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Post by cause_for_celebration on Aug 2, 2014 20:53:38 GMT -5
This song is so bad
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Post by Kishi KCM on Aug 6, 2014 11:55:20 GMT -5
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Post by pnobelysk on Aug 6, 2014 20:09:37 GMT -5
Debuts at 99 on the hot 100 this week
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Post by surfy on Aug 6, 2014 20:20:43 GMT -5
FINALLY!!!!
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 7, 2014 5:49:01 GMT -5
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Post by getonthebus on Aug 7, 2014 9:29:04 GMT -5
While it's true of basically every quality song that is struggling on the chart right now, I just want to state that this would be Top 10 by now if it were by Katy Perry.
And that's everything wrong with CHR in 2014 in one sentence.
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Post by kanimal on Aug 7, 2014 9:49:21 GMT -5
While it's true of basically every quality song that is struggling on the chart right now, I just want to state that this would be Top 10 by now if it were by Katy Perry. And that's everything wrong with CHR in 2014 in one sentence. I definitely agree that this song would be performing better if released by someone with a brand name in the US. I wrote earlier that simply crediting producer Calvin Harris would have given this more juice at radio. But while I agree, to an extent, with the Katy Perry comment, I also think the foundation of that comparison is flawed. Katy Perry became Katy Perry by being disruptive, instantly establishing an identity and mastering a sound. The new artists that are being disruptive ARE surging up the pop charts, even today. Iggy Azalea did something fresh - and came across like a unique superstar on her track - and she's a monster now. Charli XCX is doing something different and has a unique persona - and she's becoming a radio monster as well. Disclosure and Sam Smith did something different (or just really, really good), and they became huge as well. John Legend has been around for a decade and had been irrelevant at pop for a while, then he released a damn good song and flew up the charts. Same for Pharrell. Meghan Trainor's "All About That Bass" is exploding, and it's because it's disruptive - the sound and lyrics instantly stick. Like "Fancy," Clean Bandit's "Rather Be" had the On the Verge boost, but it stuck around after because it was memorable and different. Nico and Vinz and MAGIC! sounded different - and scored. (I honestly find it ridiculous to complain about the state of CHR right now when Lady Gaga and Katy Perry are underperforming and a bunch of newbies are hitting #1) If you can envision anybody but Rita Ora successfully singing the song - and then being successful WITH it - then it's a sign that the release is generic and not disruptive. She shouldn't be singing songs that Katy Perry can sing; she should be singing songs only Rita Ora can sing - or at least songs that no major, established pop star can sing. Rita Ora is incredible looking and has a great voice - she has the tools to be a star. But neither she nor her music has a discernible identity at this point. Hell, even in her video for this song, she oscillates between a Sky Ferreira-ish supermodel look, a faux-Rihanna look and a "Jenny from the Block" look. She is basically begging you to treat her as a generic, pleasant radio voice, and as long as that's the case, she's not going to smash on these solo songs.
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Aug 7, 2014 13:56:37 GMT -5
It barely debuted.
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 7, 2014 15:44:24 GMT -5
While it's true of basically every quality song that is struggling on the chart right now, I just want to state that this would be Top 10 by now if it were by Katy Perry. And that's everything wrong with CHR in 2014 in one sentence. This statement, while kinda true...is incredibly incredibly uneducated and not thought out. If Katy had sung this and used it as a first single, her label probably wouldn't have let her just sit on her as when it was released. That's before anything else.
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Post by kanimal on Aug 7, 2014 15:55:48 GMT -5
While it's true of basically every quality song that is struggling on the chart right now, I just want to state that this would be Top 10 by now if it were by Katy Perry. And that's everything wrong with CHR in 2014 in one sentence. This statement, while kinda true...is incredibly incredibly uneducated and not thought out. If Katy had sung this and used it as a first single, her label probably wouldn't have let her just sit on her as when it was released. That's before anything else. True, but I actually think going overboard to associate Rita Ora with Black Widow is the better strategy in the long run. I Will Never Let You Down is not going to be a Top 5 pop song. "Black Widow" almost surely will be. Let's not forget that Charli XCX was credited on the very successful I Love It, but there was no real domestic interest in her follow-ups (and it's not like SuperLove isn't a great song). It was not until Fancy - for which she had the more distinct contribution and a visible presence in all the live performances - that she gained her own sense of stardom. If people recognize Rita Ora's voice on this big early fall hit, she'll be in position to score with a good follow-up.
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Post by trashynavy on Aug 7, 2014 17:36:43 GMT -5
Where is this girl? Instead of waiting for this be a hit, her label should release a song that will actually interest people. I feel like we've been waiting for her forever.
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Post by Live Your Life on Aug 7, 2014 18:28:51 GMT -5
I'm starting to hear this a lot on the Chicago top 40 stations. I guess part of the reason is because she's doing some exclusive concert here. But anyway, it's really grown on me a lot. The melody is an earworm.
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 7, 2014 18:34:28 GMT -5
Despite the lack of success for her solo material here thus far, I wouldn't be surprised to get a fairly big hit like Domino here over the next year.
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Post by Live Your Life on Aug 7, 2014 20:19:46 GMT -5
Despite the lack of success for her solo material here thus far, I wouldn't be surprised to get a fairly big hit like Domino here over the next year. Possibly, but she's been quoted as saying the sound of her new album is like a "white girl gone hood." If this song doesn't end up becoming a decent-sized hit, I could see them trying to break her at urban radio. Plus, it's been rumored that all of the songs she did with Calvin Harris will no longer appear on the album because of their breakup.
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Post by Glove Slap on Aug 7, 2014 20:36:44 GMT -5
I'm not really taking her word for it. She probably has no idea what the final product is exactly gonna be like, especially now if Calvin has pulled his songs. Plus how the hell is "white girl going hood" synonymous with Calvin Harris.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 9, 2014 5:56:11 GMT -5
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Post by Kishi KCM on Aug 9, 2014 8:05:40 GMT -5
I'm starting to hear this a lot on the Chicago top 40 stations. I guess part of the reason is because she's doing some exclusive concert here. But anyway, it's really grown on me a lot. The melody is an earworm. She's doing one here in Miami as well, my friend won tickets. I believe it's a listening party or intimate concert.
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 10, 2014 7:16:17 GMT -5
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Post by Az Paynter on Aug 10, 2014 8:38:36 GMT -5
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Aug 10, 2014 15:04:09 GMT -5
I honestly wonder what she did to him to make him act like that. It's not a secret she has a bad reputation. she's beeen replaced by Becky G.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 15:19:51 GMT -5
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Post by surfy on Aug 10, 2014 18:11:08 GMT -5
:'( Seriously Calvin. Stop being such a pussy and let her perform!!!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 18:21:41 GMT -5
Also, how come Calvin has the rights to prevent her from performing anyway? Did he write the song? He would make alot of money from this, so I have no clue why he's not allowing it. It's very messed up that he won't allow her to perform.
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Post by surfy on Aug 10, 2014 18:30:46 GMT -5
Also, how come Calvin has the rights to prevent her from performing anyway? Did he write the song? He would make alot of money from this, so I have no clue why he's not allowing it. It's very messed up that he won't allow her to perform. It's his song, but I agree with the last 2 sentences. Business wise - It's stupid. Personally - He thinks it's smart, it's still stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 18:31:23 GMT -5
Also, how come Calvin has the rights to prevent her from performing anyway? Did he write the song? He would make alot of money from this, so I have no clue why he's not allowing it. It's very messed up that he won't allow her to perform. It's his song, but I agree with the last 2 sentences. Business wise - It's stupid. Personally - He thinks it's smart, it's still stupid. lol, but so true.
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Post by kanimal on Aug 10, 2014 18:35:41 GMT -5
There is absolutely no way this is the full story. Although Calvin Harris quoting himself "You act so innocent now, but you lied so soon," seemingly in response to this story, suggests the part about him saying no probably IS accurate. It comes down to what triggered it, and when she actually knew she wasn't going to be able to perform it. But I also can't see Harris blatantly making himself come off like the bad guy here. Given Rita's reputation, and the stories about getting touchy-feely with Bieber and the studio and whatever, she appeared to be in the wrong for their breakup. So why not let that stick? Again, has to be more to this story.
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Post by H. on Aug 10, 2014 18:49:16 GMT -5
This is my least favorite song on pop radio right now. Followed by All About That Bass and Cool Kids.
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Post by Queen of Insomnia. on Aug 10, 2014 19:45:35 GMT -5
We know literally nothing what happened behind the scenes so I’ll try to not be so quick in making assumptions. But what Calvin’s doing is exactly how a deeply hurt person acts like. Something really went down there. Let just say if she did someting ugly to him, I would’t be surprised if he didn’t want to let her perform a song like IWNLYD live on TV that is probably a big lie to him right now. Also, how come Calvin has the rights to prevent her from performing anyway? Rita has only credits for co-writing.... While Calvin has for producing, writing, and mixing. So yeah it's basically HIS song. IMO, it's her label's fault. They didn't legally secure this song... uh... and yeah AND other songs on time. Maybe they were so late with this because they were together? They must have forgotten it's Rita.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 19:46:52 GMT -5
We know literally nothing what happened behind the scenes so I’ll try to not be so quick in making assumptions. But what Calvin’s doing is exactly how a deeply hurt person acts like. Something really went down there. Let just say if she did someting ugly to him, I would’t be surprised if he didn’t want to let her perform a song like IWNLYD live on TV that is probably a big lie to him right now. Also, how come Calvin has the rights to prevent her from performing anyway? Rita has only credits for co-writing.... While Calvin has for producing, writing, and mixing. So yeah it's basically HIS song. IMO, it's her label's fault. They didn't ligally secure this song... uh... and yeah AND other songs on time. Maybe they were so late with this because they were together? They must have forgotten it's Rita. oh ok.
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Post by allow that on Aug 10, 2014 23:01:43 GMT -5
This topic feels like MTV circa 2006. Like damn.
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