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Post by onefrayedrepublic on May 22, 2014 21:33:58 GMT -5
Any chance this will get a remix with Flo Rida or some other rent-a-rapper? DTTAN with Pitbull is quickly shaping up to be one of my top jams of 14, though I don't care much for the original.
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Post by Tylerjamesnerd on May 22, 2014 22:12:18 GMT -5
Any chance this will get a remix with Flo Rida or some other rent-a-rapper? DTTAN with Pitbull is quickly shaping up to be one of my top jams of 14, though I don't care much for the original. haha i really hope not! im glad someone likes his music though.... i honestly wouldnt be suprized..
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Post by kanimal on May 24, 2014 16:38:54 GMT -5
Why do labels release the dumbest singles. Based on "Drink to That All Night" and "Donkey", people will assume his album is fulled with songs like that, but that is far from the truth. "Space", "Buzz Back Girl", "I Can't Give in Anymore", "Come On, Come On", "Lucky #7", "Day Drinkin'", "The Real Thing", "Refill" and even "Beach Baby" are all modern country songs that do not sound or have any "bro" references like the 2 singles. "We Know How to Rock" and "She's Fine" are maybe the two exceptions, but "She's Fine" has a nice groove to it. I agree this song is terrible and not reflective of who he has historically been as an artist, but I don't know how we can criticize the label here. Drink to that All Night hit #1 on Country Airplay and #4 on that "other" chart. Smash hit. And it actually has a reasonable chance of making a dent at pop courtesy the Pitbull remix. Donkey had a solid week of adds, so it very well could be another hit. Giving the market what it wants is good business - not bad business.
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Post by sabre14 on May 26, 2014 15:43:10 GMT -5
Was riding passenger today in someone's else's car and listening to Bret Alan of WYRK who I like to call a casual friend. "Donkey" came on as the last song played during the 11:25 to 11:40 segment this morning. When it was finished, Bret came on and said I quote "There's the latest from Jerrod Niemann... Oh boy, don't know what to say about that". He has stated before to me how much he disliked "Drink To That All Night" and I said to him, you'd better get ready for the next single. I guess he found out just how bad that "next single" was.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 27, 2014 8:16:54 GMT -5
Was riding passenger today in someone's else's car and listening to Bret Alan of WYRK who I like to call a casual friend. "Donkey" came on as the last song played during the 11:25 to 11:40 segment this morning. When it was finished, Bret came on and said I quote "There's the latest from Jerrod Niemann... Oh boy, don't know what to say about that". He has stated before to me how much he disliked "Drink To That All Night" and I said to him, you'd better get ready for the next single. I guess he found out just how bad that "next single" was. Brett Alan gets to announce that and gets paid to do so. No thanks, I will keep my job and not trade with his.
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Post by onebuffalo on May 28, 2014 11:05:26 GMT -5
Unbelievable chart move from #60 to #47. It's time to cut off the legs of the Donkey!
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Post by rsmatto on May 28, 2014 11:22:16 GMT -5
Unbelievable chart move from #60 to #47. It's time to cut off the legs of the Donkey! You're surprised? Even the amount of discussion here tells me this is going to be a huge hit. Artists want reaction, good or bad. Sure, they prefer good responses, but any reaction is usually desired. Nobody wants something that's "meh".
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Post by onebuffalo on May 28, 2014 11:24:31 GMT -5
Unbelievable chart move from #60 to #47. It's time to cut off the legs of the Donkey! You're surprised? Even the amount of discussion here tells me this is going to be a huge hit. Artists want reaction, good or bad. Sure, they prefer good responses, but any reaction is usually desired. Nobody wants something that's "meh". No. Bad news=good news. Sometimes.
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Post by josephmorgan on May 31, 2014 15:24:00 GMT -5
I don't know if this is troubling news, but if you listen to this week's Crook & Chase Countdown, this song beat "Bartender" by Lady A in something they call the Facebook face-off. Now, it's up against "Cold One" by Eric Church.
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Post by 14887fan on May 31, 2014 18:21:21 GMT -5
If I ever hear this song on my car radio, I'll swerve into the median.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 5, 2014 18:09:56 GMT -5
Donkey has infested the mongrel chart at #45.
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jun 8, 2014 11:34:26 GMT -5
This has gotta be doomed for a fast flameout. Some people like even "Ready Set Roll", but I have yet to find a SINGLE fan of this.
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Post by carriekins on Jun 8, 2014 11:44:00 GMT -5
This has gotta be doomed for a fast flameout. Some people like even "Ready Set Roll", but I have yet to find a SINGLE fan of this. Read SiriusXM The Highway's Facebook page. I'm sure you'll find plenty of people who like this song there.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 8, 2014 13:45:02 GMT -5
For what it's worth, on WYCD in Detroit's new music spoghtlight, 82% of voters liked "Donkey" while 18 % said no thanks. Plus it's usually in the top 20 or so on The Highway's top 45 weekly countdown. Believe it or not many enjoy this ridiculous tune. :(
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Post by Cody Wants Out... on Jun 8, 2014 15:06:25 GMT -5
^But this ain't even a tune, though. It's just a joke, like almost everything else is treated as these days unfortunately. Oh, and 14887fan, how about this: if this thingamabob becomes a top 20 airplay hit, I'll move to another country without looking back.
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Post by bluedog6 on Jun 8, 2014 19:32:24 GMT -5
I could imagine singing to this song, back in the day, while dancing in the frat house basement, smelling of cheap beer and feeling the buzz of alcohol in my head. I'm sure I sang and danced to many songs such as this. There was a time and place for that and it was fun. Or at least I remember it as being fun.
In my currently sober moments (which FAR out number my drunk ones these days), this song is stupid. If someone wants to sing and dance to this song while in a drunken haze, I'll understand. Just don't let this song clog up the daytime country music airwaves when rational minds prevail. Count me as one who would not mind in the least if it crashed and burned. (And I actually laughed and sang along to "Red Solo Cup". This one just makes me gag.)
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Post by McCreerian on Jun 8, 2014 20:38:58 GMT -5
Wow 82% like this song in a poll? That just proves that Country radio has accomplished it's goal buy "dumbing" down newer listeners into thinking this is real Country music that everyone should like. Not all Country radio has done this but the stations that report to the Monitored charts are the ring leaders. These stations have all but eliminated the story telling and instrumentation that made Country what it is. They have taught the new listeners of today that songs like "Donkey" are the cool ones and even songs as recent as "Whiskey Lullaby" are Grandpa's music. This is why this genre needs to split and the sooner the better. Those who have been taught that this is Country music vs the longer listening fans who know what makes up real Country music. And trust me, this song, and Jerrod's last couple songs in general, sure as hell isn't it!
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Post by dragontattoo on Jun 8, 2014 22:03:10 GMT -5
For what it's worth, on WYCD in Detroit's new music spoghtlight, 82% of voters liked "Donkey" while 18 % said no thanks. Plus it's usually in the top 20 or so on The Highway's top 45 weekly countdown. Believe it or not many enjoy this ridiculous tune. :( Polls like this are often meaningless. People who like a song are quick to vote - and people who don't like a song usually just ignore it.
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Post by killintime on Jun 8, 2014 22:08:08 GMT -5
^But this ain't even a tune, though. It's just a joke, like almost everything else is treated as these days unfortunately. Oh, and 14887fan, how about this: if this thingamabob becomes a top 20 airplay hit, I'll move to another country without looking back. I believe it. Even though many of us rednecks can easily identify this song stinks, the weaker-minded can't help themselves and just eat it up. They we're brainwashed into bro country when FGL came on the scene. Thanks country radio.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 8, 2014 22:17:14 GMT -5
For what it's worth, on WYCD in Detroit's new music spoghtlight, 82% of voters liked "Donkey" while 18 % said no thanks. Plus it's usually in the top 20 or so on The Highway's top 45 weekly countdown. Believe it or not many enjoy this ridiculous tune. :( Polls like this are often meaningless. People who like a song are quick to vote - and people who don't like a song usually just ignore it. You might be right, but many more people like this song then people think. I have friends who absolutely love all of the songs that are deemed trash (including myself) like "Donkey". Granted, they are around my age bracket of 20-25, but those listeners are the future of country radio listeners, and people who are younger than that will grow up listening to today's country radio and immediately enjoy it because it's all they know. I actually didn't plan on typing that but I guess it just came to me. I still think this song is too polarizing for a high peak but just like "Red Solo Cup" there are a good number of people who enjoy this unfortunately.
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Post by Zazie on Jun 9, 2014 21:26:16 GMT -5
I don't like Donkey, and there have been tons of other songs over the last few decades I have not liked. However, I see nothing to be gained by insulting people whose only "crime" is liking something I don't like. Where did the idea of "brainwashing" come from?
People are free to disagree with me. If it happens that I think my taste is better than theirs, well, that's just my opinion. I suspect most of the people who like bro country like it because... they like it. Not because the black helicopters overcame their resistance and forced them to change their minds.
No, wait, I love Donkey and I always have.
No, wait. I was forced to say that.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2014 21:37:23 GMT -5
Agreed with Zazie. I do think that what the people at corporate radio like and decide to play the most influences fans/consumers and what they buy, but brainwashing? No, I don't think there's anything like that, although I agree that the lyrics in many of today's songs are sub-par compared with many of the big hits of the past 10-20 years (and further back as well, although I know less about songs from before my time). Anyway...a chart-related comment: "Donkey" isn't climbing as fast as I thought it would. It's not doing terrible by any means--#44 after only 4 weeks is nothing to sneeze at--and, to no surprise, its sales are well ahead of the airplay. But I also see that 35% of those surveyed for Callout America dislike this song. We've had some high dislikes lately, but that's the highest I've seen yet. Will PD's pay attention, or will they be swayed by potential digital success? Stay tuned.
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Post by joey2002 on Jun 10, 2014 2:49:31 GMT -5
#44 after only 4 weeks is nothing to sneeze at
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 10, 2014 7:45:50 GMT -5
I don't think there is any "brainwashing" behind the latest trend that has ushered in all the Bro-Country act's. But I do believe there has been a very calculated gamble to throw away their core audience , and replace it with youth audience that's been displaced from other genres. I don't believe for a second your average Alan Jackson , Brad Paisley or even Keith Urban fan from five to ten years ago is rapping along with Florida Georgia Line or singing along with the chorus of this crude steaming pile of Donkey doo. Radio & label conglomerates have intentionally sacrificed the audience that built country into the biggest genre of music in America to chase a trend that leaves a very fickle demo graph calling the shots. This will not end well. And I admit I selfishly hope it doesn't.
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Post by matty005 on Jun 10, 2014 9:33:12 GMT -5
I don't think there is any "brainwashing" behind the latest trend that has ushered in all the Bro-Country act's. But I do believe there has been a very calculated gamble to throw away their core audience , and replace it with youth audience that's been displaced from other genres. I don't believe for a second your average Alan Jackson , Brad Paisley or even Keith Urban fan from five to ten years ago is rapping along with Florida Georgia Line or singing along with the chorus of this crude steaming pile of Donkey doo. Radio & label conglomerates have intentionally sacrificed the audience that built country into the biggest genre of music in America to chase a trend that leaves a very fickle demo graph calling the shots. This will not end well. And I admit I selfishly hope it doesn't. I agree with you, but I am the exception then. I am a HUGE AJ fan and love FGL and I in fact like this song for what it is. With that said, I do agree with you on your point. But I think that is how the business works. People aren't buying Alan's CDs as much any more... they're in it to make money and they want to appeal to an audience that is most likely shell out money to buy the CDs.
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 10, 2014 9:47:34 GMT -5
True , they arent buying his records, but a vast majority arent buying his records cause he isn't getting his new records played on the radio anymore. I would venture to guess a big portion of his fanbase would be more then willing to shell out cash if they were aware when Alan had a product out to purchase. Alans last project that radio fully supported , 2008's "Good Time" went platnum.
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Post by rsmatto on Jun 10, 2014 10:05:29 GMT -5
True , they arent buying his records, but a vast majority arent buying his records cause he isn't getting his new records played on the radio anymore. I would venture to guess a big portion of his fanbase would be more then willing to shell out cash if they were aware when Alan had a product out to purchase. Alans last project that radio fully supported , 2008's "Good Time" went platnum. He's sold 200k for each of his past two records and Alan WILL have a new CD next year.
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Post by 43dudleyvillas on Jun 10, 2014 10:19:17 GMT -5
I agree with you, but I am the exception then. I am a HUGE AJ fan and love FGL and I in fact like this song for what it is. With that said, I do agree with you on your point. But I think that is how the business works. People aren't buying Alan's CDs as much any more... they're in it to make money and they want to appeal to an audience that is most likely shell out money to buy the CDs. First week sales of Alan Jackson's The Bluegrass Album, released 24 September 2013: 22,000 (via Billboard) First week sales of Jerrod Niemann's High Noon, released 25 March 2014: 14,000 (via Roughstock) Total sales of Alan Jackson's The Bluegrass Album two months after release (the week ending 24 November 2013): 82,000 (via Billboard) Total sales of Jerrod Niemann's High Noon two months after release (the week ending 25 May 2014): 45,000 (via Roughstock) [I'm aware of the track sales differential, which should be chalked up to the airplay differential between the two. But matty005 mentioned CD sales, so I thought the most recent numbers were instructive. Moreover, considering the amount of money that goes into radio single promotion, I have to wonder if the return on the investment in Jerrod Niemann's airplay is anywhere near the return on the investment in Alan Jackson's current album promotion.]
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Post by Uncle Lumpy on Jun 10, 2014 10:24:45 GMT -5
True , they arent buying his records, but a vast majority arent buying his records cause he isn't getting his new records played on the radio anymore. I would venture to guess a big portion of his fanbase would be more then willing to shell out cash if they were aware when Alan had a product out to purchase. Alans last project that radio fully supported , 2008's "Good Time" went platnum. He's sold 200k for each of his past two records and Alan WILL have a new CD next year. Yeah that was my point. Those arent shabby numbers considering the five singles released to support those albums all had low peaks. "It's Just That Way" #16 , "Hard Hat and a Hammer" #17 , "Long Way to Go" #24 , "So You Don't Have to Love Me Anymore" #25 (this one STILL pisses me off considering the great callout scores this song received) & "You Go Your Way" #41. It may come off as what came first the chicken or the egg argument but I just wanted to point out that the argument that radio doesn't play certain artist's cause they don't sell records doesn't always hold water under scrutiny. The sad part is if they started playing Alan again , I'm not sure it would help much now as I suspect a big portion of that fan base has probably fled due to being force fed acts that are so radically un-country. Sorry for de-railing this fine thread....
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 10, 2014 10:25:02 GMT -5
I agree with you, but I am the exception then. I am a HUGE AJ fan and love FGL and I in fact like this song for what it is. With that said, I do agree with you on your point. But I think that is how the business works. People aren't buying Alan's CDs as much any more... they're in it to make money and they want to appeal to an audience that is most likely shell out money to buy the CDs. First week sales of Alan Jackson's The Bluegrass Album, released 24 September 2013: 22,000 (via Billboard) First week sales of Jerrod Niemann's High Noon, released 25 March 2014: 14,000 (via Roughstock) Total sales of Alan Jackson's The Bluegrass Album two months after release (the week ending 24 November 2013): 82,000 (via Billboard) Total sales of Jerrod Niemann's High Noon two months after release (the week ending 25 May 2014): 45,000 (via Roughstock) [I'm aware of the track sales differential, which should be chalked up to the airplay differential between the two. But matty005 mentioned CD sales, so I thought the most recent numbers were instructive. Moreover, considering the amount of money that goes into radio single promotion, I have to wonder if the return on the investment in Jerrod Niemann's airplay is anywhere near the return on the investment in Alan Jackson's current album promotion.] Do you have total sales for The Bluegrass Album? Thanks!
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