gulf Coast? It felt like the 90's all over again. Wow, that Natalie Maines can sing! ~ Jim Imo, the only qualification for being at one of these "charity" concerts is one thing: Willingness to show up for some great promotion. This is, what, the 10th charity concert? 20th? Once again, the line-up was filled with celebrities who were obviously there for other reasons than "helping." The three artists you listed [Chicks, Trisha, & Garth] just so happen to be making comebacks, or at least comeback attempts. Coincidence? Along with many others, Gretchen is also obviously there for promotion. Her album comes out on Tuesday. Another coincidence? The same goes for people like Sheryl Crow. I just read that she performed her new single from her new album on the latest Katrina concert. It's all promotion. Sadly, the concerts are nothing more than promo tools. None of what I said matters though. The number of these concerts/telethons will just continue to grow. It's great promotion. No doubt. That's what about 99% of the artists, and their labels, are counting on. I just feel sorry for the Katrina victims. They're being used for promotion more than the victims and families of the September 11 attacks. Just disgusting.
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Post by anitabakerfan on Sept 10, 2005 20:51:33 GMT -5
I disagree 100 %
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Post by That Skipping Rope. on Sept 10, 2005 21:16:25 GMT -5
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Post by bigbluenote on Sept 10, 2005 21:30:56 GMT -5
I agree 100%. As I said in another thread. This is a cheap marketing tool. But if it works, it works, I guess.
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Post by J.T. on Sept 10, 2005 23:18:36 GMT -5
Gretchen didn't peform. I was only out of the room for a few minutes but I'm pretty sure she didn't make it
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2005 0:24:51 GMT -5
Gretchen didn't peform. I was only out of the room for a few minutes but I'm pretty sure she didn't make it Interesting. She was promoted as being one of the participants. If you're right and she wasn't there, then my comments about her using the concert/telethon for publicity were off target. My comments about those that did and will participate in these concerts remain the same.
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Post by Zach on Sept 11, 2005 1:07:43 GMT -5
Country music and the Grand Ole Opry are doing their part to help out the relief efforts and the Red Cross. On September 27, the Grand Ole Opry and GAC will hold a special event that will air LIVE on GAC starting at 9 PM EST. The event itself will start though at 8 PM EST. I will be attending this event and I am very excited to be a part of it. Alan Jackson, Keith Urban, Alison Krauss, Terri Clark, LeAnn Rimes, Craig Morgan, Marty Stuart, Julie Roberts, Billy Currington, and Riders in the Sky are the first of what is expected to be many to sign on to be a part of this special event.
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Post by firedancer on Sept 11, 2005 1:45:08 GMT -5
The Chicks, Garth, and Trisha, oh my. I wonder who picked the artists for this show? Did they have to have a connection to the Gulf Coast? It felt like the 90's all over again. Wow, that Natalie Maines can sing! ~ Jim Imo, the only qualification for being at one of these "charity" concerts is one thing: Willingness to show up for some great promotion. This is, what, the 10th charity concert? 20th? Once again, the line-up was filled with celebrities who were obviously there for other reasons than "helping." The three artists you listed [Chicks, Trisha, & Garth] just so happen to be making comebacks, or at least comeback attempts. Coincidence? Along with many others, Gretchen is also obviously there for promotion. Her album comes out on Tuesday. Another coincidence? The same goes for people like Sheryl Crow. I just read that she performed her new single from her new album on the latest Katrina concert. It's all promotion. Sadly, the concerts are nothing more than promo tools. None of what I said matters though. The number of these concerts/telethons will just continue to grow. It's great promotion. No doubt. That's what about 99% of the artists, and their labels, are counting on. I just feel sorry for the Katrina victims. They're being used for promotion more than the victims and families of the September 11 attacks. Just disgusting. It also just so happens that all of the artists who participated are some of the The biggest stars in music... period. Come on. Even if it is for publicity, they're attracting a bigger crowd than Darrel Worley or Miranda Lambert (just picked those off the top of my head) ever would to watch the telethon who may not otherwise contribute to the cause.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2005 13:52:19 GMT -5
It also just so happens that all of the artists who participated are some of the The biggest stars in music... period. Come on. Even if it is for publicity, they're attracting a bigger crowd than Darrel Worley or Miranda Lambert (just picked those off the top of my head) ever would to watch the telethon who may not otherwise contribute to the cause. I don't care if they're BIG stars or not. Stars of any[/B] level, whether it's the 'Garth Brooks level' or the 'Miranda Lambert level', should not be using the Katrina tragedy for PR. That is exactly what 99% of them are doing. The fact that they're bringing in the audience numbers, which is what you stated in your post, is rather sad, imo. If seeing Sheryl Crow, or anyone else, perform their new singles on one of these shows is what it takes for a person, or people, to open their wallets...that's pathetic. It shouldn't take an appearance by Garth, the Dixie Chicks, Alan, Tim, Faith, Kanye West, Sheryl Crow, Kid Rock, or any other star on some staged PR Concert show to get people to make a contribution to a charity.The stars that participate in these things know what the game is. It's great promotion. Why do you think there are so many of them? Why not just have one big one instead of a dozen small ones? Imo, if one of these concerts has to be done, there should just be one concert. There should be Rules to go along with the concert. The main rule, or pretty much the only rule, is that all of the stars that appear have to donate at least $ 1 million to the cause that the "charity" concert is for. If you don't donate, no promo spot on the show. $ 1 million is nothing to most of the celebs on the telethons/concerts anyway. My point: There are big differences between quietly supporting a cause by donating or just drawing attention to a cause VS what these concerts are being used for. As I've said before, imo, it's PR. Simple as that. End of rant....# 50 (?)....on this subject.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2005 13:55:29 GMT -5
I agree 100%. As I said in another thread. This is a cheap marketing tool. But if it works, it works, I guess. Thank you! :) That's exactly what I have been saying.
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Post by musicbuff78 on Sept 11, 2005 16:26:02 GMT -5
It also just so happens that all of the artists who participated are some of the The biggest stars in music... period. Come on. Even if it is for publicity, they're attracting a bigger crowd than Darrel Worley or Miranda Lambert (just picked those off the top of my head) ever would to watch the telethon who may not otherwise contribute to the cause. I don't care if they're BIG stars or not. Stars of any[/B] level, whether it's the 'Garth Brooks level' or the 'Miranda Lambert level', should not be using the Katrina tragedy for PR. That is exactly what 99% of them are doing. The fact that they're bringing in the audience numbers, which is what you stated in your post, is rather sad, imo. If seeing Sheryl Crow, or anyone else, perform their new singles on one of these shows is what it takes for a person, or people, to open their wallets...that's pathetic. It shouldn't take an appearance by Garth, the Dixie Chicks, Alan, Tim, Faith, Kanye West, Sheryl Crow, Kid Rock, or any other star on some staged PR Concert show to get people to make a contribution to a charity.The stars that participate in these things know what the game is. It's great promotion. Why do you think there are so many of them? Why not just have one big one instead of a dozen small ones? Imo, if one of these concerts has to be done, there should just be one concert. There should be Rules to go along with the concert. The main rule, or pretty much the only rule, is that all of the stars that appear have to donate at least $ 1 million to the cause that the "charity" concert is for. If you don't donate, no promo spot on the show. $ 1 million is nothing to most of the celebs on the telethons/concerts anyway. My point: There are big differences between quietly supporting a cause by donating or just drawing attention to a cause VS what these concerts are being used for. As I've said before, imo, it's PR. Simple as that. End of rant....# 50 (?)....on this subject. [/quote] Feel better???? CHRIST!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2005 16:47:59 GMT -5
Yes. :) Thank you for asking. ;)
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Post by firedancer on Sept 12, 2005 11:25:36 GMT -5
It also just so happens that all of the artists who participated are some of the The biggest stars in music... period. Come on. Even if it is for publicity, they're attracting a bigger crowd than Darrel Worley or Miranda Lambert (just picked those off the top of my head) ever would to watch the telethon who may not otherwise contribute to the cause. I don't care if they're BIG stars or not. Stars of any[/B] level, whether it's the 'Garth Brooks level' or the 'Miranda Lambert level', should not be using the Katrina tragedy for PR. That is exactly what 99% of them are doing. The fact that they're bringing in the audience numbers, which is what you stated in your post, is rather sad, imo. If seeing Sheryl Crow, or anyone else, perform their new singles on one of these shows is what it takes for a person, or people, to open their wallets...that's pathetic. It shouldn't take an appearance by Garth, the Dixie Chicks, Alan, Tim, Faith, Kanye West, Sheryl Crow, Kid Rock, or any other star on some staged PR Concert show to get people to make a contribution to a charity.The stars that participate in these things know what the game is. It's great promotion. Why do you think there are so many of them? Why not just have one big one instead of a dozen small ones? Imo, if one of these concerts has to be done, there should just be one concert. There should be Rules to go along with the concert. The main rule, or pretty much the only rule, is that all of the stars that appear have to donate at least $ 1 million to the cause that the "charity" concert is for. If you don't donate, no promo spot on the show. $ 1 million is nothing to most of the celebs on the telethons/concerts anyway. My point: There are big differences between quietly supporting a cause by donating or just drawing attention to a cause VS what these concerts are being used for. As I've said before, imo, it's PR. Simple as that. End of rant....# 50 (?)....on this subject. [/quote] It just seems that your more important point is what you mentioned above when you said "The fact that they're bringing in the audience numbers, which is what you stated in your post, is rather sad, imo. If seeing Sheryl Crow, or anyone else, perform their new singles on one of these shows is what it takes for a person, or people, to open their wallets...that's pathetic." I agree... that is pathetic, but rant about the American public, not about stars who were invited to do all of these concerts. By the way, I did not watch the VH1/MTV/CMT concert, but the Sheryl Crow song that I heard on the other televised concert was a beautiful and appropriate James Taylor cover, which I don't believe is her single (could be wrong, though). I just think that you're getting your points confused. There are two points here: you think the stars doing these types of concerts is a PR stunt... understandable and even very possible. But from your post, it seems you also think it's sad that the American people (and overseas, I suppose) may not give as much, or at all, without star power pushing them along to do so. I think that last point is much more sad, but a good enough reason to keep these concerts going, especially is there really is demand for them. Also, I think it's really ridiculous to think that these stars did not financially contribute. And putting a rule in place? no one tells you how much you have to donate... that's why it's called a donation. But I would believe that most of these stars are donating. I'm not sure why this topic gets under my skin so much, but it does. sorry for not dropping it, but I just think public figures do MUCH worse things than donate time, talent, and money in the name of a cause that actually does raise awareness. And of course this will bring them media attention, but the possibility of it being JUST a PR stunt is low, imo.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2005 12:55:19 GMT -5
I just think that you're getting your points confused. There are two points here: you think the stars doing these types of concerts is a PR stunt... understandable and even very possible. But from your post, it seems you also think it's sad that the American people (and overseas, I suppose) may not give as much, or at all, without star power pushing them along to do so. I think that last point is much more sad, but a good enough reason to keep these concerts going, especially is there really is demand for them. Interesting point. I understand what you're saying and I think it's a good point....but my main problem with these things is that multi-millionaires are asking money from "regular" people, while being praised as people doing "good deeds" for just showing up at these things. True...but that's because I am not a multi-millionaire on TV benefiting from the TV exposure of a telethon/concert. These stars are benefiting from the exposure. So, imo, they should be required to give something back...meaning, make a large donation. Sadly, I would bet that most of them are not donating. That was one of the many controversies that later came out regarding the September 11 telethon. I think that's why people turned away from the tsunami telethon and why so many of these Katrina concerts/telethons are being done. jmo. Anyway, I've said my point(s) about this over and over and probably annoyed more than enough people by repeating the stuff. I guess it's best if we agree to disagree. I'm not going to change my views and I doubt that my ranting will change anyone else's. So, how about a cease fire on this topic? :)
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Post by firedancer on Sept 13, 2005 0:23:42 GMT -5
right on. :)
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