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Post by vamp111 on Jun 15, 2014 22:51:17 GMT -5
It has a negative week to week bullet so hopefully it will stay that way.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 15, 2014 23:13:49 GMT -5
"Donkey" is struggling? YAAAASSS, there's hope. Maybe radio gets it right every once in awhile yet.
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Post by tim on Jun 15, 2014 23:20:18 GMT -5
I don't really have much to add to Jerrod's comments or this song other than I was a little taken aback by him comparing his new direction of music to that of Willie, Waylon, Cash, and Jones (seriously, he mentioned all of them?!?). And one would actually have to make it through almost a minute of this song before the George Jones reference, and based on my own selective survey with friends who like the old school Jones music HATE this song and "bro-country" in general. The only friend of mine that actually will listen to "bro-country" is a frat party boy himself, so...
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 15, 2014 23:46:22 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so confident. This one has horrible call-out scores and, as evidenced by 43dudleyvillas' post, there are a lot of radio folks who aren't too enthused about this one. It is really, really struggling and hasn't really gained any significant audience over the last 2-3 weeks. No stations have put this song in medium to heavy rotation yet either, which for someone who has had a fair share of hits under his belt like Jerrod is worrisome (not for me of course). Many songs aren't in medium to heavy rotation in the 40's, but Jerrod is coming off a huge #1 single. Looking at the numbers, the highest spin total is Washington D.C at 26 spins. In fact many stations are keeping this either at the same totals from the past two weeks, or even taking some spins away. Couple that with the negative call-out scores, along with this being a "different" kind of song to put it nicely, then that certainly tells me that PD's are timid about giving "Donkey" some air time. It should be interesting to see how things turn out over the next two or three weeks, to gain a truer look on how "Donkey" will do in the long run, but it's not looking good thus far for Arista's gamble.
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Post by McCreerian on Jun 16, 2014 8:50:49 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so confident. This one has horrible call-out scores and, as evidenced by 43dudleyvillas' post, there are a lot of radio folks who aren't too enthused about this one. It is really, really struggling and hasn't really gained any significant audience over the last 2-3 weeks. No stations have put this song in medium to heavy rotation yet either, which for someone who has had a fair share of hits under his belt like Jerrod is worrisome (not for me of course). Many songs aren't in medium to heavy rotation in the 40's, but Jerrod is coming off a huge #1 single. Looking at the numbers, the highest spin total is Washington D.C at 26 spins. In fact many stations are keeping this either at the same totals from the past two weeks, or even taking some spins away. Couple that with the negative call-out scores, along with this being a "different" kind of song to put it nicely, then that certainly tells me that PD's are timid about giving "Donkey" some air time. It should be interesting to see how things turn out over the next two or three weeks, to gain a truer look on how "Donkey" will do in the long run, but it's not looking good thus far for Arista's gamble. Washington D.C. the top spinner for "Donkey." How appropriate.
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Post by dajross6 on Jun 18, 2014 23:07:17 GMT -5
I haven't seen much talk anywhere on the Country forum about the YouTube change coming, but I'm actually hoping that not having free music on the site any longer will help to block these types of songs to gain popularity as easily. I know a large amount of younger people only know YouTube for free music, and I think the move could actually push more back to radio. Of course this all depends on the rollout of the paid service, but it's pretty big news.
Of course it affects those that enjoy songs that rarely make it to YouTube much less.
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Post by dragontattoo on Jun 18, 2014 23:58:42 GMT -5
As I understand it YouTube changes will only effect indie labels who don't succumb to the pressure to take less money than the majors. So indie artists will have their videos pulled by YouTube - but major label artists will still have their videos on YouTube (for free for the consumer) and get play on YouTube's new streaming service. So it shouldn't effect songs like Donkey - unless they are on an indie label.
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Post by bjer127 on Jun 19, 2014 13:55:07 GMT -5
Could it be this song is going away? I know it's had some negative bullets on MB, and on Itunes, it has slipped every day a few spots on the downloads, down to #61 on country chart. It never really got past #42, which leads me to believe the "fans" weren't really buying into it like everyone said. Look at Kacey Musgraves, "The Trailer Song" just got released yesterday and sits at #22 on Itunes. And it hasn't gotten the front page treatment like it will surely next week on their "New and Noteworthy" column. Can someone confirm this is indeed ending it's run as a single? I can't access the daily charts, I just check on the Country Aircheck weekly updates
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 19, 2014 14:06:05 GMT -5
Could it be this song is going away? I know it's had some negative bullets on MB, and on Itunes, it has slipped every day a few spots on the downloads, down to #61 on country chart. It never really got past #42, which leads me to believe the "fans" weren't really buying into it like everyone said. Look at Kacey Musgraves, "The Trailer Song" just got released yesterday and sits at #22 on Itunes. And it hasn't gotten the front page treatment like it will surely next week on their "New and Noteworthy" column. Can someone confirm this is indeed ending it's run as a single? I can't access the daily charts, I just check on the Country Aircheck weekly updates No it's not ending it's run I think. This could very well still be a flame out still but I think if that's going to happen it will take a few more weeks at least. It's bullet is back up to a 33 on MB today after some shaky updates the past few days. Arista is going to fight for airplay with Jerrod and this song whether we want them to or not. The good news is that overall it's not looking promising for "Donkey" to become a big hit or even a sizable hit, but there's still a ways to go here.
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Post by McCreerian on Jun 19, 2014 15:13:52 GMT -5
At least this this Donkey plays with a fiddle! This is traditional compared to Jerrod's trash!
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 19, 2014 18:35:28 GMT -5
Jerrod Niemann said Donkey was pitched to Luke Bryan and Josh Thompson on Taste of Country. Well, two out of three artists have good taste!
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 19, 2014 19:33:56 GMT -5
Jerrod Niemann said Donkey was pitched to Luke Bryan and Josh Thompson on Taste of Country. Well, two out of three artists have good taste!Sometimes. ;)
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Post by tim on Jun 19, 2014 23:08:26 GMT -5
Officially a month since this went up for adds and I think it's DOA. It had a debut of 2.7 in its first week and so far had a high of 3.175. As of tonight it's sitting at it's second lowest audience of 2.9.
This is one song I'm actively rooting to see fail, and fail hard. This was a joke of a song for Jerrod to release to radio, and one that I think has the potential to negatively impact his career in the eyes of the country music industry. His comments did no further justice for himself. He might think fans like myself need to expand my horizons or whatever, but I'll pass. Who would've thought this is the same artist that gave us the great "What Do You Want" and "Lover, Lover."
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 20, 2014 1:56:18 GMT -5
Good thing Luke Bryan passed on this or it may not be struggling to take off the way it has. He probably would've rode "Donkey" straight to the Top 5, at least.
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Post by bluedog6 on Jun 21, 2014 12:37:33 GMT -5
This has moved into the 5:40am slot on my local country station. That means this is the song that is playing when my clock radio turns on in the morning. I've heard it 2 of the last 3 mornings. That means that there is no lolly-gagging around in bed. Turn the radio off and out of bed in flash. Well at least I'm not rushed getting ready for work in the morning.
BTW, "Kick It in the Sticks" was also relegated to this time slot and I also heard this song a lot as I would wake up in the morning. I guess my country station wants to make sure listeners don't lie around in bed and listen to the radio every morning. :) :)
Wish they would move this to the 3am slot. I could live with that.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 21, 2014 13:24:21 GMT -5
This has moved into the 5:40am slot on my local country station. That means this is the song that is playing when my clock radio turns on in the morning. I've heard it 2 of the last 3 mornings. That means that there is no lolly-gagging around in bed. Turn the radio off and out of bed in flash. Well at least I'm not rushed getting ready for work in the morning. BTW, "Kick It in the Sticks" was also relegated to this time slot and I also heard this song a lot as I would wake up in the morning. I guess my country station wants to make sure listeners don't lie around in bed and listen to the radio every morning. :) :) Wish they would move this to the 3am slot. I could live with that. That wouldn't be fair to the hard working third shifters. ;)
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Post by phil1996 on Jun 21, 2014 22:55:18 GMT -5
Yes, they are doing a video for this song. Saw him tweet it a few days ago.
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Post by rjz on Jun 22, 2014 13:10:45 GMT -5
Yes, they are doing a video for this song. Saw him tweet it a few days ago. Well this should be interesting. After his last psychedelic video for a straightforward (albeit mindless party one) song I can't wait to see what "Donkey" will bring to a video :O
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Post by McCreerian on Jun 23, 2014 15:41:38 GMT -5
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Post by Ten Pound Hammer on Jun 23, 2014 22:45:02 GMT -5
Ha, I called it. I knew this would flame out laughably fast. I think it might be a bit too soon yet to say that bro-country is dying, but this song's utter failure is at least a promising sign.
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 23, 2014 22:49:28 GMT -5
I don't even consider this song bro-country. It's too unbelievably stupid to be anything else but a parody song. I wonder how Arista will treat this song slightly losing audience and spins over the past one to two weeks. Will they continue to fight for airplay and revive this song's chart climb or wait this out and let nature take it's course to see if this will fail miserably. The fact that they are shooting the video for this makes me worrisome that they still have faith that this will recover to at least a respectable peak. This week should help us decide if "Donkey" will be on it's way to the glue factory (I know it's horses, but close enough).
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Post by sabre14 on Jun 24, 2014 13:24:21 GMT -5
Sorry for a double post, but "Donkey's" bullet today is a -60. A more important number to me is the fact that he got 0 adds this past week. With the past two weeks having been without a bullet, I suspect that this just might have flamed out. Arista could still try and recover this song before weeks end, but without getting more stations on board at a consistent basis, I think that "Donkey" is approaching being sent recurrent on MB if this doesn't recover. Usually these kind of flame outs were more frequent 8-10 years ago on the charts, as long standing chart runs have become the norm now and days and stations like to fight to the bitter end. This is in fact proving to be too polarizing for country radio.
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Post by onebuffalo on Jun 24, 2014 14:33:34 GMT -5
I don't even consider this song bro-country. It's too unbelievably stupid to be anything else but a parody song. I wonder how Arista will treat this song slightly losing audience and spins over the past one to two weeks. Will they continue to fight for airplay and revive this song's chart climb or wait this out and let nature take it's course to see if this will fail miserably. The fact that they are shooting the video for this makes me worrisome that they still have faith that this will recover to at least a respectable peak. This week should help us decide if "Donkey" will be on it's way to the glue factory (I know it's horses, but close enough). That's an insult to bro country!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2014 15:51:49 GMT -5
It'll go recurrent on the next Billboard chart as well if it can't re-bullet, and as of now it's not off to a good start to the week...down 32 spins and 120k in today's MB update.
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Post by McCreerian on Jun 24, 2014 15:54:26 GMT -5
I guess Country radio said "kiss my ass" Jerrod's "Donkey"! First positive sign of competence I've seen on the chart all year!
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Post by Zazie on Jun 24, 2014 21:33:28 GMT -5
Ya'll none of you get it. 8 pages of hyperinflated posts condemning this song to the worst circle of hell, all used to attack a song (perhaps a song making fun of itself) that's going recurrent having peaked at 43 on Billboard. Where was the big threat to your way of life?
Sure, I don't enjoy the song either, but it's way too easy a target. Meanwhile Florida Georgia Line, Luke Bryan, and about 20 other prominent artists have hit after hit that contribute to the coarsening of country radio, and all you can do is come over to this thread, spend a few minutes congratulating yourselves for having excellent taste, and offer up a few choice phrases.
You are to be congratulated for doing a superb job of locking the barn door after... oh, never mind. You have saved country music from a #43 donkey. I hope it comes back and re-enters the chart just for its effect on posters' blood pressure.
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Post by tim on Jun 24, 2014 22:03:23 GMT -5
^This is just a quick reply as I don't quite have time to formulate my exact thoughts, but as an avid lurker I've always liked your posts. However, I'm going to add another hyperinflated post and just share my two cents...I found your comment(s) ill-considered. I get the point you are trying to make, but I thought the point of this board was for discussion? This song obviously ignited a fire and, so what? There's been a plethora of discussion around FGL and Luke on other threads. For an artist who gave us some hope not just a couple of albums ago this song and his previous single release obviously surprised some. This isn't directed personally (and again I enjoy your thoughts/posts), I'm just saying I'm not here to be scolded or lectured about having an open discussion.
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Post by .indulgecountry on Jun 25, 2014 1:39:48 GMT -5
Ya'll none of you get it. 8 pages of hyperinflated posts condemning this song to the worst circle of hell, all used to attack a song (perhaps a song making fun of itself) that's going recurrent having peaked at 43 on Billboard. Where was the big threat to your way of life? Sure, I don't enjoy the song either, but it's way too easy a target. Meanwhile Florida Georgia Line, Luke Bryan, and about 20 other prominent artists have hit after hit that contribute to the coarsening of country radio, and all you can do is come over to this thread, spend a few minutes congratulating yourselves for having excellent taste, and offer up a few choice phrases. You are to be congratulated for doing a superb job of locking the barn door after... oh, never mind. You have saved country music from a #43 donkey. I hope it comes back and re-enters the chart just for its effect on posters' blood pressure. You say this as if you knew all along there was no threat that "Donkey" would be a hit. Given what has been popular on the airwaves as of late, I don't see why there's anything wrong with worrying over this one's chances since it could've very well gone the other way (as those other artist's you name-checked in your post). Furthermore, those same artists receive just as much flack from Pulse posters; it's not as if everyone here has bypassed threads like that of "That's My Kind of Night" or "This How We Roll" just to condemn this particular song. Maybe some posters have flexed their use of hyperbole for humor and to further express their discontent with the state of the genre in here, but it doesn't seem unwarranted at all. It would be to the detriment of discussion to make a song off-limits just because it's an "easy target" so to speak.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2014 3:05:30 GMT -5
Given what has been popular on the airwaves as of late, I don't see why there's anything wrong with worrying over this one's chances since it could've very well gone the other way (as those other artist's you name-checked in your post). I think this hits the mark for me. Some of the songs that country radio has turned into super hits over the last few years have been, like Zazie said, ones that have coarsened up the genre, but like .indulgecountry says here, there was legitimate concern that radio would actually embrace such a song as "Donkey". There was no way for any of us to know beforehand how "Donkey" would do at radio, and I for one am quite shocked if it has indeed peaked already, mostly because my faith in country radio has dwindled from what it was years ago. In other words, I was worried that "Donkey" would add on to the long list of hit songs that have given me frustration with the direction that country radio is heading in. I think "Donkey" was just the boiling point for so many, or the straw that broke the camel's back. And I can hardly blame anyone for feeling that way. I personally don't think "Donkey" is any worse than many bro-country songs that have become big hits, so I see where your frustrations are coming from, Zazie. I certainly don't think Jerrod Niemann is "the devil" for releasing this. And I agree that the thread has been somewhat unnecessarily long for a song that has barely done anything on the charts and doesn't look likely to do so--so in that regard yes, I think it's been too easy of a target for others to vent their frustrations about the current state of country radio. For me a song like "Get Me Some Of That" is much more dangerous because it actually was a hit and it actually does take itself seriously. It's difficult for me, however, to defend "Donkey" at the expense of other songs I didn't like, so I think I'll just leave it at that.
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Post by Zazie on Jun 25, 2014 8:55:14 GMT -5
I have no desire to make this a personal fight; it's just a difference of opinion. And I thank JHomes for recognizing my argument even while (a) disagreeing with it and (b) not wanting to defend a bad song.
Having said that, though, I want to add one more point of rebuttal: READ THE THREAD. I've been defending Donkey against exaggerated, overblown attacks since page 1 or 2 in the thread, when I too couldn't tell how big a hit it would be. My recent post was an attempt to show that the song is still drawing exaggerated, overblown attacks now that it has become clear that it will fail. (Unless country radio is reading this thread, in which case they'll start spinning the song just to spite me.)
Really, the ladies think it's cool that he kicks it with a mule? Really, there's a seductive appeal in there being a six-pack in the stall? Really, this is a song that fits right in with This Is How We Roll or Cruise?
I'm starting to feel repetitive so I'll leave it alone now, but I'll say the one thing I didn't finish my previous post with, though I intended to when I started it: this sub-genre of bro country is never going to go away until people start making fun of it. The first important step in its inevitable decline into just a bad memory is humor. All the boiling over in the world is less effective than Donkey at pointing out the absurdity of it all. Too bad it can't get another 10 weeks on the chart, safely down in the 30's and posing no threat to the higher reaches, but at least forcing the countdown shows to play it just often enough. Just slide that fine little single over here....
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